Hurricane 3 + protective films

[ripctt2]

Hi so i recently bought DHS protective films off aliexpress (genuine ones) and stiga protective films (may be fake idk)https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007438720959.html
but i always stick it onto the rubber trying to get every little bit of dust out. But im not entirely sure why, asfter a few days of usage, it gets to a point where after i cleanb the rubber and stick the protective film on, it at first looks perfectly fine but over a long period of time maybe a few hours or overnight, parts at the top or edges begin to lfit up, and when i tajkew the film off, the areas thjat weren't stuck on well are lighter in colour whilst the areas that were stuck well are darker. sometimes even as i put them on, it doesnt stick properly and i have to pressdown on it for quite a while to getit to stick.
Why does this happen and how to fix it and does it affect the longevity of the rubber?
Note: using dhs hurricane 3

 

[SwingRobo]

Protective films isn’t that useful,sometimes it may even damage the rubber surface,just use cleaner(or sweat） ,then put it in bag when the surface dry,avoid wet and high temperature,that's enough

 

[IB66]

I don’t like the protective films that are sticky, they gather dust as well !! I used to clean the protective film as well.
As the previous poster suggested, a plastic bag, preferably with a zip type seal are good, sandwich bags etc
I use the non sticky protective film with non tacky rubbers, but they don’t stay in place very well when you put them in a double bat case. Plastic bags are better!!

 

[ripctt2]

Ahh ok. but i have one more question. when people sy like breathe on tehir racket and wipe with your hand (casntr with my shirt or shorts) but it alwyas leave a whole bunch of dust on their after i wipe it. idk if its becuase of skin or the dust bnut it alwyas makes it dirtier than it was before albeit slightly tackier. is there any way to prevent this> i just usually get as bit of water from my bottle to clean it in the end anyways.

 

[SwingRobo]

Perhaps you can try rubber cleaner spray，or make it yourself，it mainly contains DI water with a little sodium Benzoate and Surfactant （sodium dodecyl benzene sulfonate is ok），don't forget to use sponge to wipe the cleaner liquid

 

[MORTtheORT]

DHS stuff is all over the place. Hard to know if it is real or not and this includes the rubbers themselves. Are the covers sticky? General with H3 it is best to use non sticky cover sheets after cleaning, and you can put a small drop of water on the rubber in the middle before putting non sticky covers on. Helps it stick down and will help keep the rubber tacky. With the neo version the rubber tends to get tackier over time if you do it this way from my experience. Personally I always use the butterfly non adhesive covers for my H3. The H3 is a dust magnet and you have to put more into the care of the rubber.

 

[belllfador]

For H3 and other sticky rubber, DI water and non sticky film, no bubbles, no worries. H3 can oxidize, so protection from air is a must. During game just brush with your hand in the middle area, aka working surface. If the rubber is oxidized and loses some grip, you can use this magical potion:

Also, it is working for ESN and Tenergy.

 

[Lazer]

I make my own cleaner. I tiny bit if Yes dishwashing liquid mixed with water. Has been working perfectly for a couple of years.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[ripctt2]

DHS stuff is all over the place. Hard to know if it is real or not and this includes the rubbers themselves. Are the covers sticky? General with H3 it is best to use non sticky cover sheets after cleaning, and you can put a small drop of water on the rubber in the middle before putting non sticky covers on. Helps it stick down and will help keep the rubber tacky. With the neo version the rubber tends to get tackier over time if you do it this way from my experience. Personally I always use the butterfly non adhesive covers for my H3. The H3 is a dust magnet and you have to put more into the care of the rubber.

Im using the dhs protective film the blue ones on aliexpress . got it from hwsports which is a reputable seller. but like i do use a dedicated rubber claener butr the problem when i put water and then put the film on, it permanently changesa the colour or look of the topsheet. i once tried and it ended up having these jkagged edges that were slightly paler on the edges. but ap-[art from that no one has said why like breathe + hand leaves a bunch of dust. is it becuase hand has dust or skin? becuyase many chinese players always do this and idk if it will affect the performance.

 

[MORTtheORT]

This is the problem with DHS...good seller but they are still having to buy it from somewhere. Over time as you buy new H3 rubbers you will start to understand. Something is definitely not right with what is happening with yours.... potentially your cleaning product has not dried completely before you have put the protective layer? Or it is leaving a film on the rubber and the drop of water is pushing this film to the edge..maybe. but I would definitely try a different protective film as it is the cheapest test you can do to rule out a potential issue. I am not sure why your rubber is getting dirty when you breath and rub your rubber with your palm. Are you playing in a particularly dusty environment? For me my rubbers go clean from this so I can only assume the environment is dusty making it hard to find a clean surface.

Im using the dhs protective film the blue ones on aliexpress . got it from hwsports which is a reputable seller. but like i do use a dedicated rubber claener butr the problem when i put water and then put the film on, it permanently changesa the colour or look of the topsheet. i once tried and it ended up having these jkagged edges that were slightly paler on the edges. but ap-[art from that no one has said why like breathe + hand leaves a bunch of dust. is it becuase hand has dust or skin? becuyase many chinese players always do this and idk if it will affect the

 

[ripctt2]

This is the problem with DHS...good seller but they are still having to buy it from somewhere. Over time as you buy new H3 rubbers you will start to understand. Something is definitely not right with what is happening with yours.... potentially your cleaning product has not dried completely before you have put the protective layer? Or it is leaving a film on the rubber and the drop of water is pushing this film to the edge..maybe. but I would definitely try a different protective film as it is the cheapest test you can do to rule out a potential issue. I am not sure why your rubber is getting dirty when you breath and rub your rubber with your palm. Are you playing in a particularly dusty environment? For me my rubbers go clean from this so I can only assume the environment is dusty making it hard to find a clean surface.

Oh it might've been the cleaning product. But the keyword is before. I tried this before (perhaps with cleaning solution and not water) but it left irrevcersible marks on the topsheet. thats why im scared to do it now becuase im paranoid that its going to cuase the same cosmetic issues as before. actually the area just lost all its tack. so not puely cosmetic. performance too.

 

[Tyce]

If breathing and wiping makes your rubber more dusty, your hands are dirty.
Otherwise, if you mean that breath-wipe doesn't completely clean the rubber, just do it again until it does... Cleaning can take a bit of time especially on a rubber surface

 

[MORTtheORT]

Oh it might've been the cleaning product. But the keyword is before. I tried this before (perhaps with cleaning solution and not water) but it left irrevcersible marks on the topsheet. thats why im scared to do it now becuase im paranoid that its going to cuase the same cosmetic issues as before. actually the area just lost all its tack. so not puely cosmetic. performance too.

Yeah this pale edge and performance drop to me definitely sounds like the edge of the rubber has unfortunately had oxidation. I would question the cleaner but I am also concerned about the rubber protection you are using. To me it sounds like the edges have not stuck down properly and let air in. The cleaner might also be drying the rubber out as a potential but pale edges which are damaged is not great. Did you glue the rubber yourself? If so, did you cut the rubber with a blade or scissors? Scissors can potentially cause lots of micro tears that can lead to the edge of a rubber falling a part. Doesn't always happen but just the nature of how scissors cut using friction can make this an issue as well. Maybe a few things to look into for when you replace the rubber?

 

[belllfador]

Everything in TT is try and error. My 3 H3s are more than 9 months old and the most used one has ~70 hours. Play as good as 90% new. I clean them with distillate water and use non sticky cover sheet. Let some drops of water between the sheet and the rubber and roll a cylinder to remove all the bubbles. After that, I press the rubber with 2 books for 24 hours and put it aside. Some months ago, I cleaned all of my H3s with the special cleaner (that I show above). Tests with oxidized pieces of rubber have a good as miracle result, but this type of cleaner is not recommended for frequent use. Booster also can impruve the grip.

Another point is the existence of H3 equivalents with better resistance to air - battle III and battle III purple.

 

[SwingRobo]

Im using the dhs protective film the blue ones on aliexpress . got it from hwsports which is a reputable seller. but like i do use a dedicated rubber claener butr the problem when i put water and then put the film on, it permanently changesa the colour or look of the topsheet. i once tried and it ended up having these jkagged edges that were slightly paler on the edges. but ap-[art from that no one has said why like breathe + hand leaves a bunch of dust. is it becuase hand has dust or skin? becuyase many chinese players always do this and idk if it will affect the performance.

In our country,many player choose H3 ,and most of them don't use film,because it propably enhances the oxidization of the topsheet,oxygen soluted in pure water can also boost the oxidation.So they hardly use pure water as cleaner or protecive film.And there's another problem,over time, the pattern on the protective film may transfer onto the topsheet
As for the dust,it is hard to imagine,we usually use sweat or exhale on it and then spraed it evenly,perhaps you need to make sure there's not that much dust on your hand.When the cleaner liquid dry,just put your blade in your bag as soon as possible,sticky topsheet has a deadly attraction to dust in the air.

 

[dingyibvs]

Hi so i recently bought DHS protective films off aliexpress (genuine ones) and stiga protective films (may be fake idk)https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007438720959.html
but i always stick it onto the rubber trying to get every little bit of dust out. But im not entirely sure why, asfter a few days of usage, it gets to a point where after i cleanb the rubber and stick the protective film on, it at first looks perfectly fine but over a long period of time maybe a few hours or overnight, parts at the top or edges begin to lfit up, and when i tajkew the film off, the areas thjat weren't stuck on well are lighter in colour whilst the areas that were stuck well are darker. sometimes even as i put them on, it doesnt stick properly and i have to pressdown on it for quite a while to getit to stick.
Why does this happen and how to fix it and does it affect the longevity of the rubber?
Note: using dhs hurricane 3

That happens with just about all protective films, they all start deforming after a while, whether sticky or non-sticky. H3 can get oxidized, and the parts not covered by the protective sheet like on the edges will be the first. I use a racket press, specifically the Revolution #3 racket press and that makes the protective film stick to it really well. It also flattens out the protective film so you actually don't need to use the press every time, but I do it pretty much every time.

 

[Lazer]

In our country,many player choose H3 ,and most of them don't use film,because it propably enhances the oxidization of the topsheet,oxygen soluted in pure water can also boost the oxidation.So they hardly use pure water as cleaner or protecive film.And there's another problem,over time, the pattern on the protective film may transfer onto the topsheet
As for the dust,it is hard to imagine,we usually use sweat or exhale on it and then spraed it evenly,perhaps you need to make sure there's not that much dust on your hand.When the cleaner liquid dry,just put your blade in your bag as soon as possible,sticky topsheet has a deadly attraction to dust in the air.

Oxidation is a chemical reaction to oxygen. Oxygen is present in air and water. How can a sheet which prevents direct contact with air if put on to the dry rubber ENHANCE oxidazation???

I have been using sometimes cleaner sometimes pure water and protective sheets for years and no problems.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[SwingRobo]

Oxidation is a chemical reaction to oxygen. Oxygen is present in air and water. How can a sheet which prevents direct contact with air if put on to the dry rubber ENHANCE oxidazation???

I have been using sometimes cleaner sometimes pure water and protective sheets for years and no problems.

Cheers
L-zr

My fault
Perhaps the ”oxidation“ contains another chemical reaction——Like dissolves like，the surface coating resin of H3 has a structure similar to the polymer molecules that make up the protective film.additionly，DHS's quality control has always been pretty poor.

I've seen more than once that after removing the long-applied protective film from the H3, its surface has a white layer，which reduces friction of the topsheet.

 

[MORTtheORT]

In our country,many player choose H3 ,and most of them don't use film,because it propably enhances the oxidization of the topsheet,oxygen soluted in pure water can also boost the oxidation.So they hardly use pure water as cleaner or protecive film.And there's another problem,over time, the pattern on the protective film may transfer onto the topsheet
As for the dust,it is hard to imagine,we usually use sweat or exhale on it and then spraed it evenly,perhaps you need to make sure there's not that much dust on your hand.When the cleaner liquid dry,just put your blade in your bag as soon as possible,sticky topsheet has a deadly attraction to dust in the air.

I would suggest putting the films on the right way to avoid the branding being absorbed by the rubber.

Oxygen and ozone and rubbers is bad...you must make a vacuum seal with a film.

 

[MORTtheORT]

Everything in TT is try and error. My 3 H3s are more than 9 months old and the most used one has ~70 hours. Play as good as 90% new. I clean them with distillate water and use non sticky cover sheet. Let some drops of water between the sheet and the rubber and roll a cylinder to remove all the bubbles. After that, I press the rubber with 2 books for 24 hours and put it aside. Some months ago, I cleaned all of my H3s with the special cleaner (that I show above). Tests with oxidized pieces of rubber have a good as miracle result, but this type of cleaner is not recommended for frequent use. Booster also can impruve the grip.

Another point is the existence of H3 equivalents with better resistance to air - battle III and battle III purple.

Battle 3 properly the better rubber for most players in my view.