The future of chopping

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Seeing as chopping has slowly disappeared as a top-level playstyle ever since the advent of the platic ball, do you guys think it will slowly fade out of prominence, sort of like Korean penhold?
Do you guys think we will see anymore chopping prodigies, or is the style doomed to irrelevancy?
 
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Choppers need to reinvent their playstyle to incorporate a lot of close table and aggressive elements (in addition to the chopping), with an active style to rely on spin and rhythm variation to create opportunities for a point ending FH loopkill.

The plastic ball simply benefits close table play a lot. Even among attackers, the speedy close table attackers have the most success at the moment and more mid distance styles (think Xu Xin, Jun Mizutani) have more or less died out too.

If you look at successful LP users (for e.g. Kim Kum Yong, Indian women team etc...) they all play close table not mid distance.
 
Maybe anti-spin and LP, spin becomes irrelevant. And then LP both sides, ultra reversal
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Seeing as chopping has slowly disappeared as a top-level playstyle ever since the advent of the platic ball, do you guys think it will slowly fade out of prominence, sort of like Korean penhold?
Do you guys think we will see anymore chopping prodigies, or is the style doomed to irrelevancy?
in Taiwan,
the national federation want to prolong life of chopper and penhold, so there is a rule that was passed that all elementary school team needs to have at least one chopper or penhold on the team.
If the school have 4 or 8 teams, they need 4 or 8 of them.

times that by hundreds of school, I think Taiwan at least will have choppers for the next foreseeable future
but going to high level is different, as Taiwan's tt venues are all too small for choppers.
and secondly, choppers become a practice partner, and not really the main player
 
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in Taiwan,
the national federation want to prolong life of chopper and penhold, so there is a rule that was passed that all elementary school team needs to have at least one chopper or penhold on the team.
If the school have 4 or 8 teams, they need 4 or 8 of them.

times that by hundreds of school, I think Taiwan at least will have choppers for the next foreseeable future
but going to high level is different, as Taiwan's tt venues are all too small for choppers.
and secondly, choppers become a practice partner, and not really the main player
What, is Taiwan an autocratic country. I thought it was free… You just can’t dictate this…

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I don't think we will see another chopper international medal winner but I do think we will continue to see 2,3 or 4 choppers in the world top100 because it is harder to compete as a chopper but today's young attack players also have less experience against choppers.

The first couple times a looper plays a chopper he will always lose until he has gained some experience.

Especially in the women's field you sometimes see some quite high ranked loopers losing against a chopper because they have not learned to properly play choppers.

Thus I think there will be an equilibrium where we will always have a small single digit number of choppers (of course they are versatile choppers who also can attack like filius) in the top100 because it is hard to compete for choppers but on the other hand more attack players with very little experience against choppers are coming up.

I think chopping is different than jpen because playing choppers has that big familiarity aspect. Playing jpen players is not that difficult (if you are generally skilled enough), big forehand and backhand only punch and block is a style that some shakehand players are playing too, playing such a player is not that different from a good forehand, bad backhand SH player who pivot steps around a lot and doesn't really need that much special training.

But beating a chopper as least takes semi regular practice and match play against choppers and that is an advantage that choppers continue to have as the number of choppers is going down.

But winning titles I think is impossible for a chopper in these days. They can always upset one player (like filius did against lin Jun yu a couple years ago) but winning 5 matches in a row is almost impossible, especially since there are good players who struggle against choppers but also some lower ranked players who are really chopper killers. For example timo boll wasn't a lower ranked player but he basically never lost against choppers, when you face such a player as a chopper you know you are toast.

And in a tournament you might face 1 or 2 attackers who struggle against choppers but also 1 or 2 who are really good against choppers, so winning 5 matches in a row against world class players is almost impossible.

However players like muramatsu, wang yi and filius did have some good seasons in the German bundesliga with clearly positive season records but there also will be days where they basically know before the match that they have zero chance (for example against timo boll in his younger days and probably even now)
 
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Choppers need to reinvent their playstyle to incorporate a lot of close table and aggressive elements (in addition to the chopping), with an active style to rely on spin and rhythm variation to create opportunities for a point ending FH loopkill.

The plastic ball simply benefits close table play a lot. Even among attackers, the speedy close table attackers have the most success at the moment and more mid distance styles (think Xu Xin, Jun Mizutani) have more or less died out too.

If you look at successful LP users (for e.g. Kim Kum Yong, Indian women team etc...) they all play close table not mid distance.

Sorry for changing the focus of the topic, but this is one of the reasons why I don't think short pimples get enough attention. A close-to-the-table speed-based game is literally what SP's are made for!
 
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