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Alternative to Nittaku PK50 (and 8-80) ?
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Is it similar speed. When I tried K3 it was a lot faster. What I really like about PK50 is its hardness. It’s really nice one backhand as it’s supple and holds on the rubber.
Also K1 is not the cheapest.
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The worst part of k1 plus and Sieger pk50 is high spin sensitive but when you can and know how to read the spin you start to break the spin and this sticky topsheet start to be dangerous as Black hole to the spin and you cant live without the rubber with the same attributes because it breaks the rhythm and you can Play slow and see how your opponents didnt catch their tempo. Sometimes well trained players didnt care about my spin, but they know how use their speed and quality on the ball, but amateurs didnt like to Play with myself and always Ask what I use and they are shocked when I show them k1 plus and spk50
I'm about to try PK50 as my BH rubber, H3 neo FH.
With my durometer, I measure 45 degrees of hardness for the sponge, measured from the top sheet it's even less. So we are far from 50 as hardness.
Plus the back of the package reads:
"SIEGER PK50 emphasizes a high arc, due to the "S touch topsheet".
This topsheet enables you to attack even if you lose your balance or timing.
With your attack, aggressive pushing, or banana flip (Chiquita) you will be the victor!"
So Nittaku mentioning Chiquita seems to acknowledge that this rubber is particularly suited for BH.
With my durometer, I measure 45 degrees of hardness for the sponge, measured from the top sheet it's even less. So we are far from 50 as hardness.
Plus the back of the package reads:
"SIEGER PK50 emphasizes a high arc, due to the "S touch topsheet".
This topsheet enables you to attack even if you lose your balance or timing.
With your attack, aggressive pushing, or banana flip (Chiquita) you will be the victor!"
So Nittaku mentioning Chiquita seems to acknowledge that this rubber is particularly suited for BH.
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Most likely you are right and it is more suitable for backhand than for forehand. I tried it on forehand and for me it is too soft and has a high angle. For playing backhand it is better, although there are also disadvantages - not high speed, which in principle can be worked with, and high sensitivity to incoming spin.
The advantages for the backhand are the high angle and very reliable grip, allowing you to create strong spin and easily cope with the opponent's underspin. It is also cheap and durable. Weight 50 grams in a 151x158 mm cut.
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interesting - ive been using PK50 on and off for a while - but consistently for a little bit of time lately. When you say high sensitive to spin what do actually mean by that?
As I find it much easier to use on BH than D09C for instance or something that is more bouncy.
As I find it much easier to use on BH than D09C for instance or something that is more bouncy.
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I just tried PK50 as BH and I really liked it.
Going back to OP's request, for me Xiom Vega Euro H could be a candidate, I think it's a bit slower than PK50.
It's also sold as 45 degree of hardness but it feels a bit harder than that.
Going back to OP's request, for me Xiom Vega Euro H could be a candidate, I think it's a bit slower than PK50.
It's also sold as 45 degree of hardness but it feels a bit harder than that.
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Just came across the DHS PF4 on sale on AliExpress and bought two with "mid" hardness.
These are definitely as sticky as the old PK50 and have an even bigger dampening effect. In direct comparison to the h8-80 '39 the PF4 was more sticky and I could generate more spin on it with my backhand. I replaced the hurricane 8-80 on my backhand with the PF4 after in had tried the PF4 on my spare blade successfully already
These are definitely as sticky as the old PK50 and have an even bigger dampening effect. In direct comparison to the h8-80 '39 the PF4 was more sticky and I could generate more spin on it with my backhand. I replaced the hurricane 8-80 on my backhand with the PF4 after in had tried the PF4 on my spare blade successfully already
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Maybe Nexy Spira or Dr Neubauer Dominance Speed Hard can be good choice too but do you have pf4 or pf4-50? Where did you found H8-80 provincial with 39 degree?
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I found them on aliexpress. I have the regular pf4. The h8-80 is not provincial iirc. Unfortunately I don't have the package of it anymore.
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i just found the package of the h8-80 and it is 38 degree, sorry.
UPDATE:
i just found the package of the h8-80 and it is 38 degree, sorry.
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