Inverted rubbers by Pips / Antispin companies

[SorryForTheEdge]

Hi all,

I am curious to know about the quality and performance of inverted rubbers from Pips/Anti rubber companies (Spinlord, Dr. Neubauer, Der Materialspezialist, Sauer & Troger) and how they compare versus companies who are known for their top inverted rubbers.

For example, is Spinlord Irbis close to Tenergy / Rozena or Roundell / Sriver?

 

[belllfador]

I have some experience with the next rubbers:

Spinlord marder 2 1.5mm - very good allround rubber, with high control.

S&T Secret Flow Chop 1.5mm - too mushy and bouncy for a consistent chop, very fragile.

Dr Neubauer Dominance Speed Hard 1.5mm - good topsheet, but the sponge thickness was not consistent - there was 0.2mm difference between the two ends of the rubber.

 

[haggisv]

Most (all?) are made in China, so it's probably best to compare them to other Chinese-made rubbers.

 

[SorryForTheEdge]

I have some experience with the next rubbers:

Spinlord marder 2 1.5mm - very good allround rubber, with high control.

S&T Secret Flow Chop 1.5mm - too mushy and bouncy for a consistent chop, very fragile.

Dr Neubauer Dominance Speed Hard 1.5mm - good topsheet, but the sponge thickness was not consistent - there was 0.2mm difference between the two ends of the rubber.

Is Marder like Donic Acuda / Baracuda?

 

[belllfador]

Is Marder like Donic Acuda / Baracuda?

I dont have expirience with Acuda and Baracuda. But I can try to describe marder 2. The rubber is almost sticky (can not lift the ball), soft and have very thin top layer. The pips are very long and flexible, with the same density as mark V. The sponge is around 45 degrees without tensor effect. The ruber has extreme control, linear and versatile. Just don't expect high spin and speed.

 

[igorponger]

UNWATCHED RUBBERS SHALL GET DEGRADED IN QUALITY WITH TIME.

Unrestrained growth of LARC will always make for increasingly breeding of inferior rubber materials on market. ITTF cant now afford a relevant post-factory expertise of table tennis rubbers just for a sheer lack of inspectorial personnel. We are the only ITTF associated rubber experts to inspect the rubber on market in due manner, by means of standard metering instruments.

 

[SorryForTheEdge]

I dont have expirience with Acuda and Baracuda. But I can try to describe marder 2. The rubber is almost sticky (can not lift the ball), soft and have very thin top layer. The pips are very long and flexible, with the same density as mark V. The sponge is around 45 degrees without tensor effect. The ruber has extreme control, linear and versatile. Just don't expect high spin and speed.

Would you recommend this rubber for beginner players?

 

[igorponger]

Большинство (все?) из них производятся в Китае, поэтому, вероятно, лучше всего сравнивать их с другими резиновыми изделиями китайского производства.

Presently, none of China factories producing Anti materials, with the only exception. GD is our longstanding partner, great selection of rubber materials.

 

[Ultravisitor]

Would you recommend this rubber for beginner players?

No Spinlord Marder is a rubber that can work, but is to slow even for most beginners. This is a rubber for a defensive style.
Donic Acuda is a tensor rubber. If you want to save money look a the Vega series by Xiom.

 

[belllfador]

Would you recommend this rubber for beginner players?

Is good for beginners, IMO.

 

[SorryForTheEdge]

No Spinlord Marder is a rubber that can work, but is to slow even for most beginners. This is a rubber for a defensive style.
Donic Acuda is a tensor rubber. If you want to save money look a the Vega series by Xiom.

When you say slow do you mean like unboosted H3?

 

[Ultravisitor]

When you say slow do you mean like unboosted H3?

It's very different rubber. With hurricane it gets faster if you hit harder. Marder will bottom out if you hit hard and will behave unpredictable.
If you're a beginner stay with rubbers with lots of reviews.
If you want to save money, buy on aliexpress. IMO something like yinhe mercury fulfilles a similar purpose to marder but costs a fraction.

 

[SorryForTheEdge]

It's very different rubber. With hurricane it gets faster if you hit harder. Marder will bottom out if you hit hard and will behave unpredictable.
If you're a beginner stay with rubbers with lots of reviews.
If you want to save money, buy on aliexpress. IMO something like yinhe mercury fulfilles a similar purpose to marder but costs a fraction.

It sounds like a chopping rubber