Hurricane rubbers that are worth it without boosting

[BaRanchik]

I am curious about how H3 (both Neo and regular) play without boosting.
Considering getting a sheet or two for testing on my FH, but I just can't bother with the whole boosting process.
Are any of the H3 variations (including different hardnesses) viable for a FH without boosting, or is it just hot garbage?

 

[TensorBackhand]

I am curious about how H3 (both Neo and regular) play without boosting.
Considering getting a sheet or two for testing on my FH, but I just can't bother with the whole boosting process.
Are any of the H3 variations (including different hardnesses) viable for a FH without boosting, or is it just hot garbage?

I recently got a sheet of H41 Hurricane 3 regular. It is somewhat slow, definitely slower than your Arthur China. But its not unplayable for me.

If you saw some of my video clips, I was playing with H3 unboosted regular, so it might give you a sense of how it plays. So if you want something as fast as your LAC, I don't think any of the H3 variations would keep up in speed. H8 might be slightly faster, but still not as fast as LAC.

But if you just want to try something different, slower isn't necesarily terrible.

 

[TensorBackhand]

BTW your setup is awesome. AK47 red is pretty awesome and powerful.

 

[ben1229]

Without boost ,don't recommend .

 

[TensorBackhand]

I am curious about how H3 (both Neo and regular) play without boosting.
Considering getting a sheet or two for testing on my FH, but I just can't bother with the whole boosting process.
Are any of the H3 variations (including different hardnesses) viable for a FH without boosting, or is it just hot garbage?

This game was played with unboosted H3 41d on fh, Rhyzen ZGR on bh. So you can see if you find it too slow.

 

[NextLevel]

The real key is to let the tack wear off. It's really having too much tack that causes problems. If you are patient enough, and glue it generously, it becomes playable with a bit less stickiness.

 

[lodro]

This game was played with unboosted H3 41d on fh, Rhyzen ZGR on bh. So you can see if you find it too slow.

I am curious about how H3 (both Neo and regular) play without boosting.
Considering getting a sheet or two for testing on my FH, but I just can't bother with the whole boosting process.
Are any of the H3 variations (including different hardnesses) viable for a FH without boosting, or is it just hot garbage?

I played with unboosted H3 (mainly 39 and 40) long before I got introduced to the
mysteries of boosting.
H3 is only slow if the proper brushing technique is not used.
Of course it will be slow if you "flat-hit" and think you were giving a powerful FH loop.
But this completely defies the whole purpose of the invention of sticky chinese rubbers.

 

[BaRanchik]

I recently got a sheet of H41 Hurricane 3 regular. It is somewhat slow, definitely slower than your Arthur China. But its not unplayable for me.

If you saw some of my video clips, I was playing with H3 unboosted regular, so it might give you a sense of how it plays. So if you want something as fast as your LAC, I don't think any of the H3 variations would keep up in speed. H8 might be slightly faster, but still not as fast as LAC.

But if you just want to try something different, slower isn't necesarily terrible.

I don't necessarily need the extra speed if I can trade it for spin. I doesn't seem too slow, at least for my current level.

The real key is to let the tack wear off. It's really having too much tack that causes problems. If you are patient enough, and glue it generously, it becomes playable with a bit less stickiness.

Would playing with brand new balls and leaving the dust on it work similarly?

 

[BaRanchik]

I played with unboosted H3 (mainly 39 and 40) long before I got introduced to the
mysteries of boosting.
H3 is only slow if the proper brushing technique is not used.
Of course it will be slow if you "flat-hit" and think you were giving a powerful FH loop.
But this completely defies the whole purpose of the invention of sticky chinese rubbers.

So you are basically saying it's punishing for improper technique. I like that. I find LAC and AK47 Red doing the same to me in the past week I've been using them, but I'm also interested in more similar rubbers. Hopefully this improves my form and not completely destroy my game.

 

[TensorBackhand]

So you are basically saying it's punishing for improper technique. I like that. I find LAC and AK47 Red doing the same to me in the past week I've been using them, but I'm also interested in more similar rubbers. Hopefully this improves my form and not completely destroy my game.

Try Bloom Power or Jupiter 3. Awesome rubbers with tackiness

 

[Emin]

Hurricane 8 80,
37 or 38 both viable,
Its my go to Backhand rubber from now on.
Nothing to complain about.

 

[NextLevel]

I don't necessarily need the extra speed if I can trade it for spin. I doesn't seem too slow, at least for my current level.


Would playing with brand new balls and leaving the dust on it work similarly?

Cleaning would work fine as well, the rubber just needs to age a little. But It plays better with use. It is just hard to br patient. Some people boost it once and never boost it again and get to a good place. But the main thing is to just get it to soften and not be as sticky as too much stickiness makes it hard to get ball separation.

 

[lodro]

So you are basically saying it's punishing for improper technique. I like that. I find LAC and AK47 Red doing the same to me in the past week I've been using them, but I'm also interested in more similar rubbers. Hopefully this improves my form and not completely destroy my game.

Yes, punishing with improper technique.
Another rubber similar to LAC would be Dingtian blue sponge . I use it unboosted on my FH and I am happy with it. Actually, I found LAC a lot of hard work and sold it to my coach who is yet to try it out.

 

[blahness]

Hurricane 8-80 is quite good at lower power levels, without boosting. I used it on FH for a while.

 

[Fnub]

The hardest versions of H3 if we're talking about commercial versions are pretty useable. Here I agree with Michael. But the softer versions feel just mushy and unplayable even with booster. The hardest are 40,41. Softer are 37 . 38 and 39 are still playable if your blade is enough fast, like V14 pro or DHS H Long 5. I used a really soft sheet of H2 on Stuor Long 5 (similar feeling to DHS, but obviously softer). And it was very spinny but unforgivable at all. And not powerful.
Proper technique => nice loops with H3, even unboosted.
I've heard that the newer sheets of H3 are not that tacky so, maybe the soft versions could be playable

 

[Fnub]

I played with unboosted H3 (mainly 39 and 40) long before I got introduced to the
mysteries of boosting.
H3 is only slow if the proper brushing technique is not used.
Of course it will be slow if you "flat-hit" and think you were giving a powerful FH loop.
But this completely defies the whole purpose of the invention of sticky chinese rubbers.

I have always thought that sticky Chinese rubbers require proper technique but not the brushing one. Brushing is more for tensors. With Sticky rubbers I open the racket a little bit and try to play through the ball. Their sponges are dead and when brushing sponge doesn't play but with opened racket it is easier to break in the sponge and the ball goes with much more spin and speed than with brushing.

 

[lodro]

But the softer versions feel just mushy and unplayable

With this disagree. Now, I never was a fan of Neos, I always preferred the normal H3 but my boosted 37 Neo plays fine on a very very slow blade. I think we have to always give consideration to the fact that the majority of players in most clubs are not A graders or anywhere near Ma Long andCo. They often do not play a style that has speed as a major aspect. Spin , blocking, control and careful placing together with lots of backspin pushes has driven many a higher grade player stark raving mad

 

[JJ Ng]

I guess I have to jump in if the discussion is about Hurricane.

I have always boosted hurricane. I have not ever not boosted it before.

If you find it slow, you can always slap it onto a fast carbon blade. It will definitely speed it up quite a bit.

I assume boosting is to chemically break the sponge to make it softer. If you don't want to boost and you play it long enough, then you will mechanically break the sponge to make it softer anyway over time.

If not boosted, I would recommend Sanwei Target National. Unboosted, it plays well. Top sheet is tacky but not super tacky like the old H3 or H3 neo (apparently the new H3 or H3 neo is not tacky tacky anymore). It has blue sponge. Good speed. It does great straight out of a package.

 

[longle]

Yes, punishing with improper technique.
Another rubber similar to LAC would be Dingtian blue sponge . I use it unboosted on my FH and I am happy with it. Actually, I found LAC a lot of hard work and sold it to my coach who is yet to try it out.

can you pls describe Dingtian BS ? how similar is it compare to LAC ? I really like the tacky-but-not-so-tacky topsheet of LAC and its hard-but-still-engaging sponge.

I found a post in this forum said that this rubber only last 1 week does it suffer the same fate as LAC

 

[TensorBackhand]

can you pls describe Dingtian BS ? how similar is it compare to LAC ? I really like the tacky-but-not-so-tacky topsheet of LAC and its hard-but-still-engaging sponge.

I found a post in this forum said that this rubber only last 1 week does it suffer the same fate as LAC

No, its not similar to LAC.

I tried it unboosted, and it felt very basic or bland to me. It really didn't stand out to me at all. It looked like a $10 rubber to me, like Rxton 1 or something.