WTT Singapore Smash 2025 (30 Jan ~ 9 Feb 2025)

[NetProphet]

Does anyone else think Liang Jingukn is playing particularly well?

Of course the next round will show whether that's the case or not but right now I have him reaching the final...

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Looks like Hayata is trying to make zeio miserable. The Chinese had better right the ship or zeio's infamous Tieba users might all have a heart attack.

the match is probably blocked
a injured, career finished player, taking CNT front line players to end, and wining 63 points.

 

[Egon]

Despite the negative statistics of H2H between Lins, I will root for Lin Yun Ju and expect a miracle

 

[Egon]

Alexis LEBRUN will play the semifinal final against LIN

For him, this is already a huge achievement. He was lucky in this tournament - fate sent him two right-handers with a grip like his brother Felix. In the semi-finals, he has nothing to lose and can just play for his and our pleasure.

 

[NetProphet]

Even 11 points is way too fast sometimes. 7 is absolutely nuts. 15 seems like a happy middle ground between old and new format but completely opposite to what WTT is going for.

Personally I think 13 and 3 serves would work perfectly.
11 is only just too short I reckon so
15 would be a bit long.
Also, in ratio to the 21 and 5 (assuming that was OK) then 13 and 3 works perfectly.

 

[NetProphet]

Despite the negative statistics of H2H between Lins, I will root for Lin Yun Ju and expect a miracle

I think he can do it.
He is one of the few that are fast enough.
I think back to Ma Longs change of tactics and recovery from 0-3 v Lin Gaoyuan at last year's World Cup.
If LYJ can adapt and not rely on outright power then we could at least have a 7 setter! Otherwise I can see LSD altering LYJs sense of space, distance, and time! 😜

 

[Shine]

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It's just CNT design bro
She can't be that good.

 

[Shine]

ZYL is good enough to be in the CNT imo

but CNT doesn't work based on merits. But Shine thinks merits can make more outings for CNT?

I like to just name one recent player (at age 26, so young enough) - Fan Siqi,
She had only 1 WTT in 2024, and it was Beijing Smash and she made the semi final from qualifications. giving her win rate of playing 8, won 7, 88% win rate for 2024.
2023 she had 5 events, playing 20 and winning 16, a 80% win rate.
2022, 30 winning 25 @ 83%

In these win rate, beating CNT front line members (ahead of her), and making career high WR12 in the process is great merits in my humble opinion.

So when we ask, merits gets you into CNT front line team.... I'm afraid I know many players who says otherwise.

ZYL should recruit the ones that have merit, good enough, but simply not on the radar of Ma Lin and Wang Hao (or the big boss) and allow the players to have extended international careers

Have you asked Xiao Zhu if she's still interested in playing for CNT? Or it must just be the CNT plotting against her?
She knows the culture in the CNT for players over 30, there's no point joining the team at this rate especially for a CANCER SURVIVOR due to the intensity that it demands.
Macao most likely offer a better schedule and better benefits for her at this stage of her career.
These are all sensible reasons that any player would go for.
The same CTTA that you claim are against Xiao Zhu are the ones that gave her wildcards to kickstart her career from nowhere. Why would they help her if she's not in good terms with the CNT??

Surprisingly , you're also using one tournament to argue that fringe players should be given more opportunities than players who have consistently outdone others. Who in his right mind thinks this way? In which of Japan, Korea, Germany or Taiwan has this been done?

In case no one has told you, this allegation is stuff that'd be expected from some greenhorn at this sport who is devoid of knowledge and gleans his information from internet rumors.

If you want to whine, at least whine correctly and coherently.

 

[dingyibvs]

ZYL is good enough to be in the CNT imo

but CNT doesn't work based on merits. But Shine thinks merits can make more outings for CNT?

I like to just name one recent player (at age 26, so young enough) - Fan Siqi,
She had only 1 WTT in 2024, and it was Beijing Smash and she made the semi final from qualifications. giving her win rate of playing 8, won 7, 88% win rate for 2024.
2023 she had 5 events, playing 20 and winning 16, a 80% win rate.
2022, 30 winning 25 @ 83%

In these win rate, beating CNT front line members (ahead of her), and making career high WR12 in the process is great merits in my humble opinion.

So when we ask, merits gets you into CNT front line team.... I'm afraid I know many players who says otherwise.

ZYL should recruit the ones that have merit, good enough, but simply not on the radar of Ma Lin and Wang Hao (or the big boss) and allow the players to have extended international careers

ZYL hasn't won a single match against a CNT member since her comeback, losing to non-core players like Kuai Man and Wang Xiaotong. Good enough to be on the CNT? Sure. Good enough to represent the CNT regularly on the international circuit? No.

Did you ever consider what ZYL wants? Does she want to rejoin the CNT at age 30, train hard for a year or two just so she could maybe become good enough to play a Feeder event here and there for a couple years before she retires? If I were her I'd certainly join another association so I get to play in WTT events regularly and beat up on some non-CNT players.

 

[dingyibvs]

I think he can do it.
He is one of the few that are fast enough.
I think back to Ma Longs change of tactics and recovery from 0-3 v Lin Gaoyuan at last year's World Cup.
If LYJ can adapt and not rely on outright power then we could at least have a 7 setter! Otherwise I can see LSD altering LYJs sense of space, distance, and time! 😜

Tough loss for LYJ. He doesn't have enough variations in his game to beat LSD. LSD doesn't have much variations either, and that's a weakness that needs to be exploited. LYJ can only match him speed for speed, except he has less power, and that's just not a good match up.

 

[SFF_lib]

Lebron vs Lin will be very interesting

I can see some similarities between them:

1. Insane touch
2. Versatile play from distance
3. Brutal backhand

 

[NetProphet]

Tough loss for LYJ. He doesn't have enough variations in his game to beat LSD. LSD doesn't have much variations either, and that's a weakness that needs to be exploited. LYJ can only match him speed for speed, except he has less power, and that's just not a good match up.

I completely agree.
I was wondering if LYJ would come up with something different but he didn't have it. Redirecting LSDs power against him is the only way unless you can actually overpower him, like Felix did last yr for example.
Otherwise you're just hoping he has an off day but after he demolished the first set 11-2 you could see clearly tgst wasn't on the cards!

 

[nablaz]

Lebron vs Lin will be very interesting

I can see some similarities between them:

1. Insane touch
2. Versatile play from distance
3. Brutal backhand

I'm not sure a basketball player would fare very well against LSD, if he was entered as a wildcard in this tournament...

 

[Tempest/Comet]

Hayata lost all her strength in the final game.

“After my play-arm injury at Paris, I’ve been working towards recovery. In this tournament although there were instances where I applied what I acquired during recovery, it wasn’t complete or enough, and my deficiencies were all in tactical skills….
At this level, maintaining rallying is a must. Judgements in attack’s timing and rhythm are paramount. In these I made some wrong choices….

I hope one day I can say, it was because of this experience that I became stronger…”

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Have you asked Xiao Zhu if she's still interested in playing for CNT? Or it must just be the CNT plotting against her?
She knows the culture in the CNT for players over 30, there's no point joining the team at this rate especially for a CANCER SURVIVOR due to the intensity that it demands.
Macao most likely offer a better schedule and better benefits for her at this stage of her career.
These are all sensible reasons that any player would go for.
The same CTTA that you claim are against Xiao Zhu are the ones that gave her wildcards to kickstart her career from nowhere. Why would they help her if she's not in good terms with the CNT??

CM is out, and you think ZYL has a chance?
don't forget, so many of them were invited for Asian Cup, but denied by CTTA.
The Chinese fans are pissed.
out with the old, in with the new in the focus now.
But maybe CNT needs to change culture and have proper merit system - of which you state they have.... but now saying they have age culture and out with the merit, haha

Surprisingly , you're also using one tournament to argue that fringe players

For Fan Siqi she had more than 1 tournament.
When I bring out results, you say its just one tournament. HAHAHA

Why does she have one tournament? that is my whole argument here.
there is no merit system.
If there is merit system, Fan would play way more tournament, since she can beat CNT core players as well as top foreigners (in the past 2 years, she only lost to 1 non Chinese).

should be given more opportunities than players who have consistently outdone others. Who in his right mind thinks this way? In which of Japan, Korea, Germany or Taiwan has this been done?

who thinks this way? many countries are fair. like Japan, Korea, Germany and Taiwan. Enter non core players to play in feeders? so difficult? or no money??
CNT is the country with the least amount of WTT partipation in the top tiers, and you can't even argue there is no space for Fan to play.... there is lots of oppurtunities.

mind you Fan was WR12, due to her good results, but not good enough.
you think WR12 can't play for Japan, Korea, Germany, Taiwan and only have 1 tournament a year, which is in China and China can field dozens of players??

But when Fan comes out and wins core players, she goes home and back into sparing roles and sees no more tournament. So what is the purpose of what you say - get merits, and play more because CNT is fair?

In case no one has told you, this allegation is stuff that'd be expected from some greenhorn at this sport who is devoid of knowledge and gleans his information from internet rumors.

If you want to whine, at least whine correctly and coherently.

well, nobody have any idea who you are, or what you know, but I sure know a lot of people, including within CNT.
I atleast am helping Fan Siqi finding a league to play in, in Europe
So, tell me, who are you, and how are you involved with CNT players?

incase you have more excuse, here is Fan's results between 2023 and 2024, and I didn't bother copying them all.
Her win rate is super high, and that isn't good enough to play more than 6 tournaments in 2 years. No matter how you spin excuses about merit and they need to do better, the fact is, you are good enough, but you are not good enough in the eyes of the head coach.
If you dig deep (which I am sure you are afraid to do so), you will find this with many players. Yu is just 1 example and now Fan is the second. I'm not going to waste any more of my precious time on a fake user like you, who just trolls arounds and argues my facts are "internet rumors". Now I need to get back in help PROS players and league placement for next season.

WANG Yidi (CHN)

FAN Siqi (CHN)

WS

Main Draw

R64

2 - 3

9:11 9:11 11:7 11:7 7:11

FAN Siqi

FAN Siqi (CHN)

LI Yake (CHN)

WS

Qualification

QR16

3 - 0

11:8 11:8 12:10

FAN Siqi

FAN Siqi (CHN)

SHI Xunyao (CHN)

WS

Main Draw

SemiFinal

3 - 2

12:10 9:11 3:11 11:8 11:4

FAN Siqi

FAN Siqi (CHN)

ZHANG Rui (CHN)

WS

Main Draw

Final

4 - 3

6:11 5:11 11:5 11:7 11:9 7:11 11:5

FAN Siqi

LIU Weishan (CHN)

FAN Siqi (CHN)

WS

Main Draw

SemiFinal

1 - 3

11:2 9:11 3:11 11:13

FAN Siqi

KUAI Man (CHN)

FAN Siqi (CHN)

WS

Main Draw

R16

0 - 3

8:11 9:11 5:11

FAN Siqi

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Hayata lost all her strength in the final game.

“After my play-arm injury at Paris, I’ve been working towards recovery. In this tournament although there were instances where I applied what I acquired during recovery, it wasn’t complete or enough, and my deficiencies were all in tactical skills….
At this level, maintaining rallying is a must. Judgements in attack’s timing and rhythm are paramount. In these I made some wrong choices….

I hope one day I can say, it was because of this experience that I became stronger…”

Hayata has been away from the sport for a while, comes back and plays All Japan national champs non stop, and straight to Singapore, the sour fans just calls her injury is back when she looses one match, but I see that she is out of energy and doing damn good.

I can already say, Hayata is way stronger than prior to that injury.
She has also been a fighter and probably one of the better non Chinese players to take on China today - her trackrecord has been outstanding too, so huge respect to her.

Not to mention, not many players can fight through what she had, especially with the abuse from chinese fans during the past 6 months. Its crazy how much abuse can come from China towards Japanese players. It is just so wrong. You don't hear of Japanese fans abusing Koreans, or German against French....

 

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