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Hi, i currently use a wang chuqin king blade with h3 national blue sponge boosted with seamoon 2 and i am finding it hard to loop and do forehands with it after 2 weeks. Before this, i used tenergy 05 on my xiom ajh tmxi, which i was able to look with. I have a comp in about 1 ½ months what should i do, keep h3 or change to tenergy. Also maybe its ny form which us the problem. Could you guys give me some tips for me, as someone switching from tenergy to hurricane
 
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kinda hard to give you advice without a better description of what is happening. Even better than that would be a video!
In general its difficult to land loops on the table for me, sometimes it goes out or on the net. Ive asked a more experienced friend about his view on it, as he has a non boosted h3 prov and he says its too fast, due to my boosting. He said that h3 isnt usually for smashing but with it, it smashed alot due to speed. Maybe its just that im too used to tenergy and need to adjust, by trying to brush instead of smack. Hope this can help you get an idea of the situation, if not just tell me what else you need to understand. Thanks
 
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So tacky rubbers produce higher spin to speed ratios in general because the tackiness actually reduces the incoming speed of the ball quite a bit (this is why when you drop a ball onto it, it dies off). The huge benefit is in length control in the serve/short game because you can easily keep balls short as it eats up incoming momentum inherently.

But for looping, this means that you need to invest more energy into producing speed with your body with stuff like Hurricane, while maintaining the topspin brush feeling. It is hard and it is not for everyone. I also switched back to Dignics because it is simply easier on the body, and I figured out it was easier to learn how to short push with Dignics than it is to learn how to loop hard with Hurricane with good continuity, staying in balance, etc...

You have to think carefully why you switched to Hurricane suddenly for no reason...
 
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So you suggest focus on just brushing the ball?
Well, both. The brushing is the easy part. The hard part is to put enough power into your strokes at full contact. But your game close to the table will become better that’s a fact. At position 3 not so much. So if you like to play far away maybe it’s not right for you.

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If you are convinced that H3 will help your game in the long run, than concentrate on multiball looping underspin for the next sessions. Do 20-30 minutes and then involve service/3rd ball attack.
I have not really understood, what made you change from T05. WCQ is also much harder than TMXi, so it is a huge change. I would choose the setup, which I‘m confident with, not one which is perceived as better.
 
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In general its difficult to land loops on the table for me, sometimes it goes out or on the net. Ive asked a more experienced friend about his view on it, as he has a non boosted h3 prov and he says its too fast, due to my boosting. He said that h3 isnt usually for smashing but with it, it smashed alot due to speed. Maybe its just that im too used to tenergy and need to adjust, by trying to brush instead of smack. Hope this can help you get an idea of the situation, if not just tell me what else you need to understand. Thanks
hmm, well i haven't used the blue sponge version of H3N yet....but ive used commercial and prov OS at both 40 and 39 degree. I came from tenergy 05 on my forehand for two years. it was def an adjustment period for a few weeks when i switched, but since then, my forehand is 100% better than its ever been. the loops i can produce are insane.

From my personal experience - if you want a fast and spinny loop, you have to really ENGAGE the rubber every time you hit with hurricane. yes its possible to just use the top sheet and make a very spinny loop, but it wont have the speed or quality that i day dream about when i'm staring at spreadsheets at my desk lol.

also, compared to tenergy, your paddle has to be more open (IE, your hurricane rubber is facing more towards your opponent than towards the ground below) when you initially engage the rubber. then you swing through and control the spin with your wrist and fingers by wrapping your paddle over the ball.

Finding the right initial angle will be your biggest adjustment, especially coming from tenergy where i felt like i had my paddle completely closed when i would loop balls. the paddle is still closed with hurricane, but definitely more open than with tenergy.

also, like another poster mentioned, from position 3, you need to open your paddle even more than when youre at 1 or 2. but still, you engage the rubber and finish the loop with wrapping your wrist over the ball to create a truly fast and spinny ball. the thing about hurricane is you will feel when you engage the sponge+rubber vs only the topsheet. with tenergy, its more difficult because the spring sponge and highly elastic rubber.

finally, i wanted to say, there is a chance you possibly over boosted your hurricane. You said two layers of seamoon, but 2 heavy layers vs 2 light layers could be a significant difference. i think the first time i boosted my hurricanes i actually used too much booster. there were consistency issues. when i put on my provincial rubbers i only used 2 light layers of booster...i tried to do just a tiny bit more booster on my 40d vs my 39d and they honestly play pretty similar because of that. i think going forward i'm going to get a little vial dropper to measure exactly how much booster i put into each rubber. this can at least control one portion of the boosting process. of course, as players, we have minimum control of the quality of the hurricane rubber......they say national has the highest quality control vs prov which has less vs commercial which has the least. I guess the one saving grace is that every hurricane ive played with has been VERY FUN! and since its my forehand, my strongest stroke, i can make the slight adjustments from rubber to rubber very quickly that overall, its still the best decision for me to play with hurricane.
 
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hmm, well i haven't used the blue sponge version of H3N yet....but ive used commercial and prov OS at both 40 and 39 degree. I came from tenergy 05 on my forehand for two years. it was def an adjustment period for a few weeks when i switched, but since then, my forehand is 100% better than its ever been. the loops i can produce are insane.

From my personal experience - if you want a fast and spinny loop, you have to really ENGAGE the rubber every time you hit with hurricane. yes its possible to just use the top sheet and make a very spinny loop, but it wont have the speed or quality that i day dream about when i'm staring at spreadsheets at my desk lol.

also, compared to tenergy, your paddle has to be more open (IE, your hurricane rubber is facing more towards your opponent than towards the ground below) when you initially engage the rubber. then you swing through and control the spin with your wrist and fingers by wrapping your paddle over the ball.

Finding the right initial angle will be your biggest adjustment, especially coming from tenergy where i felt like i had my paddle completely closed when i would loop balls. the paddle is still closed with hurricane, but definitely more open than with tenergy.

also, like another poster mentioned, from position 3, you need to open your paddle even more than when youre at 1 or 2. but still, you engage the rubber and finish the loop with wrapping your wrist over the ball to create a truly fast and spinny ball. the thing about hurricane is you will feel when you engage the sponge+rubber vs only the topsheet. with tenergy, its more difficult because the spring sponge and highly elastic rubber.

finally, i wanted to say, there is a chance you possibly over boosted your hurricane. You said two layers of seamoon, but 2 heavy layers vs 2 light layers could be a significant difference. i think the first time i boosted my hurricanes i actually used too much booster. there were consistency issues. when i put on my provincial rubbers i only used 2 light layers of booster...i tried to do just a tiny bit more booster on my 40d vs my 39d and they honestly play pretty similar because of that. i think going forward i'm going to get a little vial dropper to measure exactly how much booster i put into each rubber. this can at least control one portion of the boosting process. of course, as players, we have minimum control of the quality of the hurricane rubber......they say national has the highest quality control vs prov which has less vs commercial which has the least. I guess the one saving grace is that every hurricane ive played with has been VERY FUN! and since its my forehand, my strongest stroke, i can make the slight adjustments from rubber to rubber very quickly that overall, its still the best decision for me to play with hurricane.
I feel when I try to engage the sponge with H3 OS the ball has little to no spin.
I usually brush really fast with the tacky rubbers and then the ball goes deeper into the sponge by itself and I get a fast and spinny loop.
Could you tell how do you do a powerful shot with hurricane please?
 
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I feel when I try to engage the sponge with H3 OS the ball has little to no spin.
I usually brush really fast with the tacky rubbers and then the ball goes deeper into the sponge by itself and I get a fast and spinny loop.
Could you tell how do you do a powerful shot with hurricane please?
I use the same rubber, I have no problem getting spin with such a shot but to get good speed you need to swing really hard. Blue sponge is probably better with that.
So the short answer is swing harder.

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