Back of the Head throb after training

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See a medical doctor. Don't get medical advice on a table tennis board.
It's not the worst idea to ask on a TT forum. This is quite common and it's usually fixed with strength exercises and stretches. But if it persists or gets worse then I would consider a physiotherapist, osteopath or otherwise.
Most doctors are shite and only prescribe pills.
 
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It's not the worst idea to ask on a TT forum. This is quite common and it's usually fixed with strength exercises and stretches. But if it persists or gets worse then I would consider a physiotherapist, osteopath or otherwise.
Most doctors are shite and only prescribe pills.
thank you. ive been doing neck stretches and bought this neck pillow which helped out a lot. still, ill have myself checked out just incaae
 
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Likely to be the suboccipital muscles, often triggered by tension in the shoulders and neck.
There are many physios with channels on YouTube that can help with exercises and stretches for them

Maybe. It really could be a lot of things. It could be simple stress; stress causing tension headache type symptoms. Could be regional. It could be muscle tension. It could be nerve impingement as a result of muscle tension. It could be disc issues in the cervical spin. It could be nerve impingement as a result of disc issues in the cervical spin.

Really, the list goes on. And when you are dealing with something that could be as a result of nerve impingement, you could have 10 different people with the same exact symptoms and the the underlying cause is slightly different or even drastically different.

One thing to know is, if you find something that causes it to feel better, the underlying cause matters less than the thing that causes the improvement or cessation of the symptoms.

What would happen if you took a week or two off from TT to see if the issue subsides on its own?

Sometimes breaks in training and play help you improve more than you would realize without them.
 
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Maybe. It really could be a lot of things. It could be simple stress; stress causing tension headache type symptoms. Could be regional. It could be muscle tension. It could be nerve impingement as a result of muscle tension. It could be disc issues in the cervical spin. It could be nerve impingement as a result of disc issues in the cervical spin.

Really, the list goes on. And when you are dealing with something that could be as a result of nerve impingement, you could have 10 different people with the same exact symptoms and the the underlying cause is slightly different or even drastically different.

One thing to know is, if you find something that causes it to feel better, the underlying cause matters less than the thing that causes the improvement or cessation of the symptoms.

What would happen if you took a week or two off from TT to see if the issue subsides on its own?

Sometimes breaks in training and play help you improve more than you would realize without them.
hmmmm honestly without table tennis, everything feels boring mostly. its one of my pleasures. i see what your getting at. what i may feel can relate to a lot of different things. ill have myself checked out this sunday. ill try taking a week off after my tournament this saturday.

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Maybe. It really could be a lot of things. It could be simple stress; stress causing tension headache type symptoms. Could be regional. It could be muscle tension. It could be nerve impingement as a result of muscle tension. It could be disc issues in the cervical spin. It could be nerve impingement as a result of disc issues in the cervical spin.

Really, the list goes on. And when you are dealing with something that could be as a result of nerve impingement, you could have 10 different people with the same exact symptoms and the the underlying cause is slightly different or even drastically different.

One thing to know is, if you find something that causes it to feel better, the underlying cause matters less than the thing that causes the improvement or cessation of the symptoms.

What would happen if you took a week or two off from TT to see if the issue subsides on its own?

Sometimes breaks in training and play help you improve more than you would realize without them.

Yeah, it could be a lot of things but based on the description I've outlined the most likely.

100% of the time, someone describing the above, the starting point is the muscles in the area, stretching and exercising these

It could be many things, I'm sure we could list another 20 but based on his description (starting at the back of the head and radiating towards the shoulders) it is fairly likely to be what I suggested. In any case, if it is stress, muscle tension, nerve impingement or even a lack of mobility in the uppr discs then stretching, exercise or massage is a good place to start.
 
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Yeah, it could be a lot of things but based on the description I've outlined the most likely.

100% of the time, someone describing the above, the starting point is the muscles in the area. Stretching and exercising these is the
Yes, it could be many things, I'm sure we could list another 20 but based on his description (starting at the back of the head and radiating towards the shoulders) it is fairly likely to be what I suggested. In any case, if it is stress, muscle tension, nerve impingement or even a lack of mobility in the uppr discs then stretching, exercise or massage is a good place to start.

I work with an awful lot of people a week helping them with things like what is described above; sometimes I work with as many as 200 people in a week. Honestly, I would never assume I knew what was going on with someone over the internet based on a description as vague and as easy to interpret to mean many different things as the description the OP gave.

What do you do in your every day life? Do you have qualifications to diagnose issues like the one Amekun is describing?
 
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I would never assume I knew what was going on with someone over the internet based on a description as vague and as easy to interpret to mean many different things as the description the OP gave.
Neither would I and I'm not saying I know what it is.
I said what's likely, pointed to physiotherapy channels along with "But if it persists or gets worse then I would consider a physiotherapist, osteopath or otherwise".

His question was 'has anyone has the same experience and how did they fix it.'
I didn't fix similar issues by doing nothing. But sure, a break is possibly good advice. It's also the safest 'nothing' advice that can be given by anyone.

If you think any of my words to the OP are unwise or irresponsible then by all means please tell him so. I will still stand by those words but there is no value in arguing with anyone who is misreading what I've written.
 
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Neither would I and I'm not saying I know what it is.
I said what's likely, pointed to physiotherapy channels along with "But if it persists or gets worse then I would consider a physiotherapist, osteopath or otherwise".

His question was 'has anyone has the same experience and how did they fix it.'
I didn't fix similar issues by doing nothing. But sure, a break is possibly good advice. It's also the safest 'nothing' advice that can be given by anyone.

If you think any of my words to the OP are unwise or irresponsible then by all means please tell him so. I will still stand by those words but there is no value in arguing with anyone who is misreading what I've written.

This is the thing you said that seemed a bit off to me:

100% of the time, someone describing the above, the starting point is the muscles in the area, stretching and exercising these

Without doing an assessment of the person, I am not so sure 100% is anywhere near 100%. And without doing an assessment of the person, I am definitely not sure what will help it. And understanding that saying "stretching and exercising" does not specify what particular stretches or what particular exercises and Some STRETCHES that would be good for one neck issue could be bad for another and Some EXERCISES that could be good for one neck issue could also cause damage to another.

And you said the 100% comment in direct response to me as though you thought you knew what you were talking about but what you said is vague beyond vague to the point that it could actually mean almost anything. I can think of dozens of stretches or exercises for the neck that it could mean. And someone trying to use your comment as advice, could try things that would cause them injury if they thought you meant a particular stretch or exercise that would specifically be bad for the issue that person had.

So....since you were responding directly to me as though you knew what you were talking about and were "RIGHT" without having actually said Anything, I decided it was something that should actually be addressed since I do work with people on things like what the OP has going on on a daily basis and it is always actually a process of problem solving to figure out what would really help the person's issues to improve and get better. Which also means that something could work for a few weeks and then they need something different after it gets a certain amount better.

I guess, one more aside, if the issue is actually the result of nerve impingement, then, depending on what is causing the impingement of the nerve, that might actually 100% NOT be muscles. To make what I am saying clearer, if nerve impingement was being caused by stenosis in the vertebra and a spinal foramen that was narrowing, that would 100% not be caused by the muscles, that would not be the muscles that were the starting point, and it is hard to say what would help without some testing.
 
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BTW: none of this information is personal. It is not about that. I just would rather have people better informed.

I have seen many people say things like: "you have a back problem, I did this for my back and it made it better, you should do this," without having a clue if that would be good for the person's back or not. I would rather just give the information.

It is true that there are times doctors are not equipped to help people with sports related issues that could be easily helped. And it might be easy to help what is going on with Amekun. But if he misinterprets what someone says and does something that will exacerbate the issue instead of helping, it would not be good.

Amekun, hopefully, this is behind you ASAP.

Sims: I am just trying to make clear what I was responding to and how it may seem simple if you do know how to take care of yourself but also, how information in a written form is easily misinterpreted. And in this case, even if it is not misinterpreted, it could still have an adverse effect even if your intentions were to help. But specific videos might be helpful. So, since you are referencing some, maybe you would like to post one or two.
 
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Hello everyone, i just got back from the doctor.

i'd like to thank everyone for their input.
so yeah:

due to lack of warm ups, stretches, and i do tense my shoulders very hard when i hit with my SP. its mostly tension headache to summarize. the doc gave me some muscle relaxants and im alright now.

this has become an important lesson for me. i have bought some neck stretch and back strech apparatus, it worked wonders. ill strech before and after 😁
 
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