Liang Jingkun signs with LOKI

[Egon]

Why wouldn't you grant Loki the same will to do high quality with their special blades?

I don't come across Loka blades that often, since it's a fairly new brand and our players haven't broken many blades yet . Everything is possible.

 

[ttarc]

If you take other brands out of this, do you have an example? I really don't know and I'm curious

Not 4x but Korbel made in Japan costs 84.90€ in Germany vs 44.90€ for the Korbel made in the EU. In Japan the official price is 6050 Yen incl. VAT or around 37.02€ for the Korbel Japan.
Outerforce ALC 109.90€ (16500 Yen or 101.46€ in Japan) vs. Viscaria 169.90€ (22000 Yen or 135.28€ in Japan) both made in Japan. Difference is ayous vs koto outer plies and a thicker core...

シェークハンド

www.butterfly.shop

 

[piligrim]

Do you really need me to find 2 blades with the same composition in Butterfly catalogue ? Innerforce and Outerforce have the same structure than 2 or 3x more expensive other blades.

Before you said 4x price, now 2 or 3x ))
What butterfly blade with same composition 4x or 3x more expensive then Innerforce?

 

[cerealKing]

I have to repair damaged blades. Often with torn off handles, even more often I remove the damaged handles, and I can see the quality of the workmanship from the inside. Without going into details, I can confirm that Butterfly blades, which are made in Japan, are truly of the highest manufacturing quality among serial blades.
It is difficult to say whether the prices correspond to this quality, since we do not know the cost price, which includes not only direct production costs, but also marketing costs, player sponsorships, etc.

Yup.

The cost per unit of each blade is probably nowhere near the price you pay for the blade.

A significant amount of that cost is going to be branding, marketing, RnD, player sponsorships etc.

Butterfly support A LOT of players all around the world at every level as well as tournaments and other events etc.

They also clearly do a lot to push TT gear forward, Tenergy, Dignics etc have been pretty significant products that are clearly high quality.

A lot of this could apply to other brands but I think Butterfly prices are understandable and clearly they have enough demand.

 

[Tyce]

Not 4x but Korbel made in Japan costs 84.90€ in Germany vs 44.90€ for the Korbel made in the EU. In Japan the official price is 6050 Yen incl. VAT or around 37.02€ for the Korbel Japan.
Outerforce ALC 109.90€ (16500 Yen or 101.46€ in Japan) vs. Viscaria 169.90€ (22000 Yen or 135.28€ in Japan) both made in Japan. Difference is ayous vs koto outer plies and a thicker core...

シェークハンド

www.butterfly.shop

Korbel EU vs Japan is as close to fair point as I can imagine. It's basically the same blade as it bears the same name.
If Loki indeed makes a better finished, better balanced version onto the market similar to Korbel, I stand corrected even if I still don't quite understand why you would introduce both of them at the same time.

 

[Grumms]

Before you said 4x price, now 2 or 3x ))
What butterfly blade with same composition 4x or 3x more expensive then Innerforce?

You changed the hypothesis by removing other brands. Yinhe Pro 01 is 8x less expensive than some similar Butterfly blades, and yet we never had the proof that Butterfly's were of better quality (and maybe they are).

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Branding it 'Harimoto' is the same than calling it Special. You have many Limba/Ayous/Whatever synthetic fiber/Ayous Blade with different price, based on no one knows what, just using stars names to increase the price.

For the player named versions of Butterfly blades, there are still clearly noted differences in head size, thickness, handle and wing shape, and maybe other things, even if the wood comps are all the same. So while the blades are similar construction wise, those things make a difference. And, every company charges a premium for name-branded equipment, not just DHS and Butterfly.

 

[Grumms]

For the player named versions of Butterfly blades, there are still clearly noted differences in head size, thickness, handle and wing shape, and maybe other things, even if the wood comps are all the same. So while the blades are similar construction wise, those things make a difference. And, every company charges a premium for name-branded equipment, not just DHS and Butterfly.

Again, how is it different from calling a blade Special and advertising it as better quality component made ?

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Again, how is it different from calling a blade Special and advertising it as better quality component made ?

Do they advertise it as "better quality component made"? If so, I wasn't aware. Do you have any example?

 

[Egon]

For the player named versions of Butterfly blades, there are still clearly noted differences in head size, thickness, handle and wing shape, and maybe other things, even if the wood comps are all the same. So while the blades are similar construction wise, those things make a difference. And, every company charges a premium for name-branded equipment, not just DHS and Butterfly.

You are absolutely right! Literally a couple of millimeters wider or narrower chord, +-0.1 mm in veneer thickness and it will be a completely different blade. And there are many other variables - the properties of the wood itself, different types of glues and artificial fibers, as well as the methods of weaving them, the pressing force, design of the handle etc.

 

[piligrim]

You changed the hypothesis by removing other brands. Yinhe Pro 01 is 8x less expensive than some similar Butterfly blades, and yet we never had the proof that Butterfly's were of better quality (and maybe they are).

You was comparing different butterfly blades since you mentioned Korbel japan and Korbel EU.
No wonder Yinhe blades cheaper then Butterfly.

 

[DG89]

 

[lodro]

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Some of the blades are """Featuring the classic Loki construction """" Now call me old- fashioned but Loki is much too young to use this term.
Most blades in this series (maybe all ??) are simply existing models with a new handle. Loki is known to do this 😂😂
I ain't falling for it😂

 

[Robin0910]

What we all want to know, does Liang Jingkun himself use this blade or his usual W968 with replaced handles? If he doesn’t use it, I’m not interested. It has no resale value.

 

[lodro]

If he doesn’t use it, I’m not interested. It has no resale value.

resale value ???? You mean as a collectors item ?????

 

[Colin Ksh]

For people in the states,it’s gonna cost around $145 for adc special with $35 shipping fee and delivery time would be 8-10 days. Based on Loki distributor for international customers(refer by Loki official)

 

[Colin Ksh]

 

[deepanmania]

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MOQ: 200 pieces
For now, it's only for sellers.

 

[Robin0910]

resale value ???? You mean as a collectors item ?????

possibly, or simply if I want to sell it people in Europe won’t buy it for a reasonable price because they don’t know Loki

 

[piligrim]

resale value ???? You mean as a collectors item ?????

If you won't like it wont be able to sell it