Friendship 729 battle 3
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after all my complains , if you put 5 layers of glue and 2 layers of booster and you add big size layer of glue on blade you will get better sound which is not like cardboard, and it is really easier to penetrate the rubber. I had chance to make a mini test with DHS Provincial H3 Neo 39 sponge and I can say they are pretty similar. H3 is slower and softer and has better feeling with better throw but B3 is better as a wall and has better price on aliexpress
What is the weight of Loki Telson rubber ? Is it more bouncy or less bouncy than Tibhar MXP rubber ?
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I have thin watery glue IT means that 6 layers are still less compared to 3-4 layers if I use free chack.
I used a lot of blades. Battle 3 loves my Timo Boll Spirit. Hates my Harimoto zlc. Hates my Mizutani super zlc. Hates my An Jaehyun Tmxi pro. Didnt like Revoldia low gears. The biggest hate from Battle 3 I saw with my favorite Darker Avantir. They hate each other. Didnt like my Mizuno Fortius. Right now I put Battle 3 with 5 layers on my Sk7 which is the most grippy blade from my collection and this is great marriage. Thick, hard, stiff, grippy 7 ply + a lot of glue. I destroyed one rubber because the hold from SK7 is really deep and I really had problems to take off rubbers, that's why I called marriage. Last dance from B3. That's why I put a lot of layers and booster.
I use Mantra Pro H on backhand and it is great choice too
My SK7 is easy to use because it is slow. I have fancy blades but I found this blade gives me confidence to use my all tricks.
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I didnt try to weight but this is not nittaku hurricane pro. I glued another telson on my 86 g Innerforce alc S and another v22 2,0 and I feel the balance it means its not very heavy.
I have problems to impact up-spin serves with my hayata so it is not bouncy. I think this is downgrade to mxp/tenergy because both rubbers are shot makers and they will live with own life but it is easy to use. Telson s low gears are near chinese short game. High gears are more dignicsy. The guy WHO loves Telson like myself tell us to use classic 5 ply slow blade just to add dwell time and add chance to get more bounce from rubber which is correct.
I put my last, third Telson 475 on Darker 5+4 CNF blade and I know why Loki made Telson 100 475. I know their CNF is not the same as the OG Japan Pulp but OG CNF adds a lot of hold in short pushing, chopping game and Telson lacks of sponge penetration so it is clear match because short moves helps add spin without the additional bounce and you are not release high bouncy balls until you make mistake in reading the spin.
It can only go long. You can push too long and opponent catch you when you didnt found space after push but your ball will be still low, spinny and long so your opponent must play really good or know your game really well.
CNF blades adds a lot of bounce in high gears like 5 ply blades and Telson loves the bounce from blade like every hard sponge rubbers
After 4 weeks tackyness is almost gone but it's ok, grip is still here. On DHS B2 blade initially felt a bit difficult to activate carbon, now it happens quite consistently around 70% power.
In real matches still quite a weapon.
However with G09c for example I feel the sponge and how much I compress it during strokes, with B3 it's more like on-off switch. Either a thin brush loop or a bang to the wood, so quite often I hold off and play more cautiously than I could. Will definitely go up to 39d.
In real matches still quite a weapon.
However with G09c for example I feel the sponge and how much I compress it during strokes, with B3 it's more like on-off switch. Either a thin brush loop or a bang to the wood, so quite often I hold off and play more cautiously than I could. Will definitely go up to 39d.
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I got Battle 3 for test. 38 for BH and 41 for FH. Just glued on Yinhe 05 after little boost. Smells like fish or chinese tea, but looks very similar to H3, may be little more sticky.
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Battle 3's smell is nowhere near the dead fish smell of Battle Taichi. I had to spray some Old Spice deodorant to it
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I'm playing the 729 Blue Alc with Battle 3 40 forehand and Battle 3 39 backhand. My control and strenght I can put on the ball increased tremendously. I put 2 glue layer on the rubber and 2 glue layer on the blade, I would say I can feel the ball quite good on the blade. I boosted the rubber with 2 layers of seamoon. So far the best rubbers I tested for the 729 Blue Alc.
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Tested rubbers were:
- DHS Goldarc 8 50 on forehand
- Loki Rxton 3 blue 40 backhand
- Loki Arthur China 40 backhand
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Wow, I'm glad that you found rubbers that suit your blade. As for me, I find it difficult to find a rubber that pairs well with Blue ALC. The rubbers I liked on this blade:
729 Battle 2 Gold boosted
729 Battle 2 Prov BS 39 unboosted(haven't tried boosted but sure it will go well)
Yinhe Moon 12 M+(a bit muted feel but very controlled though I didn't like the rubber)
The rubbers I hated:
729 Battle 2 Gold unboosted(no dwell time)
DHS H3 BS 42( didn't like the rubber on every blade, it goes bad with my technique)
Gewo Nexxus XT48 (too fast(and soft))
Stiga Mantra H (not as fast as gewo but still too fast)
Reactor Tornado V5 (muted feel)
Yinhe J3 37 (muted feel)
729 Bloom Arc 47 (no dwell time)
Butterfly T80fx(too soft)
Butterfly Dignics 05(slow)
I don't understand what does this blade eat except 729 battle series. someone please help.
In addition, Viscaria plays almost perfectly with all of the mentioned rubbers, it feels more solid.
So what didn't you like about GA8, R3 and LAC?
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Wow you have an even bigger experience with the 729 blue alc.
For the goldarc 8 in the beginning it was a great rubber, but after like 3 month the ball started to slip from the blade. The speed and the catapult effect were really fun to play with. So then I searched for a new forehand thats more durable. I saw on revspin the positiv reviews from the battle 3 so I ordered it.
For the loki rubbers the arthur china is a powerful rubber but I think I dont have the skills yet to fully handle it.
The rxton 3 blue is very fun to play, almost perfect linear. Only thing battle 3 does better it has more gears. Control wise these 2 rubbers are pretty the same.
For the goldarc 8 in the beginning it was a great rubber, but after like 3 month the ball started to slip from the blade. The speed and the catapult effect were really fun to play with. So then I searched for a new forehand thats more durable. I saw on revspin the positiv reviews from the battle 3 so I ordered it.
For the loki rubbers the arthur china is a powerful rubber but I think I dont have the skills yet to fully handle it.
The rxton 3 blue is very fun to play, almost perfect linear. Only thing battle 3 does better it has more gears. Control wise these 2 rubbers are pretty the same.
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I played day with B3 on Yinhe 05. The rubber is very similar to H3 but even stickier for now. In terms of gameplay, it feels slower, possibly because it hasn't broken in yet and the stickiness hasn't worn off. After just one day, signs of wear appeared that are comparable to a few weeks of play with H3.
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So I glued my circa 1 year old sheet ot the Stiga Inspira Plus after applying a layer of regular Seamoon on it. The rubber has some oxidation and glue marks on it but it's still very grippy and elastic so I don't give 2 craps. For summer break it's fine.
I glued it on the Stiga Wang Manyu blade since it was cut for regular blade not Cybershape.
Boy was I glad I glued it on that blade. It feels like the perfect combo. B3 was already very good with the Cybershape but with the Stiga Wang Manyu blade... even better. The Stiga blade was more catapult somehow and feels less carbony while being faster than blades that are more carbony. How is that possible? Not sure but that blade holds the ball a lot and catapults a lot while being relatively had and stiff.
On BH I was using normal Glayzer, since I like the sperrior grip it has over any other rubber except for Dignics.
Also Glayzer is very light so works well for me.
The total blade weight it 191g which is perfect for me.
Both rubber performed great with great ball holding potential and great speed and spin but I like the grip of both rubbers the most.
I made a video of a match I played it's nothing special but it's against a blocker (he uses Yinhe T11+ with Big Dipper as black on BH and Moon 12 H- on FH). Super blocking oriented blade, super insensitive and pretty fast so suits his game (especially against me, the blade was made specially to be good against me)
Please bear in mind I used Cybershape Carbon for 8 months prior and I'm using this blade for the first time since then. I think I did pretty well actually, it felt very good. (gave him advantage, first set 5, then 4 then 5 then 6 points. We start from 5 points advantage and if I win he gets one more if I loses he gets one less)
I glued it on the Stiga Wang Manyu blade since it was cut for regular blade not Cybershape.
Boy was I glad I glued it on that blade. It feels like the perfect combo. B3 was already very good with the Cybershape but with the Stiga Wang Manyu blade... even better. The Stiga blade was more catapult somehow and feels less carbony while being faster than blades that are more carbony. How is that possible? Not sure but that blade holds the ball a lot and catapults a lot while being relatively had and stiff.
On BH I was using normal Glayzer, since I like the sperrior grip it has over any other rubber except for Dignics.
Also Glayzer is very light so works well for me.
The total blade weight it 191g which is perfect for me.
Both rubber performed great with great ball holding potential and great speed and spin but I like the grip of both rubbers the most.
I made a video of a match I played it's nothing special but it's against a blocker (he uses Yinhe T11+ with Big Dipper as black on BH and Moon 12 H- on FH). Super blocking oriented blade, super insensitive and pretty fast so suits his game (especially against me, the blade was made specially to be good against me)
Please bear in mind I used Cybershape Carbon for 8 months prior and I'm using this blade for the first time since then. I think I did pretty well actually, it felt very good. (gave him advantage, first set 5, then 4 then 5 then 6 points. We start from 5 points advantage and if I win he gets one more if I loses he gets one less)
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For some reason, I expected you to look more like the anime girl in your profile picture 😆
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Great play from both players, as soon as he get in his comfort blocking position is pretty hard to break through. You got more strenght on forehand and backhand. Great play!
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