Calderano Signs with Joola (#139)

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Customized blades and rubbers for professional players exist and well-documented, at least for some manufacturers. For example, Tibhar lists the Infinity MX-P as Jorgic's BH rubber, but never makes it available to the mass market (yet). They even made a special mould for the topsheet, not just slapping the normal MX-P topsheet on some harder sponge. His blade is an asymmetric one, which is also not commercially available.
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For me it's interesting that a Pro of this level, after, arguably, his best year in terms of results on international events, decides to change his sponsor (and, supposedly, equipment). Like.. does the equipment not matter so much? Or is it just that the other sponsor can guarantee to provide very similar equipment that will not hinder the athlete's performance?
I would understand a switch from Xiom to Butterfly in this context (as Butterfly can probably provide the best equipment for him), but from Xiom to Joola - I definitely don't understand what and how is prioritized here :)
 
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For me it's interesting that a Pro of this level, after, arguably, his best year in terms of results on international events, decides to change his sponsor (and, supposedly, equipment). Like.. does the equipment not matter so much? Or is it just that the other sponsor can guarantee to provide very similar equipment that will not hinder the athlete's performance?
I would understand a switch from Xiom to Butterfly in this context (as Butterfly can probably provide the best equipment for him), but from Xiom to Joola - I definitely don't understand what and how is prioritized here :)
JOOLA can make Hugo whatever he wants and needs, you seem to have the pre-existing opinion that JOOLA has less capability than Xiom somehow?
 
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For me it's interesting that a Pro of this level, after, arguably, his best year in terms of results on international events, decides to change his sponsor (and, supposedly, equipment). Like.. does the equipment not matter so much? Or is it just that the other sponsor can guarantee to provide very similar equipment that will not hinder the athlete's performance?
I would understand a switch from Xiom to Butterfly in this context (as Butterfly can probably provide the best equipment for him), but from Xiom to Joola - I definitely don't understand what and how is prioritized here :)
They can glue any joola handle on whatever blade he likes to play with. More importantly, he can get paid.
 
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They can glue any joola handle on whatever blade he likes to play with. More importantly, he can get paid.
Or we can just make the blade...
 
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JOOLA can make Hugo whatever he wants and needs, you seem to have the pre-existing opinion that JOOLA has less capability than Xiom somehow?
Nop - I would say that for me they have pretty much the same capability (but, as you understand - I have no idea 😅). My main point was mostly that I see those two brands as pretty equal and I would say that still, even if Joola can provide whatever Hugo wants it will still take time and it will still be different from what he has (those probably will be small margins and maybe on his level he can easily compensate for them and adjust just by the sheer volume of training).
So it's interesting for me what would be the actual reasons for a Pro of this level to switch like this. I am an amateur and I don't understand the weight of each property of changing a sponsor - be that equipment, money, other benefits, whatever else is in the contract.
If, after such a strong year with Xiom, he switches to another brand, then he definitely believes that the equipment will not be an issue and he will not lose time with it.. And this is a very fun thing for me to take out of this situation.. (as you know - most of the TT communities are alive because of the equipment diversity..)
 
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Or we can just make the blade...
No you can't, the blade is made of rare materials available only to Xiom. You don't have access to these rare materials... wood and axylium... the racket was also forged in a Korean kiln... you don't have access to that either. So how will you make the blade?

(just kidding...)
 
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Can you quote the video where Timo says he has Butterfly tune the rubbers to his liking? What I know is that pros may like certain rubber thicknesses and hardnesses and that is usually part of the rubber selection process. But it takes being a pro at the very top to get that and it isnt something common.

Most of the magic in what pros use with respect to equipment comes from the selection process not from some secret customization process. Manufacturers know there is a lot of money to be made from making what pros use accessible. But there is often little benefit in that to anyone but the pro in the cases of serious customization.
Think I misspoke on Timo's rubber, I apologize. Probably confused him with someone else. However you can see the special blade he got from BTY with his How I glue video, 14:27
 
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No you can't, the blade is made of rare materials available only to Xiom. You don't have access to these rare materials... wood and axylium... the racket was also forged in a Korean kiln... you don't have access to that either. So how will you make the blade?

(just kidding...)

He'll kidnap the guy together with his wife...

(just kidding...)
 
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For me it's interesting that a Pro of this level, after, arguably, his best year in terms of results on international events, decides to change his sponsor (and, supposedly, equipment). Like.. does the equipment not matter so much? Or is it just that the other sponsor can guarantee to provide very similar equipment that will not hinder the athlete's performance?
I would understand a switch from Xiom to Butterfly in this context (as Butterfly can probably provide the best equipment for him), but from Xiom to Joola - I definitely don't understand what and how is prioritized here :)
I suspect the main reason is that Joola is paying him a s*** load of cash.
 
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For me it's interesting that a Pro of this level, after, arguably, his best year in terms of results on international events, decides to change his sponsor (and, supposedly, equipment). Like.. does the equipment not matter so much? Or is it just that the other sponsor can guarantee to provide very similar equipment that will not hinder the athlete's performance?
I would understand a switch from Xiom to Butterfly in this context (as Butterfly can probably provide the best equipment for him), but from Xiom to Joola - I definitely don't understand what and how is prioritized here :)
Other than personal reason, Calderano actually made the same move, leaving Cornilleau in 2019 after he had a breakthrough the prior year, notably beating Boll (1st encounter), Harimoto (1st of 2 wins) and LGY (1st encounter and 1st of 2 wins) at Qatar Open 2018 and then FZD (1st of 2 wins) at WTGF 2018.
 
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Other than personal reason, Calderano actually made the same move, leaving Cornilleau in 2019 after he had a breakthrough the prior year, notably beating Boll (1st encounter), Harimoto (1st of 2 wins) and LGY (1st encounter and 1st of 2 wins) at Qatar Open 2018 and then FZD (1st of 2 wins) at WTGF 2018.
Cornilleau wasn't and isn't in a great spot and you can argue Hugo moved up the ladder by going to Xiom; whereas moving to Joola now however seems like a sidegrade at best, if they haven't given up on table tennis completely and only do pickleball
 
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Think I misspoke on Timo's rubber, I apologize. Probably confused him with someone else. However you can see the special blade he got from BTY with his How I glue video, 14:27
Thanks. Again, you're the one calling them special, ZJK said he got exactly the same thing with respect to Viscarias, they just don't make the blades look exactly the same as the commercial and number them differently as they are tracked as part of a different inventory process. Most people would call Timo's racket a fake if they were presented with it without any context because it is plainer than the commercial product which is made prettier by its bells and whistles. It isn't made with some special recipe that makes it different from regular Boll ALCs, it has at most stricter pre-selection criteria that meets what Timo likes.

I remember someone on myTT saying that there was a guy who used to treat rackets with some special process and that Timo gets his rackets treated by that guy and stuff like that - if true, all such stuff is just personal stuff, it isn't anything manufacturers are doing just for the blades of their players to create a final superior product they will never sell to the general public.
 
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Thanks. Again, you're the one calling them special, ZJK said he got exactly the same thing with respect to Viscarias, they just don't make the blades look exactly the same as the commercial and number them differently as they are tracked as part of a different inventory process. Most people would call Timo's racket a fake if they were presented with it without any context because it is plainer than the commercial product which is made prettier by its bells and whistles. It isn't made with some special recipe that makes it different from regular Boll ALCs, it has at most stricter pre-selection criteria that meets what Timo likes.

I remember someone on myTT saying that there was a guy who used to treat rackets with some special process and that Timo gets his rackets treated by that guy and stuff like that - if true, all such stuff is just personal stuff, it isn't anything manufacturers are doing just for the blades of their players to create a final superior product they will never sell to the general public.
It is not actually always the case for Butterfly to make custom blades different. AFAIK Wong Chun Ting has a special blade with ZJK Alc's handle. To be fair, some manufacturers do use special treatment/processing for special versions, as far as I'm aware, the veneers in W968 are naturally dried, whereas the drying for the veneers of HL5 are accelerated. Pressing temp also, W968 cold pressed, HL5 normal pressed.
 
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There are cases where the player version of blades and rubbers have different thicknesses of the wood/carbon plies or sponge, and the wood comes from sources not available to the mass production, that ends up in a pretty different product.
In the cases I have heard this rumored, alternative blade the player actually uses is either commercially available (and sometimes more expensive) or just something that evolved with a switch in preferences on the part of the player which it would not really be worth it to adjust the commercial blade to reflect that switch. But it's rarely a case of player A using something and the manufacturer going out of their way to sell something different because they don't want the public to have access to the player's superior equipment.
 
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It is not actually always the case for Butterfly to make custom blades different. AFAIK Wong Chun Ting has a special blade with ZJK Alc's handle. To be fair, some manufacturers do use special treatment/processing for special versions, as far as I'm aware, the veneers in W968 are naturally dried, whereas the drying for the veneers of HL5 are accelerated. Pressing temp also, W968 cold pressed, HL5 normal pressed.
The W968 is commercially available. Even when Schlager won with a Primorac Carbon and the Schlager Carbon was created, the Schlager Carbon was commercially available. Anyone can get a custom blade made by Butterfly at expense to them, pros just don't have to pay. But this is a different issue from saying that there is some process by which pros get blades and equipment that regular people will never have access to. It just doesn't happen as much as some would like to believe.
 
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There are cases where the player version of blades and rubbers have different thicknesses of the wood/carbon plies or sponge, and the wood comes from sources not available to the mass production, that ends up in a pretty different product.

Like wood comes from alfa Centauri?
 
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