ITTF World Youth Championships 2025, Cluj Napoca, 11/23-30

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luckily in doubles, individual stats is not the key, but rather the pairs strategy and ability to deliver.

I recall, some of the best doubles players I know are not the strongest in singles.

and that is why I prefer watching doubles over singles, as there is always a chance any side can win.

I disagree, there is no single key in doubles. It is after the match one can give an explanation. Having the best player can be very important because they expand the options for their partner. However, if their partner is also the worst player, it puts pressure on the best player to cover for them. Combining players whonhavent practiced together much is often a matter of luck and not into watching luck. But seasoned teams can be okay.

 

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So India pulls it out after being down match point. Sometimes I wonder whether Ankur has a fundamental belief in his stability or whether there is some internal coaching that encourages high risk flat shots in his game....

 

[zeio]

An article on the background of Yao Ruixuan from 2025 Volume 1 of Table Tennis World.

姚睿轩：朝着心中的大梦想笃定前行 | 新面孔 (Yao Ruixuan: Steadfastly Moving Towards Her Big Dream | New Face)
https://news.qq.com/rain/a/20250228A07N9300

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I disagree, there is no single key in doubles. It is after the match one can give an explanation. Having the best player can be very important because they expand the options for their partner. However, if their partner is also the worst player, it puts pressure on the best player to cover for them. Combining players whonhavent practiced together much is often a matter of luck and not into watching luck. But seasoned teams can be okay.

There are just so many doubles champions that didnt get the same accolades in singles.
You welcome to go check it out.

And just to be on point, we talking about pros. To suggest they havent practice together means you probably not talking about pros?

 

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There are just so many doubles champions that didnt get the same accolades in singles.
You welcome to go check it out.

And just to be on point, we talking about pros. To suggest they havent practice together means you probably not talking about pros?

Depends. Do pros who register for doubles and get ITTF/WTT to assign partners at the tournament practice together?

 

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Thailand too strong for US. They clinch at least a bronze medal. The Thail girl was probably bigger than their male player. Made Irene's lack of size stand out. She (Thai girl) was tall and powerful enough to open on anything that landed short with her backhand. Congrats to Thailand.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Depends. Do pros who register for doubles and get ITTF/WTT to assign partners at the tournament practice together?

if you are talking about some of the mix pairs going on, they have been mixing for a while.
many players also know each other well, and they would also train together during certain trips or visits.

ie Mia with Anna or Sally with Kheith

many of these mix pairs are probably registered up front already and for those that don't have partner, ITTF/WTT doesn't assign straight away. There is a list of unassigned players and it is for each manager to contact the other manger and get the pairing sorted.
I have had foreign coaches calling me and asking if I can help arrange these mixing too.

But this mix pair is recent years tradition, as they have since limit same MA doubles entries.

With my previous posts, I am talking about doubles specialist, and they are very good in doubles, and not that strong in singles.
ie Qin Zhijian or Chen Qi.

for Taiwan, we have achieved so many doubles medals, but not many singles medals, and this is from world champs to olympics. Chen Chien-An is an example. His forehand in doubles is a threat, his forehand in singles is not.

Doubles is a different sport and I am glad it is back at the olympics.

 

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if you are talking about some of the mix pairs going on, they have been mixing for a while.
many players also know each other well, and they would also train together during certain trips or visits.

ie Mia with Anna or Sally with Kheith

many of these mix pairs are probably registered up front already and for those that don't have partner, ITTF/WTT doesn't assign straight away. There is a list of unassigned players and it is for each manager to contact the other manger and get the pairing sorted.
I have had foreign coaches calling me and asking if I can help arrange these mixing too.

But this mix pair is recent years tradition, as they have since limit same MA doubles entries.

With my previous posts, I am talking about doubles specialist, and they are very good in doubles, and not that strong in singles.
ie Qin Zhijian or Chen Qi.

for Taiwan, we have achieved so many doubles medals, but not many singles medals, and this is from world champs to olympics. Chen Chien-An is an example. His forehand in doubles is a threat, his forehand in singles is not.

Doubles is a different sport and I am glad it is back at the olympics.

I gave a specific example. There are pairs of players who register without partners and meet at the tournament. Are you claiming such players do not exist at the pro level, have always trained together for doubles and that I am making it up?

Its not hard to just say in my specific example I am correct.

 

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BTW mixed pairs were extremely common in the 80s, were unpopular for a while and then brought back. They have never been a recent years tradition. In fact some great doubles pairings in European countries have been mixed pairs from Slavic countries.

Of course there are players who play very well in doubles for various reasons, lefties have advantages for a few reasons. But none of that affects anything I said in particular. Those players were all strong players and they usually played with doubles partners that were often the strongest players at the table if they themselves were not.

 

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U15XD R16
Jonas Rinderer/Joesphina Neumann 1-3 Lee Hong An/Mohd Dania (5, -6, -7, -3)

U15XT QF
Chen Kai-Cheng/Lin Wan-Rong 2-3 Lee Hong An/Mohd Dania (-9, -7, 8, 6, -8)

Their days of being also-ran/human punching bag are numbered?

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...s-2025-bhubaneswar-10-11-15.37489/post-545355

Rise of South East Asia? The undercurrent has been growing stronger and stronger with every Olympic cycle.

WT 9th-10th
MAS 2-3 TPE
Chang Li Sian 3-0 Tsai Yun-En (11, 10, 7)
Ho Ying 1-3 Li Yu-Jhun (-7, -9, 11, -9)
LI Ying Im 0-3 Huang Yu-Chiao (-9, -11, -9)
Chang Li Sian 3-1 Li Yu-Jhun (-6, 6, 7, 7)
Ho Ying 0-3 Tsai Yun-En (-7, -7, -8)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...star-contender-october-2025.35858/post-547016

AUS players are lucky South East Asia is not part of their region...

MS R64
Wong Qi Shen 3-2 Sareen (-10, 6, -6, 6, 8)

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I gave a specific example. There are pairs of players who register without partners and meet at the tournament. Are you claiming such players do not exist at the pro level, have always trained together for doubles and that I am making it up?

Its not hard to just say in my specific example I am correct.

i'm not sure why you keep going non stop
its so tiring to talk with you.

you will get those small countries players that have no partners.
but I am talking about double specialist and if you have no clue about it, you can come and I will show you some players that only train doubles year round.

you don't have to pretend you know everything, its okay to accept new things.

 

[NextLevel]

i'm not sure why you keep going non stop
its so tiring to talk with you.

you will get those small countries players that have no partners.
but I am talking about double specialist and if you have no clue about it, you can come and I will show you some players that only train doubles year round.

you don't have to pretend you know everything, its okay to accept new things.

I don't pretend I know everything but you dont havw to respond to me to explain things I usually already know. Wrire your own post about it. It doesnt have to be a reply to me.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I don't pretend I know everything but you dont havw to respond to me to explain things I usually already know. Wrire your own post about it. It doesnt have to be a reply to me.

but your thought is flawed

you said a strong single player (referring to Ankur)
and I said, you should not look at strong single player, as strong single players doesn't mean they play double well.

This should be something even an amateur club coach knows.
but any ways, you not a coach, so why should I expect you to understand. I shouldn't
so i'm letting it go.

PS Kanak himself told me he hates doubles and he is terrible in it.

 

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but your thought is flawed

you said a strong single player (referring to Ankur)
and I said, you should not look at strong single player, as strong single players doesn't mean they play double well.

This should be something even an amateur club coach knows.
but any ways, you not a coach, so why should I expect you to understand. I shouldn't
so i'm letting it go.

PS Kanak himself told me he hates doubles and he is terrible in it.

Okay. I will find the response that *you* gave me when I last wrote that Kanak has an issue with doubles (which is why he doesn't play XD) another time and rather than straightforwardly agreeing, you posted he had good results in UTT league which would further support my main point. I will also explain that having the best player usually has an effect if the player is significantly better than other players, even when the player is supposedly not good at doubles. But all another time.

Right now I want to focus this thread on the WJTTC.

 

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Having Abiodun and Chirita, who are also Ochsenhausen teammates and play doubles sometimes there play this event in doubles is almost cheating lol... but let's see how far they go...

 

[zeio]

U19GD QF
Griesel/Hursey 3-0 Aoki/Ojio Y. (11, 9, 12)
Not meant to be...

 

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Hursey guarantees two medals for the UK with her performances in XD and WD. Congrats!

 

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Thailand always makes me have to learn to spell the most interesting names. Latest one: Kulpassr Vijitviriyagul. Beating a Chinese team in doubles is never easy but they have done it.

 

[zeio]

U15XD SF
Zhou Guanhong/Liu Ziling 2-3 Thitaphat Preechayan/Kulapassr Vijitviriyagul (9, -9, 8, -6, -2)
G4 55, 510, 611
The CNT pair didn't handle the receiving well especially starting from the middlegame of G4.

Lee Hong An/Mohd Dania 1-3 Yu Haiyang/Zhu Qihui (-8, 9, -4, -8)

U15XT QF
Chen Kai-Cheng/Lin Wan-Rong 2-3 Lee Hong An/Mohd Dania (-9, -7, 8, 6, -8)

Their days of being also-ran/human punching bag are numbered?

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...s-2025-bhubaneswar-10-11-15.37489/post-545355


https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...star-contender-october-2025.35858/post-547016

 

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Can the home crowd help Iulian and Anna beat the Japanese team?