Anybody ever fixed air bubble on topsheet?

[TensorBackhand]

In my experience, the bubble develops after the first or second re-glue (involving re-boost), because those stretch the rubber, force me to cut some overlap. So if it is new, I'd not worry about 1st time boosting, of course assuming you're not making a "tube" of it.

Curious about how you like it. For me, the top-sheet felt somehow "thin", in compare to H3. The sponge and hardness felt all-right though.

yes you're right, the topsheet feels soft and thin and weak, while the sponge feels very hard. I think that is what makes the rubber bubble rather easily. Have you bubbled your sheets?

I'm thinking of doing very very thin boost with a different booster to see if it holds up better.

 

[latej]

yes you're right, the topsheet feels soft and thin and weak, while the sponge feels very hard. I think that is what makes the rubber bubble rather easily. Have you bubbled your sheets?

I'm thinking of doing very very thin boost with a different booster to see if it holds up better.

Same exp.

Bubble vs top-sheet: I think the top-sheet - I mean the layer above pips - it is thin - but what is connected to the sponge is the pips. You see, so that "thinness" of the top-sheet doesn't (or doesn't have to) influence the bubbling

I didn't bubble my sheet. I used it for 3 hours and sold it for 1/2 the price.

Yes, 1 thin layer, to make it straight or minimally curled.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Same exp.

Bubble vs top-sheet: I think the top-sheet - I mean the layer above pips - it is thin - but what is connected to the sponge is the pips. You see, so that "thinness" of the top-sheet doesn't (or doesn't have to) influence the bubbling

I didn't bubble my sheet. I used it for 3 hours and sold it for 1/2 the price.

Yes, 1 thin layer, to make it straight or minimally curled.

Why did you give it up after 3 hours?

 

[latej]

Why did you give it up after 3 hours?

Yes.

Btw., I couldn't resist and glued the Double Fish Volant Phoenix H40 (boosted with 1 layer of FTL-Seamoon rests mixture to make it straight). The setup is now 196g, 10g heaviear then the same with H3 BS H41. Sponge is dense, tackiness is not very high, I can lift the ball, but it goes down quickly. Will test on Tuesday.

Measured some hardnesses:
- NH3PTB 58
- Victas TDE 54-55
- DFVP H40 52-53
- H3 BS H41 50
- B2 BS Nat H38 47-48

That particular H3 (prov.) seems to be quite softer than expected, it should be 54.

Sorry, I read: "Did you give it up", missed the "Why" ;-)

So, I didn't quite enjoy this thin feeling on top-spins. I was going down from the NH3PTB which bubbled 1-2 weeks before a tournament of one Czech TT forum. Perhaps that influenced me, don't know. But I had 1 reserved H3 BS H41 (the last one, that softer one), so I glued it instead before the tournament. And now I glued the DFVP, also 1 week before another tournament ;-)

 

[TensorBackhand]

Well I tried to boost 1 sheet of TDE with very light thin layer of booster. The problem is, it doesn't seem this light layer has enough effect on the rubber. It's still a bit too dead for me. For me to play well, I need to boost it a little more.

But then I am very worried about the bubbling.

 

[latej]

Well I tried to boost 1 sheet of TDE with very light thin layer of booster. The problem is, it doesn't seem this light layer has enough effect on the rubber. It's still a bit too dead for me. For me to play well, I need to boost it a little more.

But then I am very worried about the bubbling.

Then give it to somehow who may like it ;-)

 

[v100ev]

I will pop in this thread just to say that I've also encountered a bubble problem on the TDE. And also I've read about such problem.. I'm pretty sure (even more - I have an unofficial confirmation) that they (Victas) have a problem with this rubber.
It's a pity cause the rubber is great after it breaks.. But yeah - I wouldn't buy a second one..

 

[TensorBackhand]

I will pop in this thread just to say that I've also encountered a bubble problem on the TDE. And also I've read about such problem.. I'm pretty sure (even more - I have an unofficial confirmation) that they (Victas) have a problem with this rubber.
It's a pity cause the rubber is great after it breaks.. But yeah - I wouldn't buy a second one..

Did you bubble TDE after boosting? or without boosting? Which booster did you use?

 

[v100ev]

Did you bubble TDE after boosting? or without boosting? Which booster did you use?

No - I don't boost rubbers
It became very lively after the third session and I liked it very much.
I played with it for three weeks - 2-3 times a week, mostly matches (I'm no pro ). After the third week the ball started to slip off on some shots (it was bizarre cause sometimes it was fine and sometimes very bad and I thought that the problem was in my technique..) and after inspection (from me and from other guys in the club) we saw that the topsheet has detached from the sponge.. to prove this we unglued (very carefully) the rubber and it became very evident that this was the problem(the bubbles appeared instantly). And that was it Now I use B2 National 38 degree and it does pretty much the same job for me

 

[lodro]

TDE

help me out here please, what again does it stand for ???? TDE Tripple double WHAT ???

 

[TensorBackhand]

help me out here please, what again does it stand for ???? TDE Tripple double WHAT ???

Triple Double Extra

 

[pingpongpaddy]

As Victas is a company with a reputation to protect, I would take the entire sponge rubber off the blade and post it to Victas with a nice letter mentioning that this thread on TTD is following with interest
good luck

 

[TensorBackhand]

As Victas is a company with a reputation to protect, I would take the entire sponge rubber off the blade and post it to Victas with a nice letter mentioning that this thread on TTD is following with interest
good luck

Anybody have contact with Victas before?

I tried emailing victas about a separate topic but got no response.

 

[turbozed]

@TensorBackhand did you eventually try to glue the topsheet bubble?

I boosted a brand new Loki Rxton 3 Pink to just make it a bit softer (went from around 52-53d to 49-50d). But then a bubble developed on the edge of the rubber. I don't have to cut a hole or anything, and it's not a ton of surface area where I can't play with it, but I'd like to prevent it from spreading and flapping around.

Should I just squeeze some DHS No. 15 into that area and then clamp it down?

 

[Fnub]

I boosted a brand new Loki Rxton 3 Pink to just make it a bit softer (went from around 52-53d to 49-50d). But then a bubble developed on the edge of the rubber. I don't have to cut a hole or anything, and it's not a ton of surface area where I can't play with it, but I'd like to prevent it from spreading and flapping around.

Should I just squeeze some DHS No. 15 into that area and then clamp it down?

If you don't care, it's ok. The surface will look awkward. It's pretty difficult to glue the part of the topsheet properly. I'd better take off the topsheet by heating it and then glued. But it is kinda risky as TB mentioned. I had 2 lucky sheets but it requires some experience

 

[turbozed]

Alright so I squeezed some dhs no 15 into the bubble and then put a book or two on the paddle after.

Preliminary results are that the bubble is now less visible. Maybe 10% as bad as what it looked like before. Didn't expect results like this visually. Will see how it plays in a couple days.

 

[riemsesy]

What booster did you use?
I read somewhere (*can’t find) that ESN rubbers respond better to Falcon boosters, and Chinese rubbers respond better to Haifu.

But you are king of booster rubbers on TTD so I guess you know that.

 

[igorponger]

Hi, dear
Give a try to the dry boosting. It is a novelty methode to enlive hard and dull sponge. Patented in Russia by a local rubber engineer. 🎀

 

[Zeen]

triple double extra is produced... where? In China?

I have never seen an ESN rubber bubble.

I always assume that it is because chinese rubber's bond between sponge and topsheet is weak, you can easily separate by boiling water. ESN made stuff, however, no chance at all.