WTT Champions Japan 2025 - 7-11 Aug 2025

[Tony's Table Tennis]

tb said he doesn't believe in coaches

i'm guessing, he got into a maths fight with his ex coaches

 

[backspacer]

Top Chinese lose. What was wrong with them people ask instead of acknowledging the opponent that may have played better. Anyone can have a bad day. WCQ didn't.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

tb said he doesn't believe in coaches

i'm guessing, he got into a maths fight with his ex coaches

Who needs a coach when you can come back from a 6 month break and be almost beating 2150 players again within a few weeks despite only being a 1700-1800 player? Of course these are the 2150 players that never make it into the TB videos, we only get to see the 1500 backwards baseball cap opponents.

 

[PandaPawg]

nah. i’d rather see a much higher quality video from humble Pechpong than this boring Panda Xpress stuff

Honestly me too

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Who needs a coach when you can come back from a 6 month break and be almost beating 2150 players again within a few weeks despite only being a 1700-1800 player? Of course these are the 2150 players that never make it into the TB videos, we only get to see the 1500 backwards baseball cap opponents.

The coach/es need tb

 

[zeio]

Fun fact:
The winning streaks of WCQ and LSD have been interrupted by Harimoto.

我骰的27连胜被张本终结 (My Dice' 27-match [10 of which in CTTSL] winning streak was terminated by Harimoto)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9945881113

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Fun fact:
The winning streaks of WCQ and LSD have been interrupted by Harimoto.

我骰的27连胜被张本终结 (My Dice' 27-match [10 of which in CTTSL] winning streak was terminated by Harimoto)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9945881113

and facts is, HT has the most wins by far over WCQ and LSD among current non Chinese
so tb needs to face the fact that HT still remains a very respected number 1 opponent of CNT mens

 

[Egon]

I haven't followed all the messages in this thread, but for some reason I find it very unpleasant when a crowd attacks one person, this looks like bullying. This should not happen in a civilized world.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Top Chinese lose. What was wrong with them people ask instead of acknowledging the opponent that may have played better. Anyone can have a bad day. WCQ didn't.

if ht loose, it is his technique, and not able to change and blah blah
when he wins, the opponent has the bad day

I dislike HT, and I can't believe I need to stand up for him
if Hugo won, i'm sure there won't be excuses like the opponent having a bad day.

I think people are just taking the dislike of HT too personal. You need to separate personality and table tennis. HT did play a very smart match and he did win by strategy.

if he could do it without the screaming, even better.

 

[zeio]

Catching up on players' comments at WTT CS Yokohama 2025.

【卓球】張本智和が中国監督の態度を批判「もう少しリスペクトを」自国選手の敗戦時は目を合わさず
https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/08/10/kiji/20250810s00026000375000c.html?page=1
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/767b3e380dcdbe3d4fe010814042e150d6c51788/comments

　張本智は1回戦はオーストラリア選手、2回戦はスウェーデン選手が相手だったため、今大会で中国選手との対戦は準々決勝が初めてだった。試合後は通常、相手の選手や監督と握手を交わすが、中国の監督は目も合わさず、タッチを交わしてきたのみだった。

　このスポーツマンシップにもとる態度について、張本智は「相手はいつも負けたら、ちゃんと握手をしてくれないので。相手の監督が。（映像を）見てくれたら分かりますが、林詩棟戦で勝った時とか、今日のように勝った時は顔も合わせてくれないし。王楚欽に負けた時は、自信を持って握手してくれる」と“抗議”。

　続けて「もう少しリスペクトを持ってほしいなと思います。強いのは認めますけど、そういうのは良くないと思います」と語気を強めた。

卓球・張本智和が苦言「強いのは認めますけど…」　握手しない中国監督の態度に「もう少し敬意を」
https://the-ans.jp/news/566902/
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/7dd8c6ac012fb42e6c9f86265581b925c7dd5a21/comments

【卓球】強敵・向鵬撃破の裏で張本が語った“リスペクト”とルール運用への苦言
https://world-tt.com/blog/news/archives/289614
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/f07b9a74a72f7324ce8b711d32a5e9e6366c1e07/comments

コート外で感じた“リスペクト”の差
試合後、張本は相手チームの監督の振る舞いにも言及した。「相手の監督がぼくが勝った時には握手をしてくれない。林詩棟に勝ったときもしてくれなかった。でも王楚欽が勝ったときにはしてくれる。もう少し相手をリスペクトしてほしい」。
国際舞台でのエチケットや態度に対する率直な思いが、言葉に乗った。

メディカルタイムアウトへの持論
この日の張本は足に軽い痙攣を感じていたが、「できればメディカルは使いたくなかった（笑）」と苦笑い。
妹・美和の試合で起きた、長時間に及ぶメディカルタイムアウトについては表情を引き締め、以下のように応えた。
「勝つためには己を強くするしかない。ルールは守ってくれない。終わってから言っても……。でも見てて涙が出るくらい悔しかった」。
さらに制度運用の在り方にも踏み込む。「あそこはナショナルチームの中立なマッサーがやるべきだと思う。（コーチである）お父さんが美和のマッサージをやるのと同じですから。」

向鵬に勝利したことで、張本は改めてその存在感を示した。「どんな状況でも勝つんだ、オリンピックチャンピオンはどんな状況でも勝つ」。
ファンとともに戦った横浜の一夜を糧に、準決勝では過去の雪辱を晴らすためコートに立つ。（楊彩乃）

My Thoughts on Medical Timeouts
Harimoto felt slight cramps in his leg that day, but he said with a wry smile, "I would have preferred not to have called for a medical timeout (laughs)."
Regarding the lengthy medical timeout that occurred during his younger sister Miwa's match, he responded with a serious expression:
"The only way to win is to become stronger. They don't follow the rules. Even if I say it after the match... But watching it was so frustrating that I cried."
He also delved into how the system should be implemented. "I think that should be handled by an impartial masseur from the national team. It's the same as when her father (the coach) gives Miwa a massage."

With his victory over Xiang Peng, Harimoto once again demonstrated his presence. "Win no matter what the situation. Olympic champions win no matter what the situation."
Fueled by that night in Yokohama where he fought alongside his fans, Harimoto will take to the court in the semifinals to avenge his past defeat. (YO Ayano)

 

[GSpotSniper]

Yo this thread got wild lol.

lmfaooo im so lost actually

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

Hina posted this on X and other social media:

Thank you for your continued warm support.​

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We sincerely apologize for any concern caused by the medical timeout at the WTT Champions Yokohama. We also deeply apologize for the delay in providing an explanation, as it took time to confirm with the Japan Table Tennis Association.​

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We have received a variety of opinions, so let me explain the background to this.​

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In a match in July of this year, I experienced a symptom where my bones moved during play, causing pain and suddenly making it difficult to grip the racket properly. In preparation for this symptom, I consulted with Akira Nakazawa, head coach of the Japan Table Tennis Association's women's national team, before my second round match on Saturday, August 9th, about wanting to use the newly established WTT medical timeout (MTO) just in case, and about asking my team's trainer, Yusuke Oka, who is familiar with the symptoms, to treat me (by adjusting my joints and muscles). I received a response that there would be no problem with the newly established WTT medical timeout, technical timeout, or water break.​

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Because the injury was not visible, it was difficult to judge, which is why we obtained approval in advance. However, we believe that the opinion that third parties may question our neutrality is valid. For this reason, based on the unwritten custom of not having a coach in matches between Japanese players, and out of consideration for the opponent, we had a Japan Table Tennis Association staff member present during treatment, who confirmed that only pain and symptoms were checked and treatment was given, and that no advice on tactics or the like was given.​

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I received treatment during the WTT's new medical timeout rule, and I hope you will understand that this decision was made out of a sincere desire to continue the match. I understand that there are various opinions, but I sincerely ask that you refrain from making abusive comments regarding this matter. I will be more careful in my decisions and responses in the future, and will do my best to continue to receive your support. I would like to ask for your continued support.​

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August 29, 2025​

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Hina Hayata​

 

[zeio]

Were the rest of the team members informed about this ahead of time? Didn't seem so per Miwa. Either way, that's sneaky.

Regardless of the previous point, she planned for this "injury" ahead of time, which violated WTT's definition of MTO "for an emergency suspension of play due to an incident resulting in the player being temporarily incapacitated and not being able to continue play", as she could still play the previous point at 2:4 of G5 and it was not like she couldn't hold or swing her racket, same as the match against CY at US Smash 2025.

誹謗中傷のコメント/defamatory comments? People believed you abused the rule.

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

Were the rest of the team members informed about this ahead of time? Didn't seem so per Miwa. Either way, that's sneaky.

Regardless of the previous point, she planned for this "injury" ahead of time, which violated WTT's definition of MTO "for an emergency suspension of play due to an incident resulting in the player being temporarily incapacitated and not being able to continue play", as she could still play the previous point at 2:4 of G5 and it was not like she couldn't hold or swing her racket, same as the match against CY at US Smash 2025.

誹謗中傷のコメント/defamatory comments? People believed you abused the rule.

There was a WTT official standing right there to ensure the rules were followed. She cleared this with the JTTA and National Head Coach Nakazawa to make sure it's okay. It's fine to argue that the rule gives too long a timeout, but as written Hina did what she was supposed to do. The online bullying, however, is disgusting.

 

[zeio]

There was a WTT official standing right there to ensure the rules were followed. She cleared this with the JTTA and National Head Coach Nakazawa to make sure it's okay. It's fine to argue that the rule gives too long a timeout, but as written Hina did what she was supposed to do. The online bullying, however, is disgusting.

In case it wasn't obvious, the WTT official was "conned", so to speak. The fact that she didn't use it at US Smash 2025 when the exact same thing happened proves it (that she could still play on at WTT CS Yokohama 2025).

As I've always said (and why I always say it), you have many folks to convince here. Her action is disgusting. It takes two to tango.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...ll-play-for-another-4-years.35128/post-538716

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

There was a WTT official standing right there to ensure the rules were followed. She cleared this with the JTTA and National Head Coach Nakazawa to make sure it's okay. It's fine to argue that the rule gives too long a timeout, but as written Hina did what she was supposed to do. The online bullying, however, is disgusting.

its okay, tieba users only want to hurt Hayata.
her post on Instagram has over 11500 likes (on top of the 7.1k on X) and 300 comments in Japanese giving her their blessing.
this will keep tieba users quite busy for a while

 

[zeio]

its okay, tieba users only want to hurt Hayata.
her post on Instagram has over 11500 likes (on top of the 7.1k on X) and 300 comments in Japanese giving her their blessing.
this will keep tieba users quite busy for a while

Tieba users couldn't care less about Hayata in this case but worry about Miwa more. Blaming all of them without any substantiation is so typical of you.

The typical Japanese public uses Yahoo News instead and the dislikes and negative comments are in the thousands for the news articles of popular news agencies.