Does Wang Chuqin deserve the No. 1 Spot in the 2024 Year-End Rankings?

[Tony's Table Tennis]

huh what do you mean

history will likely catch up to him again in the future

 

[Bollwerk]

Fzd only has 3 events contributing to his 4400, compared to all those of wang chuqin and Lin shidong. Plus all of WCQ has R32 points which eventually adds up

WCQ has 5500 points from his top 3 events. He also has 2 ZPP and the worst event counting for him atm is WC semifinal, not any R32.

 

[Bollwerk]

Where did you see that? WTT site didn't update with points from the Finals yet.

You can calculate it yourself, ranking point system is transparent and pretty simple

 

[Lazer]

He absolutely deserves it... Everybody has good times and bad times. WCQ obviously is coming out of his bad times.
LSD will have his time... Its coming You better duck...

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Yuomay]

You can calculate it yourself, ranking point system is transparent and pretty simple

The exact reason why the number one deserves to be there

 

[Dominikk85]

I think there really wasn't a clear #1. I think the year was like divided in 3 parts. Early WCQ dominated, then FZD and in the end lin shidong.

Lebrun was very consistent but he often lost like in the semi or the final and never really went all the way.

 

[zeio]

Doesn't matter. Weakest WR1, hands down.

Like LGL told XX right in his face back in early 2013, "other than being the World No. 1, you're nothing."

 

[rpb23]

Doesn't matter. Weakest WR1, hands down.

Like LGL told XX right in his face back in early 2013, "other than being the World No. 1, you're nothing."

What an asshole Liu was. Maybe in China there is no board line between verbal insult/abuse and motivation.

 

[zeio]

That's really nothing to write home about. LGL bashed ZJK next. IIRC, he once said ZJK's bold character needed to be coached with that attitude whereas ML's timid character called for the opposite.

XX even "reminisced" about it in a recent episode of 毛雪汪/Mao Xue Woof.

特别加更！EP73超长沉浸版：许昕爆料乒乓球队幕后！国乒队原来全员喜剧人？！ |《毛雪汪》EP73 PLUS #综艺 #许昕 #李雪琴 #毛不易
https://youtu.be/RMQwsSmSBT0?t=3512

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

WCQ has 5500 points from his top 3 events. He also has 2 ZPP and the worst event counting for him atm is WC semifinal, not any R32.

and he is the only WR1 to have 0-19

 

[Dominikk85]

What an asshole Liu was. Maybe in China there is no board line between verbal insult/abuse and motivation.

Didn't he slap a player in the face after losing a match many years ago?

 

[chrizzy]

and he is the only WR1 to have 0-19

what's 0-19

 

[chrizzy]

At a national match it was either Chinese Super league or team national championship where Wang Chuqin played Zhou Qihao who came back and won 19 points in a row to claim victory. Which is wild because Wang Chuqin even had the opportunity to talk to his coach/team

that's crazy

 

[zeio]

what's 0-19

The legendary CTTSL 2021 Playoff Final that earned WCQ the nickname 十九阿哥/Prince 19. There was also the MT F of China National Championships 2020. Both times WCQ lost to ZQH.

Along with WTTC 2022 and 2024, WCQ has since been tagged 團體蟲/literally "team maggot".

王楚钦大崩溃！单局被打11：0！周启豪连赢对手19分，创乒坛历史
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LIm4tRHGGk

王楚钦 VS 周启豪，男团决赛，北京 VS 广东，2020乒乓球全锦赛，Wang Chuqin vs Zhou Qihao, Beijing vs Guangdong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRfFogw_8EM

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

The new term is W32player
Wang (Round of 32 player)

It seems like some mental mountain for him to climb to be able to cement his "grand slam" position.
Granted, he still has age on his side
but LGY had never overcame similar mental issues, despite all the help he could get

 

[chrizzy]

The new term is W32player
Wang (Round of 32 player)

It seems like some mental mountain for him to climb to be able to cement his "grand slam" position.
Granted, he still has age on his side
but LGY had never overcame similar mental issues, despite all the help he could get

I really think wang would not get la2028 gold medal with Lin shidong in the way (if its an all china final) and brisbane2032 might be a little old for him + there's the maximum 2 singles per player in Chinese table tennis.

In the World championships there is chance for wang chuqin, only if there isn't fan zhendong and if he can beat Lin shidong, all the other Chinese players are too old, and the next generation of Chinese men players I know of are pretty mid compared to the last 2 generation of men. And there's also the rising talent of European players, Harimoto is steadily improving, so in my opinion, I don't see a grand slam occurring for wang chuqin

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I really think wang would not get la2028 gold medal with Lin shidong in the way (if its an all china final) and brisbane2032 might be a little old for him + there's the maximum 2 singles per player in Chinese table tennis.

In the World championships there is chance for wang chuqin, only if there isn't fan zhendong and if he can beat Lin shidong, all the other Chinese players are too old, and the next generation of Chinese men players I know of are pretty mid compared to the last 2 generation of men. And there's also the rising talent of European players, Harimoto is steadily improving, so in my opinion, I don't see a grand slam occurring for wang chuqin

and I think your view point has so many valid strength/points.
so +1

 

[PalioT]

I really think wang would not get la2028 gold medal with Lin shidong in the way (if its an all china final) and brisbane2032 might be a little old for him + there's the maximum 2 singles per player in Chinese table tennis.

In the World championships there is chance for wang chuqin, only if there isn't fan zhendong and if he can beat Lin shidong, all the other Chinese players are too old, and the next generation of Chinese men players I know of are pretty mid compared to the last 2 generation of men. And there's also the rising talent of European players, Harimoto is steadily improving, so in my opinion, I don't see a grand slam occurring for wang chuqin

LA28 is too far away but right now, WCQ seems better than the rest, in my opinion.
Just look at how he completely dominated Harimoto in the final! If he can maintain his motivation and mental stability, a Grand Slam is definitely within reach.

Lin SD is improving, though he may never reach the power and speed of Wang's forehand.

 

[NetProphet]

I really think wang would not get la2028 gold medal with Lin shidong in the way (if its an all china final) and brisbane2032 might be a little old for him + there's the maximum 2 singles per player in Chinese table tennis.

In the World championships there is chance for wang chuqin, only if there isn't fan zhendong and if he can beat Lin shidong, all the other Chinese players are too old, and the next generation of Chinese men players I know of are pretty mid compared to the last 2 generation of men. And there's also the rising talent of European players, Harimoto is steadily improving, so in my opinion, I don't see a grand slam occurring for wang chuqin

This seems to assume that WCQ has no room for improvement though, which I think he has.
I believe all of this will fortify him and mature him, he needs these scars to find his absolute best and real consistency again.
4 yrs is a long time and it's always a long shot to bet on any ONE player given the competition they face but if I had to pick ONE for LA 28 from all players now it would be WCQ. 🤷
It's a long wait ahead but let's see!

 

[banbekas]

LA28 is too far away but right now, WCQ seems better than the rest, in my opinion.
Just look at how he completely dominated Harimoto in the final! If he can maintain his motivation and mental stability, a Grand Slam is definitely within reach.

Lin SD is improving, though he may never reach the power and speed of Wang's forehand.

Well, defeating Harimoto isn't something to be proud of when you are WCQ. TH has always had trouble against WCQ out of all current CNT players. It's like Dima and Ma Long situation.