Stiga Dragon Power 52.5, 55, 57.5 rubber?

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it is really odd because like you see: if you dont give any power and just hold it passive, the ball will not bounce off very much. If you do an active stroke though, the power of the sponge is very easily activated ( a little like the power was easily accessible with the Andro Nuzn 50 rubbers)
Do you have regular dragon grip? Maybe try the bounce test
 
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to be honest, that is exactly what a real hybrid should bring to the table. Dampen the bounce in short play (like chinese rubbers), but make it easy to generate power on active strokes like the regular tensors.

It is definitely in line with physics.

Just think off a custom made spring
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you can design it so that it will not give in until specific force x is applied. If you apply force y it might compress and catapult out with strong force.

Similar like a trampoline where it might not bounce much for people with too low of a weight if the fabric is setup too stiff.
 
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to be honest, that is exactly what a real hybrid should bring to the table. Dampen the bounce in short play (like chinese rubbers), but make it easy to generate power on active strokes like the regular tensors.

It is definitely in line with physics.

Just think off a custom made spring
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you can design it so that it will not give in until specific force x is applied. If you apply force y it might compress and catapult out with strong force.

Similar like a trampoline where it might not bounce much for people with too low of a weight if the fabric is setup too stiff.
So when you loop harder, do you find greater power than other hybrids?
 
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So when you loop harder, do you find greater power than other hybrids?
greater than Rakza Z and PK 50 ? definitely. It might be on the level of the Nittaku Genextion, but unfortunately i dont have other Hybrids available to compare.

It is important to note that you do not need much force to generate good power. So you dont need to loop very hard to get good depth even away from the table.
 
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after another session the initial impressions have hardened.
The Dragon Power 52,5 is slower and more controlled in the passive game than the Rakza Z. You can play spinny loops without engaging the sponge, but this can obviously lead to the ball failing to clear the net. Not because there is not enough spin generated, but simply because the sponge wont catapult the ball forward enough if you go for acceleration/spin only. It is definitely linear in the way that you can do very controlled things passively, can do loops short behind the net and can do power loops from distance easily. I am slowly learning when the power of the rubber activates and when not. The nice thing is that you got lots of power, but the fact that it does not set in too early means you can also choose when to drive the ball faster and when not to.
 
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So after reviewing a bit of the video i took yesterday one could see that the hardness of 52,5° does not need to scare away people with a slower arm or less acceleration.

Even with my suboptimal technique and slower arm it was able to loop with this rubber.

Note the two first loops (in below video) that i did not put much acceleration in did clear the net comfortably. If i did the same with NH3TB or something the ball surely would have dropped into the net.


Unfortunately my opponent did not create much underspin (if at all) so i can not show you how the rubber behaves looping heavy backspin, but iirc on the robot it was similar to the Rakza Z.
 
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final update after i removed the rubber from my blade.
I only used it on the forehand and when i did the first comparison to rakza Z, the Rakza Z rubber was already used quite a bit while the Stiga DragonPower was new. After a few sessions the DragonPower became more lively and it is not keeping that dampening effect anymore. It is not uncontrollable, but now more lively than the Rakza Z so i got no point in using it.

It is basically the same with the all the not really sticky rubbers. You will simply get a little less spin on the short game with it.

I just put a Yasaka Shining Dragon 2 onto that blade and this one is a little sticky and actually very dampening in terms of stickiness. If you put the ball onto the blade and tilt it a little the speed with which it rolls with is quite slow (currently). It remains to be seen how the rubber changes, but the advertised data does look promising:

DESCRIPTION

  • The Yasaka SHINING DRAGON 2 table tennis rubber is made with a newly designed adhesive top sheet that generates intense rotation, paired with a slightly softer tension sponge.
  • This combination ensures both high rotational power and ease of handling.
  • As a tension type adhesive rubber, it maintains the characteristic rotational performance while being user-friendly, suitable for players of various skill levels.
  • The rubber offers exceptional spin and control, making it ideal for players seeking versatility and performance on the table.

OPTIONS AVAILABLE

  • COLOR:
    - Black
    - Red
  • THICKNESS:
    - Super Thick (MAX)
    - Thick (2.0mm)
  • - Medium (1.5mm)

SPECS

  • Sponge Hardness: 45~50°
  • Spin: -14
  • Speed: -10
  • Control: 10+
  • Rubber type: Pimples IN
  • Model: YASAKA SHINING DRAGON 2 (Ref. B-54)

What i can say already is that i can do backspin serves that bounce three times on the opponents side which is nearly impossible to me with the other more lively rubbers.
 
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We have now got an innovative rubber by Stiga named to celebrate Truls Moregard immortal achievments on sport arena. The rubber is awesome indeed. It is factory tuned with ©Premium Tungsram Beer a lot.

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We have now got an innovative rubber by Stiga named to celebrate Truls Moregard immortal achievments on sport arena. The rubber is awesome indeed. It is factory tuned with © Premium Tungsram Beer a lot.
In what dragon power is a tribute to Truls ? or are you talking about something else?
 
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final update after i removed the rubber from my blade.
I only used it on the forehand and when i did the first comparison to rakza Z, the Rakza Z rubber was already used quite a bit while the Stiga DragonPower was new. After a few sessions the DragonPower became more lively and it is not keeping that dampening effect anymore. It is not uncontrollable, but now more lively than the Rakza Z so i got no point in using it.

It is basically the same with the all the not really sticky rubbers. You will simply get a little less spin on the short game with it.

I just put a Yasaka Shining Dragon 2 onto that blade and this one is a little sticky and actually very dampening in terms of stickiness. If you put the ball onto the blade and tilt it a little the speed with which it rolls with is quite slow (currently). It remains to be seen how the rubber changes, but the advertised data does look promising:

DESCRIPTION

  • The Yasaka SHINING DRAGON 2 table tennis rubber is made with a newly designed adhesive top sheet that generates intense rotation, paired with a slightly softer tension sponge.
  • This combination ensures both high rotational power and ease of handling.
  • As a tension type adhesive rubber, it maintains the characteristic rotational performance while being user-friendly, suitable for players of various skill levels.
  • The rubber offers exceptional spin and control, making it ideal for players seeking versatility and performance on the table.

OPTIONS AVAILABLE

  • COLOR:
    - Black
    - Red
  • THICKNESS:
    - Super Thick (MAX)
    - Thick (2.0mm)
  • - Medium (1.5mm)

SPECS

  • Sponge Hardness: 45~50°
  • Spin: -14
  • Speed: -10
  • Control: 10+
  • Rubber type: Pimples IN
  • Model: YASAKA SHINING DRAGON 2 (Ref. B-54)

What i can say already is that i can do backspin serves that bounce three times on the opponents side which is nearly impossible to me with the other more lively rubbers.
Hi! What thickness of Yasaka rubber did you buy? I wonder what weight and how it plays.
 
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Hi! What thickness of Yasaka rubber did you buy? I wonder what weight and how it plays.
The only thickness available is 2.15mm I think. At first it is very controlled like a Chinese rubber and it does have some stickiness, but less than my old Rakza Z or PK50. Controlled on the short game, lower throw than Rakza Z other than that I can not judge yet.
The only remarkable thing is I can do backspin serves that roll back to the net and don't go off the table with it. Wasn't able to do that with any other non Chinese rubber
 
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There is a review by a Chinese channel, inky.tt. There is good English subs and he compares it to dg,k3,09c and v15 sticky.https://youtu.be/F1p2UMMbjuo?si=cWQaArcc-wxPefbJ for thé hybrids and
for dragon grip comparison.
Oh interesting that he found Dragon Power to be faster than DG. I always felt DG was already very very fast.
 
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