Butterfly Zyre 03

[Kopp]

Butterfly is watching 👀 Bet they’ll ship a few to @Dan for a TTD review any day now 😂

 

[thot]

today hit the buy icon for two sheets of Dignics 05 because of its price drop @ USD 53.50 / Euro 45.50 inc shipping. One Zyre03 can buy two sheets of Dignics 05.

Where did you find it at this price?

 

[kindof99]

Not sure what your question is. I loop with 05 and 80 and arguably if you have a full loop, 05 might have more quality but the trajectory of 80 is usually lower and faster. So with 80 I can hit the ball past my opponent a little easier than I can with 05. There is a reason some players like 80 and 64 more, obviously the current top players focus on their short push and ability to open over the table and even with all that there was always Mizutani. But I also know players who switched back drom Dignics to Tenergy because they just found it easier to get the ball moving. There are no single correct answers in table tennis, especially at the lower levels.

D05 might be slightly slower than D80, but it is definitely still among the fastest rubber for strong strikes. I think most people don't agree with you point just because you need to compare it with D80 to say it is slow.

 

[Snek]

Vietnamese site has Zyre 03 at the price of 68€
Perfect time to go on a holiday to east asia

 

[Tyce]

Vietnamese site has Zyre 03 at the price of 68€
Perfect time to go on a holiday to east asia

This site also sells Frankenstein Dignics https://phobongban.vn/san-pham/mat-vot-cu-dignics-ghep/

 

[NextLevel]

D05 might be slightly slower than D80, but it is definitely still among the fastest rubber for strong strikes. I think most people don't agree with you point just because you need to compare it with D80 to say it is slow.

The original reviews on TTD as to why many players didn't want to put Dignics 05 on their forehand are still out there - I didn't make it up so you can hear other people say that they found D05 slow relative to Tenergy 05 (usually in ball release, defenders of Dignics usually talk about the after-the-bounce kick). TTD Dan didn't put it on his forehand, Timo didn't put it on his forehand either until he was close to retirement and tired of using 09c. It was a backhand rubber for many players initially, they preferred Tenergy speed on the forehand. While 09c was slower, the spin and short game was supposed to be the trade off. I have a coach who still finds the ball holding of D05 slow, he left D05 for T05, he was the one that convinced me to leave 09c initially for non-sticky rubber, and when I tested 05 and 80 against him, he liked my 80 ball the best and I have been using it ever since.

That's why I go back to saying we all do this differently, @sebi at least has tried 05 and 80 so I give him the respect of person experience, would love to see him play. Other people will often make statements without having tried the rubbers or even talked to other players about what they have used and why.

I played the whole of NA Teams in 2024 with Viscaria SALC with D05. I played the Butterfly Teams in 2025 with the same blade and D80. My results were not that different. The main reason I went to 80 again (I had tried it on a slower blade initially and thought it was too quick for a Viscaria SALC ) was because I prefer the passive blocking by a huge margin. It makes it easier for my passive touch to take over when I feel rushed where I would just block the ball into the sky with 05.

 

[ToH]

TT11 got D 80 for 64 euro. Probably older sheets

https://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/butterfly-dignics-80

 

[NextLevel]

TT11 got D 80 for 64 euro. Probably older sheets

https://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/butterfly-dignics-80

Can't buy that outside Estonia.

 

[tzifos]

TT11 got D 80 for 64 euro. Probably older sheets

https://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/butterfly-dignics-80

Nope.....

it's the normal price if you add the VAT

 

[piligrim]

Samson Dubina used G1 pretty much forever (unless he switched to P1).

There is one guy 2000 USATT using Mark V ))

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

There is one guy 2000 USATT using Mark V ))

I bet he is a legendary unker.

NB: Unker is a colloquial term where it is equivalent to boomer in the US context.

 

[NextLevel]

There is one guy 2000 USATT using Mark V ))

Likely more than one. Richard Dewitt has used it forever. He doesn't normally topspin though.

 

[piligrim]

Likely more than one. Richard Dewitt has used it forever. He doesn't normally topspin though.

This is who I was talking about

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Where did you find it at this price?

Shopee.com

Direct from Japan.

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

consumers were very responsible, selling out the 2.5mm variants first.

 

[NextLevel]

consumers were very responsible, selling out the 2.5mm variants first.

More likely they expected a higher demand for 2.7mm and produced less 2.5mm leading to it selling out at lower volume.

 

[NextLevel]

BTW, my pusher said that Zyre 03 is being shipped to him so I should have it to hit with sometime this weekend.

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

More likely they expected a higher demand for 2.7mm and produced less 2.5mm leading to it selling out at lower volume.

control-conscious consumers vs bomba-based butterfly

 

[iamice]

My dude you read that wrong. Its the same arc as Dignic 09c, more spin than 09c and more speed than Dignics 05.
My excitement died when i saw the high arc and sponge hardness. Was wishing for a softer Dignics 05 but got a non tacky and faster 09c.

So 09C is tackier than Zyre03?

 

[zeio]

The test itself is quite trivial, and it’s impossible to draw any meaningful conclusion because it doesn’t take into account one critically important variable — the incoming ball’s energy, speed, and spin.

In my opinion, the D05 is clearly a class faster than the T05. The only requirement is to properly activate the sponge, whose maximum speed is, without question, higher than that of the T05.

I also agree with the assessment that the Z03 is less sensitive to incoming spin and bites the ball less at low and medium speeds.

I've written multiple times on the limitations of those tests, but they do help clarify the relationships between different variables. Like Butterfly stated (2nd last TTD link below), having a "common measuring rod" is better than having one player tell one thing and another tell another thing.

The "incoming ball's energy, speed, and spin" are taken into account in the various tests, but are only representative of the low range, roughly the equivalent of a no-spin push to a counterhit in warmup. The Butterfly testbed also tests and compares engineering samples at a low speed and spin setting (last MyTT link below), despite being capable of testing at higher speed and spin. For that reason, it's totally possible D05 has a higher top end speed and spin than T05, as indicated by the ratings in Butterfly catalog.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...t-of-different-rubber-types.33252/post-448572
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/what’s-not-good-with-rozena.30787/post-401677
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/tackiness-versus-grippiness.26131/post-355816
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/tibhar-evolution-ventus-equivalent.25317/post-346105
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...ider-superior-to-tenergy-05.25284/post-345925
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/dwell-time.19384/post-326015
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...r-be-slower-than-a-soft-one.22699/post-304838

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/foru...le=what-is-the-deal-with-blades-really#996198
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/foru...&title=expressing-relative-blade-speed#989590
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/foru...73&title=control-ratings-for-equipment#778873