Butterfly Zyre 03

[NoSpin]

I never saw such different reviews of a rubber.. Thats really strange

 

[zeio]

Butterfly calls their thicker sponge + thinner topsheet a new technology, but Andro had the Ultramax Rasanter series out ages ago 😂

Ages ago would be the Andro Maxcell JMS and Super Sponge from 2004 but the topsheet for those models didn't last at all and the entire ESN generation died a quick death as a result. Rasanter Ultramax from 2017 is borderline false marketing by comparison.

 

[BobFL]

The same was said for MAX thickness when it first became available in the final decade of 38mm celluloid ball, where 2.0mm was the norm. When Bryce came out in 1997, it was labeled as unplayable and a few years later it was touted as the 神ラバー. Same for blades, where Viscaria was ahead of its time. As long as durability is decent, people will adapt eventually.

The Overall thickness is the same.
Just like 2.1. The sponge is thicker and the rubber layer is really thin.
2.7 is just another slick move from marketing dept.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Zyre03: The only rubber to let you go Super Saiyan mode all the time. Only USD 99.99. Call us now 1-300-DeZyre03

 

[Tyce]

Zyre03: The only rubber to let you go Super Saiyan mode all the time. Only USD 99.99. Call us now 1-300-DeZyre03

Imagine putting it on your thickest 1-ply
I'd love to see videos of that

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Imagine putting it on your thickest 1-ply
I'd love to see videos of that

Stop tempting me...

 

[Kopp]

TT brands did a great job fooling a lot of beginners and amateurs 😂

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

Zyre rubber preorders should be shipping out in US today... more reviews to come in a couple days.

 

[d3nium]

A friend of mine bought the rubber, he says it's insanely fast and can't control it. £90 down the toilet lol.

 

[NextLevel]

Best review i have seen so far. He actually discusses at length ehat he thinks will happen with the rubbers. Based on the review, it is unlikely I will be able to play naturally with it so it will be interesting. That said it does remind me of some rubbers that Nexy eas trying to make back in the day but it is just much faster

 

[NextLevel]

A friend of mine bought the rubber, he says it's insanely fast and can't control it. £90 down the toilet lol.

Yep, the review explains why. Dignics has a lot of ball holding, so I suspect most people who switch to this will be coming from a Tenergy rather than an 05 or 09c. It will reward people who read and play precise early, not people like me who like to wrap the ball and hold it forever.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Even the pros can’t handle it, so what chance do we have? 😂

Doesn’t make any difference, they still threw away the Zyre 03

You don't know it's that they "can't handle it" - many pros also like familiarity and at certain times of year might realize with new equipment that they can't afford the adjustment period that they need. Or maybe they could handle it and just didn't like the characteristics.

 

[doppelmoral]

went to my local butterfly store to try out the new zyre03
I tested it on an ovtcharov alc with d05 on the other side, a primorac jp, and a mizutani super zlc

so, when you are in a perfect position, create space, and go for a big fh bomba, this is probably the most fun you can get out of any rubber. and yes its very spinny. thats about it

the topsheet of zyre03 is really thin, even thinner than I thought. the rubber was so responsive, huge catapult and just flying all over the place. cant do any passive shots cuz the control sucks. of course the review is written from hobby player / amateur perspective. my serves pop up, passive blocks flew high. you have to play active all the time otherwise zyre03 makes no sense. honestly that is just not realistic for regular club players. for loops, medium power kiiind of works I guess because you can spin it and the catapult pushes the ball to the end of the table, but its not ideal.

in comparison, d05 on the other side of ovtcharov alc was pleasant to play, softer, easy to spin, nice arc. d05 you should also play actively but no problem if u go for some passive receives / blocks, might pop up a bit but you are still in the game.

cannot recommend zyre unless you have a super slow blade or you have great footwork and are approaching advanced level

 

[Kopp]

You don't know it's that they "can't handle it" - many pros also like familiarity and at certain times of year might realize with new equipment that they can't afford the adjustment period that they need. Or maybe they could handle it and just didn't like the characteristics.

Still sounds like they can't handle it 😂

 

[Frenchyping]

je suis allé dans mon magasin de papillons local pour essayer le nouveau zyre03
Je l'ai testé sur un ovtcharov alc avec d05 de l'autre côté, un primorac jp et un mizutani super zlc

alors, quand vous êtes dans une position parfaite, créez de l'espace et optez pour un gros fh bomba, c'est probablement le plus amusant que vous puissiez obtenir avec n'importe quel caoutchouc. c'est à peu près tout

la feuille supérieure du zyre03 est vraiment fine, encore plus fine que je ne le pensais. le caoutchouc était tellement réactif, une énorme catapulte et qui volait partout. je ne peux pas faire de coups passifs car le contrôle est nul. bien sûr, la critique est écrite du point de vue d'un joueur amateur. mes services surgissent, les blocs passifs volent haut. il faut jouer actif tout le temps sinon le zyre03 n'a aucun sens. honnêtement, ce n'est tout simplement pas réaliste pour les joueurs de club réguliers. les boucles for, la puissance moyenne fonctionnent en quelque sorte, je suppose, car vous pouvez le faire tourner et la catapulte pousse la balle jusqu'au bout de la table, mais ce n'est pas idéal.

en comparaison, d05 de l'autre côté de l'alc ovtcharov était agréable à jouer, plus doux, facile à faire tourner, bel arc. d05 vous devriez également jouer activement mais pas de problème si vous optez pour des réceptions / blocages passifs, cela pourrait apparaître un peu mais vous êtes toujours dans le jeu.

je ne peux pas recommander Zyre à moins que vous n'ayez une lame super lente ou que vous ayez un excellent jeu de jambes et que vous approchiez un niveau avancé

i agree, feel the same

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Still sounds like they can't handle it 😂

And you know this is the case how as opposed to them being able to handle it and simply thinking it wasn't a better fit for their game?

 

[doppelmoral]

went to my local butterfly store to try out the new zyre03
I tested it on an ovtcharov alc with d05 on the other side, a primorac jp, and a mizutani super zlc

so, when you are in a perfect position, create space, and go for a big fh bomba, this is probably the most fun you can get out of any rubber. and yes its very spinny. thats about it

the topsheet of zyre03 is really thin, even thinner than I thought. the rubber was so responsive, huge catapult and just flying all over the place. cant do any passive shots cuz the control sucks. of course the review is written from hobby player / amateur perspective. my serves pop up, passive blocks flew high. you have to play active all the time otherwise zyre03 makes no sense. honestly that is just not realistic for regular club players. for loops, medium power kiiind of works I guess because you can spin it and the catapult pushes the ball to the end of the table, but its not ideal.

in comparison, d05 on the other side of ovtcharov alc was pleasant to play, softer, easy to spin, nice arc. d05 you should also play actively but no problem if u go for some passive receives / blocks, might pop up a bit but you are still in the game.

cannot recommend zyre unless you have a super slow blade or you have great footwork and are approaching advanced level

I forgot to add, probably the best part about zyre is that after using it for 30+min and then when you go back to d05, d05 actually feels like a easy to play and balanced rubber lol

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Some dedicated Chinese users review Z03 on Bilibili. Some are pretty high level

2.7mm

1. Too fast even for FH, even faster than D05.
2. Not enough dwell time
3. Trajectory very long and flat, arc is too low, more errors vs D and T rubbers
4. Lifting backspin is more difficult than D rubbers due to extremely short dwell time
5. Rallies from away the table is great

2.5mm

1. Very comfortable on BH
2. Little dwell time - not sensitive to spin, good for blocking
3. Still very very fast, on par with D05
4. Very good for BH drive
5. Lifting backspin still a pain
6. Very light weight

In summary, many said it's not worth the price. You might as well settle with D05 (for speed) or D09C (for spin) for less money.

What is considered pretty high level? Because the information I'm getting from verifiably high level players (both at amateur and pro level) is that the arc is long but notably high, not flat, and that lifting backspin is a notable strength of it.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Just finished local tournament with Zyra03.
It is soooooo different from Dignics 05. I use 05 exclusively for the last 2 years.

I will be brief. I do not like at all. It lacks pretty much everything compared to D05. First and foremost the dynamics. It is a dead feeling rubber. Much less grip on the ball, much harder to create spin compared to D05. Less speed, less feeling around the net. Very very weird feeling rubber.

You're using a 44 degree Butterfly rubber on a stiff outer ALC blade, just curious what is your level?

 

[Tyce]

went to my local butterfly store to try out the new zyre03
I tested it on an ovtcharov alc with d05 on the other side, a primorac jp, and a mizutani super zlc

so, when you are in a perfect position, create space, and go for a big fh bomba, this is probably the most fun you can get out of any rubber. and yes its very spinny. thats about it

the topsheet of zyre03 is really thin, even thinner than I thought. the rubber was so responsive, huge catapult and just flying all over the place. cant do any passive shots cuz the control sucks. of course the review is written from hobby player / amateur perspective. my serves pop up, passive blocks flew high. you have to play active all the time otherwise zyre03 makes no sense. honestly that is just not realistic for regular club players. for loops, medium power kiiind of works I guess because you can spin it and the catapult pushes the ball to the end of the table, but its not ideal.

in comparison, d05 on the other side of ovtcharov alc was pleasant to play, softer, easy to spin, nice arc. d05 you should also play actively but no problem if u go for some passive receives / blocks, might pop up a bit but you are still in the game.

cannot recommend zyre unless you have a super slow blade or you have great footwork and are approaching advanced level

So basically, Butterfly managed to reach the opposite end of the usable spectrum, compared to unboosted Chinese rubbers.
You have to be very active and in place to use both well, but where Zyre03 makes for a perfect high-catapult speed rubber H3 is a perfect spinning rubber.

Very interested to see how this will develop over the years. I never thought I would use carbon blades, or Tenergy, but those both seem like good options nowadays even with my technical level barely changed.

Zyre03 might also be really fun on those large balls they use in Japan