Suggestions for Genuine Budget Carbon Blades (ALC/ZLC Alternatives)?

[TensorBackhand]

https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/1005006018542123.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.6b097220uz4Lmx&algo_pvid=47e8b900-10d7-4f9b-9112-ab54fd304f40&algo_exp_id=47e8b900-10d7-4f9b-9112-ab54fd304f40-17&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%22312%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21PLN%2167.38%2152.53%21%21%21130.69%21101.89%21%40211b628117519123104111464ec56d%2112000044803286152%21sea%21PL%210%21ABX&curPageLogUid=QSi5Kd7alo2n&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A#nav-specification

From what I am seeing here, it is 160x152 mm ?

Cool, might be worth getting.

How would you describe its flex and responsiveness compared to Long5 or other blades

 

[Amaken23]

Cool, might be worth getting.

How would you describe its flex and responsiveness compared to Long5 or other blades

I am not knowledgable about that stuff to comment (never owned Long 5 or many ALC blades) but from what I've experienced so far, it is not too stuff and not too flexible. Comparing Blue to Yellow, Yellow is slower, more controllable while Blue is faster. Blue is really good even when far from the table with medium-hard rubbers and hard rubbers (I use DF Volant Phoenix 39 degrees and Yinhe Moon Mid-hard). Blocking is really good, controlled. Good feeling in hand when contacting the ball. You can see the difference if you do a faster, more powerful drive versus a slower, spinnier loop. Outer ALC speeds up the ball really nicely But as I said, I do not have much experience in reviewing blades.

 

[TensorBackhand]

I am not knowledgable about that stuff to comment (never owned Long 5 or many ALC blades) but from what I've experienced so far, it is not too stuff and not too flexible. Comparing Blue to Yellow, Yellow is slower, more controllable while Blue is faster. Blue is really good even when far from the table with medium-hard rubbers and hard rubbers (I use DF Volant Phoenix 39 degrees and Yinhe Moon Mid-hard). Blocking is really good, controlled. Good feeling in hand when contacting the ball. You can see the difference if you do a faster, more powerful drive versus a slower, spinnier loop. Outer ALC speeds up the ball really nicely But as I said, I do not have much experience in reviewing blades.

I think I have considered getting this blade before, but always passed because of how bad the design looks. But perhaps I should try it.

What is the difference between the yellow alc and yellow klc versions?

 

[impluse101]

I think I have considered getting this blade before, but always passed because of how bad the design looks. But perhaps I should try it.

What is the difference between the yellow alc and yellow klc versions?

+1 on this.

is it really yellow alc or klc?
I only have 2 yellow fibers they both are klc.

For OP @coolchap
if really cheap ZLC...how abt Huieson ZLC

 

[coolchap]

Any cheaper rubbers to go along with this carbon blades (Rather than usual Razka 7 or Nittaku G1 )? Looking for Medium hard for forehand and slightly softer than that on the backhand. Since I am planning to EJing a bit open to ideas on the rubber part as there were some nice suggestion on different blades.

 

[ttarc]

I think I have considered getting this blade before, but always passed because of how bad the design looks. But perhaps I should try it.

What is the difference between the yellow alc and yellow klc versions?

You could try the 729 Blue AD or Yellow AD https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006173367838.html with a different design

Any cheaper rubbers to go along with this carbon blades (Rather than usual Razka 7 or Nittaku G1 )? Looking for Medium hard for forehand and slightly softer than that on the backhand. Since I am planning to EJing a bit open to ideas on the rubber part as there were some nice suggestion on different blades.

729 blade with 729 rubbers?
729 Dragon F "mid hard" might feel a bit harder than G1 (tried that a long time ago), "mid soft" should be softer.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005220628851.html
The upgraded (different sponge) Dragon F Max https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008883308774.html are supposedly softer (haven't tried them yet) than their normal versions.

 

[coolchap]

It can be any other rubbers? Does not have to be 729. Mecury and Milkyway rubber or any other rubbers whichever will be good for all round game with with these carbon blades?

 

[ttarc]

Quite slow, tacky, light and soft (maybe around 40° ESN) 729 Phoenix 2 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006845862933.html

 

[golden_son]

If you're not married to Chinese sticky, AK47 Red (~47.5°) and Yellow (~45°)/Blue (~39-40°) are decent cheap rubbers with a little more speed. Mercury II and II Soft are even cheaper and slower if you want a more all-round game. Honestly if you're just EJ'ing and testing the blade(s), the Mercury II's are probably a good place to start.

 

[coolchap]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if I use slower rubbers on a fast carbon blade (like an OFF+ blade), wouldn't that balance out the overall speed and make the setup more like a medium-fast, all-round, or OFF- setup instead of a super-fast OFF+ setup?

 

[TensorBackhand]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if I use slower rubbers on a fast carbon blade (like an OFF+ blade), wouldn't that balance out the overall speed and make the setup more like a medium-fast, all-round, or OFF- setup instead of a super-fast OFF+ setup?

yes you can try to balance out a setup.

I often do this, put slower rubbers on my fastest blades

 

[shaksparov]

Hello my TT friends,


I'm currently playing with an all-wood blade, but I'm curious to try out the feel of carbon blades. I've been looking into some affordable options like Yinhe, Stuor, and Lemuria. However, most of these are only available on AliExpress, and it's hard to tell whether they are genuine products or just imitations of those brands.


Do you have any suggestions for reliable alternatives? Or can you recommend a trustworthy site or even AliExpress sellers where I can find authentic Yinhe, Stuor, Lemuria, or other brands that offer ALC or ZLC-like blades? Or going for the Standard Butterfly/Donic/Yasaka or other bigger names is recommended.

Thanks in advance!

– Coolchap

Try Yinhe V-14 Pro/Sanwei 75 Inner, 729 Blue Advance (Ad)

 

[vossi39]

I have ordered several times from Global Sports Store and have never been disappointed.
Another one is HWSport.

 

[1kaze]

Loki arthur zlc pro is very good

Sanwei 75 inner is great

Lemuria and Stuor have much more inconsistency and are hit or miss

You can get them from aliexpress

Hi, Need your help here, I have the Sanwei 75 Inner with Gear hyper on both sides.
Want to buy more faster setup now but with feel of dwell, speed and control.
I was eyeing in Stuor blades and saw good reviews for Stuor Zhang ZLC.
What do suggest blades and rubber?

 

[Ultravisitor]

Hi, Need your help here, I have the Sanwei 75 Inner with Gear hyper on both sides.
Want to buy more faster setup now but with feel of dwell, speed and control.
I was eyeing in Stuor blades and saw good reviews for Stuor Zhang ZLC.
What do suggest blades and rubber?

I'd try different rubbers first... sanwei 75 already pretty fast.
Stiga mantra pro are very good rubbers, I think they are better in all aspects than Gear Hyper. Maybe H hardness both sides

 

[dprsspins]

Hello my TT friends,


I'm currently playing with an all-wood blade, but I'm curious to try out the feel of carbon blades. I've been looking into some affordable options like Yinhe, Stuor, and Lemuria. However, most of these are only available on AliExpress, and it's hard to tell whether they are genuine products or just imitations of those brands.


Do you have any suggestions for reliable alternatives? Or can you recommend a trustworthy site or even AliExpress sellers where I can find authentic Yinhe, Stuor, Lemuria, or other brands that offer ALC or ZLC-like blades? Or going for the Standard Butterfly/Donic/Yasaka or other bigger names is recommended.

Thanks in advance!

– Coolchap

If you want an outer carbon blade : Yinhe Pro 01. I had one and love it, now my spare blade when I want to have more speed. Viscaria clone, tbh it doesnt replicate the 'feel' or 'feedback' of a Viscaria, but definitely replicates its performance. I feel that the Yinhe has more dwell and is more flexible, therefore the easier of the two to pick up and play. It is good with hard, tacky rubbers like Hurricane 3 Neo, Friendship B2, Yinhe Big Dipper V, OR middling speed tensors like Butterfly Rozena, Xiom Vega X, Fastarc G1. I generally stay away from super fast catapulty rubbers like T05 or Xiom Omega Tour on this blade (mainly my lack of skill), but go ahead if you know what your doing. Great blade, to the point where even if you can afford a viscaria, you should still check this one out. It might be marketed as a clone and is quite budget, but it has a soul of its own and can definitely compete.

If you want an inner carbon blade : SWORD Vsea Carbon. I dont have one but I tried a friend's one extensively with Xiom Vega X and Hurricane 3 Neo 37. I would say performance wise it highly mimics my Butterfly Ovtcharov Innerforce. At times it even gives me more control and confidence. I still prefer the feel and vibration feedback of a premium butterfly, but the Sword Vsea is pretty good. Possibly plays well with both chinese and tensor rubbers, maybe a little slower than my blade, but has good control.

If you buy these online, it is almost 100% going to be a genuine product. Most fake blades are those older, ultra famous butterfly blades anyways (mostly viscarias, FZD ALC, ZJK ALC).

 

[1kaze]

I'd try different rubbers first... sanwei 75 already pretty fast.
Stiga mantra pro are very good rubbers, I think they are better in all aspects than Gear Hyper. Maybe H hardness both sides

I have Rakza 7 and 7 soft, can try them? I was earlier playing with Sanwei V5 Pro and these rubbers.

 

[SpinToWinTT]

Whats the headsize of the inner?

I'm not sure about the inner, but the outer is 149 mm x 156 mm. Very good blade for the price.
I have uploaded a first impression video:

 

[deepanmania]

Loki w81 outer ALC is very good and comes cheap. Quality of the ply is so good.
Loki RxTon 7 pro is also cheap, an outer balsa carbon if you don't want a fast ply.

 

[zbys]

l bought 3 lemuria super zlc from aliexpress Lin juun ju safe to buy from them all weigh 84 gms and feel similar only the lemuria super zlc is the better gold super zlc sourced from japan costs more than the others costs differs the last one was 36 pounds uk v happy with the feel . l also have the xvt zlc jike handle the koto outer on this one is harder poss faster . l have a new one for sale