Tired and Disappointed of Boosting Hurricane 3

[Tony's Table Tennis]

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Give it a try. It proved to instantly boost rubber performance without dimension swelling or shrinkage neither. Currently under study with China National Team.

while someone is under study
the rest just received they latest black oil shipment

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I actually also think Hurricane 3 is really annoying to boost and I've tried it before boosted and unboosted and even as a Chinese player, I didn't really like it.

boosting is so easy
I used to boost monthly, for years.
it is no different with changing rubbers monthly and gluing.

 

[lodro]

Could you ask your club mates why H3 is difficult to block? Is it the amount of top spin or the low arc?

I am also looking forward to the answer to this question.
It is my believe that good blocking is primarily a matter of technique and only secondarily of blade and rubbers.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

This looks like old cause I did lots of things on this but nothing succeed to make it spin again.
Tried dishwashing soap, wd40, baking soda. And try to wipe hard with cloth.
The arrow part, have stain which I think because of droplets of booster. Or maybe a cheap rubber cleaner.. 🥲😪
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This is the reason. Some of those things you did to make the topsheet not look so bad, ruined the topsheet.

A little booster accidentally put on the topsheet is not great. But it is nowhere near as bad as putting detergent or baking soda on the topsheet. Dish detergent causes the rubber molecules to oxidize which makes them less stretchy and less grippy. Baking soda also cause damage to the rubber molecules. Wiping hard with a cloth will damage the surface of the topsheet. You should not have done any of those things. Any of them separately are as bad or worse than accidentally putting a little booster oil on your topsheet. Add all of those things together, and it is time for a new sheet of H3. You cannot blame the rubber if you did all those things to the topsheet. Without doing those things, the rubber would be fine.

WD40 is the only thing on that list that is not super bad for the topsheet. It is just a little bad, but can have good effects short term.

Based on those things you put on the topsheet, you should own the issue, throw the rubber away and get a new sheet. It is not the rubber's fault you put so many things you should not have put on it.

But when you use H3, putting a protective sheet over it when you are not using it, actually helps the topsheet become more grippy, more sticky, more tacky. So, whatever else you do, if you use H3, but a plain plastic sheet (not a sticky sheet) on the topsheet when you are not playing.

If you put a tiny amount of baby oil or WD40 on that messed up sheet and put a plastic covering sheet on top of it and put it away for a month or two, the grip might come back. But you would have to leave it like that for quite a while. And it also might not work based on all the crazy things you put on the topsheet already.

All you need when you clean your rubber is a sponge that is slightly damp with plain water. I just put the water on my hand and clean my rubbers. Then you can make sure it is only a small amount of water. But a sponge works fine as well. You don't want to get the wood wet though. TT rubber cleaners are a gimmick. You don't need them. If you like them, that is fine. But they don't really do more than a little water on your hand or on a sponge.

I wish you good luck.

 

[ML fan]

Could you ask your club mates why H3 is difficult to block? Is it the amount of top spin or the low arc?

They say thay when it lands on the table, h3 seems do not bounce off,.just skids on the table

 

[ML fan]

This is the reason. Some of those things you did to make the topsheet not look so bad, ruined the topsheet.

A little booster accidentally put on the topsheet is not great. But it is nowhere near as bad as putting detergent or baking soda on the topsheet. Dish detergent causes the rubber molecules to oxidize which makes them less stretchy and less grippy. Baking soda also cause damage to the rubber molecules. Wiping hard with a cloth will damage the surface of the topsheet. You should not have done any of those things. Any of them separately are as bad or worse than accidentally putting a little booster oil on your topsheet. Add all of those things together, and it is time for a new sheet of H3. You cannot blame the rubber if you did all those things to the topsheet. Without doing those things, the rubber would be fine.

WD40 is the only thing on that list that is not super bad for the topsheet. It is just a little bad, but can have good effects short term.

Based on those things you put on the topsheet, you should own the issue, throw the rubber away and get a new sheet. It is not the rubber's fault you put so many things you should not have put on it.

But when you use H3, putting a protective sheet over it when you are not using it, actually helps the topsheet become more grippy, more sticky, more tacky. So, whatever else you do, if you use H3, but a plain plastic sheet (not a sticky sheet) on the topsheet when you are not playing.

If you put a tiny amount of baby oil or WD40 on that messed up sheet and put a plastic covering sheet on top of it and put it away for a month or two, the grip might come back. But you would have to leave it like that for quite a while. And it also might not work based on all the crazy things you put on the topsheet already.

All you need when you clean your rubber is a sponge that is slightly damp with plain water. I just put the water on my hand and clean my rubbers. Then you can make sure it is only a small amount of water. But a sponge works fine as well. You don't want to get the wood wet though. TT rubber cleaners are a gimmick. You don't need them. If you like them, that is fine. But they don't really do more than a little water on your hand or on a sponge.

I wish you good luck.

Thank you! But if there will be oil that came from my hands or skin, dirt or dust. How will I clean it? Cause I tried cleaning it with dish soap make it better. Thanks

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Thank you! But if there will be oil that came from my hands or skin, dirt or dust. How will I clean it? Cause I tried cleaning it with dish soap make it better. Thanks

Just use water. The chemicals in the dish detergent break the rubber molecules down and cause them to oxidize which causes them to lose their elasticity (ability to stretch) and their grippy quality that allows you to grab and spin the ball.

Don't worry about microscopic amounts of oil from your hands and from your sweat to your rubber. That is nowhere near as bad for the rubber as that detergent you are wanting to use.

It is also worth thinking about and understanding that a TT racket that looks old and beat up but plays really effing well for you is still better than a TT racket that looks shiny and pretty and does not work well for you. You want a racket that lets you spin the ball and keep the ball on the table. In the end, TT is about getting the ball on the table more than your opponent. If you can do that, you win the points. Nobody wins points because their rubbers look new and unused.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Could you ask your club mates why H3 is difficult to block? Is it the amount of top spin or the low arc?

sounds more like user error.
everyone I know, including me, can block with H3 perfectly.

 

[ML fan]

sounds more like user error.
everyone I know, including me, can block with H3 perfectly.

What I am saying, me using h3 is difficult for my opponent to block compared if I ise battle 2. Not difficult to block for the user but,.the top spin of h3 is difficult to.block on opponent
.

 

[ML fan]

Just use water. The chemicals in the dish detergent break the rubber molecules down and cause them to oxidize which causes them to lose their elasticity (ability to stretch) and their grippy quality that allows you to grab and spin the ball.

Don't worry about microscopic amounts of oil from your hands and from your sweat to your rubber. That is nowhere near as bad for the rubber as that detergent you are wanting to use.

It is also worth thinking about and understanding that a TT racket that looks old and beat up but plays really effing well for you is still better than a TT racket that looks shiny and pretty and does not work well for you. You want a racket that lets you spin the ball and keep the ball on the table. In the end, TT is about getting the ball on the table more than your opponent. If you can do that, you win the points. Nobody wins points because their rubbers look new and unused.

Thank you so much for this great information.

 

[Tyce]

As H3 user I think it's a combination of very high spin and much lower speed than the opponent anticipates. Even guys 3 leagues above me have significant trouble blocking my slow loops, especially when I land them short on the table.

 

[ML fan]

As H3 user I think it's a combination of very high spin and much lower speed than the opponent anticipates. Even guys 3 leagues above me have significant trouble blocking my slow loops, especially when I land them short on the table.

Yes. This is exactly what I am saying why I wanted to stay using H3. Hihi

 

[Azku]

Sanwei target national is good. Easier to access power than boosted H3. But away from table it’s not great.

I might try it eventually. For now I'm quite happy with Gear Hyper, and STN doesn't come in blue.

There are a few different versions of Sanwei Target nowadays. Are they markedly different?

 

[Azku]

After a week trying tenergy, I use my h3 back cause I really like the feel on contact with the tacky rubbers..

In the end it's all about personal preference.

 

[PenHoldSandro]

1 month after boosting H3 Prov BS 40deg, the ball slips, I am so disappointed since it is not cheap and I wanted to ditch H3.

maybe because of?
1. Overboost?
2. Accidentally drop a booster oil on topsheet?
3. Using of cheap rubber cleaner?

these 3 are the possible reasons, I think.

ditched H3, and tried tenergy 05.

And I really want the feel of tackiness of of the dhs h3, cause I got lots of points in service, push returns with heavy backspin, and 2nd ball and 3rd ball with slow spinny looping.
now, I am having a problem.
Looking for alternatives yet, based on users, no one can substitute boosted H3.

Can you enlighten me please?

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!

Just switch to another H3, like Nittaku Pro III Turbo or NEO. Those 2 are factory boosted (from what I remember)

 

[ML fan]

And also, when I boost, 1 layer glue, 3 layer of booster, then 2 layer of glue. After more than a month, if I want to reboost, it is so difficult to remove the glue.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

And also, when I boost, 1 layer glue, 3 layer of booster, then 2 layer of glue. After more than a month, if I want to reboost, it is so difficult to remove the glue.

since you are an ej, just use DHS no 15 glue

 

[lodro]

And also, when I boost, 1 layer glue, 3 layer of booster, then 2 layer of glue. After more than a month, if I want to reboost, it is so difficult to remove the glue.

difficult to remove the glue from what ??? The blade or the rubber ?

Well we told you that if you want to boost you should stick with the orange sponge 😂

 

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But of course you have your H3 on the FH and i can understand that you want the booster help there. I only use the unboosted H3 on the BH it is probably a 39/2.1 , quite hard but this works for me.

I am glad I found the R3pro because i can now have an unboosted forehand rubber too. Please don't tell anybody otherwise Loki will put the price up and make it less sticky.
Just got another one today and paid NZ$ 13.61

How good is loxi rxton 3 Pro in your opinion?

 

[lodro]

How good is loxi rxton 3 Pro in your opinion?

I am just a mediocre club player and in no way qualified to rank blades and rubbers.

So I am prepared to say that I like it a lot, play it on 2 different blades (DHS , Sanwei) and for the few dollars this rubber costs why not try it out.