Is it unfair to say “yes”/“cho” when the opponent makes an error?

[d3nium]

So having passion for the game is restricted to professionals?

You can have passion for the game without shouting after every point.

 

[NextLevel]

You can have passion for the game without shouting after every point.

You can have more passion for the game shouting after every point as well. It depends on the individual.

 

[songdavid98]

You can have more passion for the game shouting after every point as well. It depends on the individual.

Very passionate at 4:35

 

[d3nium]

You can have more passion for the game shouting after every point as well. It depends on the individual.

Yeah i guess so, but IMHO it just comes across as mega cringe.

Maybe its a bit of a culture thing. In my neck of the woods, people generally don't appreciate that kind of nonsense

 

[thisisit]

So having passion for the game is restricted to professionals?

the overt expression of passion is not the same thing as passion.

 

[NextLevel]

Yeah i guess so, but IMHO it just comes across as mega cringe.

Maybe its a bit of a culture thing. In my neck of the woods, people generally don't appreciate that kind of nonsense

Preaching to the choir here, go preach to Harimoto and we can compare notes after lol...

 

[NextLevel]

the overt expression of passion is not the same thing as passion.

That's debatable - how sad can you really be without being crestfallen or tear ridden? Biological emotions often have a basis in physical behavior and silence is not usually seen as conveying more emotion than noise.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

the overt expression of passion is not the same thing as passion.

Overt to you might not be overt to me, who is right?

 

[thisisit]

That's debatable - how sad can you really be without being crestfallen or tear ridden? Biological emotions often have a basis in physical behavior and silence is not usually seen as conveying more emotion than noise.

it might be debatable, but from what you wrote, you are definitely not debating it.

 

[thisisit]

Overt to you might not be overt to me, who is right?

ah, the internet.

 

[NextLevel]

it might be debatable, but from what you wrote, you are definitely not debating it.

Yes, it's because I think you are wrong, but can use philosophical skepticism to deny what common sense traditional believes, so I grant that one can't argue subjective valuation but if you asked most people, they would side with me not you lol. There is a reason why people find Harimoto and Truls more mentally strong players than Lin Yun Ju and Sora Matsushima and I struggle to believe it is tied to their quality of play. Timo also got louder as his career went on as well.

 

[NextLevel]

ah, the internet.

Proving my point precisely.

 

[NextLevel]

Overt to you might not be overt to me, who is right?

You ask a question to expose a line of inquiry and the response tells you everything you need to know about how the discussion will be treated.

 

[Ninja26Go]

Bad advice. In most lower level leagues the umpire is just another player who have to sit there as most of the matches don't have dedicated umpires. You will get away with a lot more disrespectful behavior than you should.

No as in international WTT matches

 

[ThePongCommenter]

ah, the internet.

Yeah, you are indeed posting on the internet. Did you have anything to add about what the universally acceptable amount of celebration is in table tennis?

 

[zeio]

Your opponent is weak according to Liu Guoliang.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...srespectful-to-the-opponent.24405/post-329257

 

[ThePongCommenter]

tt is a zero sum game. every won point comes at the expense of a lost point for the other side. so whenever things go good for you(win a point), you are understandably happy. that exact situation is for the opponent a bad thing(he lost a point) and he is understandably unhappy.

expressing yourself very overtly for a thing that makes you happy and at the same time makes your opponent unhappy can, also understandably, lead to more unhappiness for the later.

people who are more empathic are more susceptible to being hurt by a cho-ing opponent, because they never or almost never do it to their opponents because they don't want to cause more, of what they believe to be unfair, unhappiness for them.

imo, cho-ing and the like should be punished by tt rules. some people don't care about it, but for some, it really messes with their game.

also, sometimes you hear defenders of cho-ing say something like "but this is just how i express myself". an argument which is obviously flawed. for example, if one would send dickpics to the cho-ing person's daughter after they would win a point against them and say "but this is just how i express myself", the cho-ing person wouldn't take it very well probably.

Highly empathetic people, while nice, can't always get along well in competitive environments like athletics, professional or amateur. Your problem is less about TT and more about how people that you are defending can navigate any competitive environment.

 

[NextLevel]

Your opponent is weak according to Liu Guoliang.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...srespectful-to-the-opponent.24405/post-329257

He was one of the primary accelerators of the new culture. He actively encouraged his team to do it.

 

[PoppaChubby]

When it happens on a match point, it's all good to cho !

It happened to me many times, the one that I remember: my opponent was my 11th grade teacher in litterature when I was in high school. He was a dick, even his son I played with regularly at college/uni told me he could be rude sometimes. His son was way more nice, a really cool guy, and WAY better at TT than his father.

Anyways, FFTT team league championships in Regionale 4 in the mid 90's, 6 players/team, 3 single matches to play for everyone plus 2 extra double matches for 4 of the players, 20 matches to play so, a W=1 pt, so it could lead to draws at 10-10. It was 10-9 for us, 20-19 match ball for me in the decider and he had to serve... he choked and didn't even touch the ball, the toss went... down on the floor.

OF COURSE I CHOED !! AND A BIG ONE CHOOOO !!!

Anyways, I had my Bac Français with extra points for the year after at the last year baccalauréat final exams. Maybe being a dick and rude helped me giving my best at that exam, who knows ! but seriously, that day I met him at the table, I choed everything I could, I was ready for war because I still had in my head all that rudeness he threw to us 11th graders

 

[Yuomay]

In a tense moment à little “cho” or “yes” is just pressure released. Nothing to worry about.

Also I often say to myself (softly) something like, pfew he missed. If my opponent misses an absolute sitter.

Also when I do btw