Daily Table Tennis Chit Chat

[ttmonster]

So this the wisdom I received from a highly rated coach ,

when you are inside the table , you should be using your wrist
when you are playing close the table, you should be using your forearm
when you are going back from the table , you should start engaging your upper arm the more you move away ...

anyways, its not always easy to practice and it also depends on the technique // rubber that you are using , but that is what I keep telling myself when I start swinging big , my point is shoulder pain helps you to figure out ways to engage your forearm and core ... which will in turn help you to shorten your technique ...

Your grip comment coupled with ttmonster's grip comment ... hmmm... when i'm free late tonight, will have to check out my grip.

Thank you again Sir!

 

[Archosaurus]

I hurt my upper arm /shoulder region somewhere around the bicep/delt area before Christmas by swinging incorrectly.

The lifting of the elbow, and in my case moving the forearm weirdly from the elbow joint and twisting/stressing my upper arm somehow during the swing by rotating my forearm towards the outside of my swing on the backswing, is probably what caused it. At least, swinging like that caused great pain with the injury.

I adapted to a form that has the elbow a little bit farther from my body to the side, and static, swinging mostly from the forearm. This kind of form felt too short and wrong before the injury, but during the injury I much preferred it to the alternative.

I think it's also more straight ie: there's a straight lever motion, and not some kind of strange twisting motion to get the arm in place during the backswing.

Rotating properly from the core is still the real challenge, but maybe this is better for my arm.

 

[SchemeSC]

I think anyone having shoulder problems as a result of FH looping could use some work in one of those swivel chairs. Lots of people talk about "shoulder rotation", but I only think about rotating the hips/waist/core (whatever you wanna call it). I've never thought about shoulder rotation in a FH loop in my entire life.

 

[Archosaurus]

@SchemeSC

What do you mean with "work in one of those swivel chairs"?

 

[Shuki]

@SchemeSC

What do you mean with "work in one of those swivel chairs"?

chair that turns

 

[Yecats Encerwal]

I remove the glue everytime, 'cause i also was getting those bumps. So i chose to use latex based glues that are easier removable.
By accident i found out that pouring a few drops of oil on the glued sponge helps me a lot to easier get rid of any kind of old glue.

Thanks Suga!

 

[JeffM]

I don't have anything TT related to contribute to the thread, except going to work out later as I got to finish work early today.

I can't express how happy I am that this thread is getting back on track!

@OSP

I will be going back to uni in Perth in a month's time

 

[Yecats Encerwal]

Hey Jeff,

I am happy it is back on track too.

I would like to take this opportunity to apologise to everyone for my participation in the debate, It definitely shouldn't have gotten as out-of-hand as it did, so sorry everyone.

Let's move forward and learn from this

PS: I really liked your Best of 2016 video Jeff, some great points in there!

 

[Shuki]

I would like to take this opportunity to apologise to everyone for my participation in the debate

Aha! You don't apologize in a debate! So it really was an argument!


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[Yecats Encerwal]

Shuki, The apology is more for the fact that it got a bit out of hand haha

The way I have worded it is not great

 

[Boogar]

Aha! You don't apologize in a debate! So it really was an argument!


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Please Staaaahp

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

As the one who got this thread back on track ... i will accept gratitude in the form of a 9 points handicap when we play a match

 

[NextLevel]

I think anyone having shoulder problems as a result of FH looping could use some work in one of those swivel chairs. Lots of people talk about "shoulder rotation", but I only think about rotating the hips/waist/core (whatever you wanna call it). I've never thought about shoulder rotation in a FH loop in my entire life.

True, but the best measure of the degree of rotation of the core is the degree of turn in the shoulders. Try it out if you are still a skeptic.

 

[NextLevel]

As the one who got this thread back on track ... i will accept gratitude in the form of a 9 points handicap when we play a match

I object to this - I think you understate my role in ignoring certain assassinations of my character..... that said, I will give you nine points. Your problem is that you will also give me 9 so we are even.

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

I object to this - I think you understate my role in ignoring certain assassinations of my character..... that said, I will give you nine points. Your problem is that you will also give me 9 so we are even.

LOLOL

I see you have used the JeffM Defense, which I will counter with "but, but, but, my shoulder hurts"

 

[JeffM]

LOLOL. I see I have invented a defense.

Tmr I am going to play my friend who is the lefty.
I am hoping that tomorrow my feel of the ball will be better than last time, and that I can actually loop some balls and not miss them completely (like last time, very disappointing and frustrating).
I also changed our playing venue, as I didn't like how the ball doesn't bounce much on the table last time... but tmr I will be playing in a big room separated by barriers. Will try to film unless it is not allowed..

@ Yecats: Thanks for your compliment on my video! I am sure if you make one in the future, it will be very amazing as well! (probably alot better than mine )

 

[Boogar]

Woha watch this from 7:10 on wards. Incredible feeling for the ball from waldner

 

[SchemeSC]

True, but the best measure of the degree of rotation of the core is the degree of turn in the shoulders. Try it out if you are still a skeptic.

If I am understanding you correctly, you are saying that if someone rotates heavily from the core, they will also have a high degree of shoulder rotation. For example, this is my FH loop down the line. I have a good bit of shoulder rotation in this picture, but I did not think about turning my shoulders at all:



If that's what you mean, then I'm definitely not a skeptic.

 

[NextLevel]

If I am understanding you correctly, you are saying that if someone rotates heavily from the core, they will also have a high degree of shoulder rotation. For example, this is my FH loop down the line. I have a good bit of shoulder rotation in this picture, but I did not think about turning my shoulders at all:

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If that's what you mean, then I'm definitely not a skeptic.

Yes. And if for some reason they don't, which is semi impossible without some defect, the position of the shoulders is the best indicator for how much you can bring into the shot. In fact, when Brett was here, he kept on telling us that even before moving for a ball, once you intend to play a forehand, the first thing you should do is turn your shoulders. There is a deeper logic to it, but basically, it forces you to have the backswing ready on time.

 

[Yecats Encerwal]

Yes. And if for some reason they don't, which is semi impossible without some defect, the position of the shoulders is the best indicator for how much you can bring into the shot. In fact, when Brett was here, he kept on telling us that even before moving for a ball, once you intend to play a forehand, the first thing you should do is turn your shoulders. There is a deeper logic to it, but basically, it forces you to have the backswing ready on time.

Just to add, and you guys probably already know this, but the first thing you should do when playing a forehand topspin, and one of the most important, is to ensure your right foot is slightly behind your left foot (opposite for left handers).You should turn your shoulders as you move to this position. This allows for more power when playing the stroke as it forces you to turn you hips/shoulders as you play the stroke (to play the ball in the right direction), as well as improving balance.

Im sure you guys will be aware of this, but just want to make sure no-one is underestimating the importance of footwork and positioning