Any recommendations on XIOM equipment

[chinacurious]

The new Xiom Blades should be widely available within the next 5 weeks.

My choices would be:

Blade: 1) Chrome XAXi (if available), 2) Artemis ALXi (if available), 3) Hugo ALXi Pro, 4) Hugo TMXi Pro

FH Rubber non Tacky: 1) J&H Z52.5 - 2) Omega 8 Pro - 3) Omega 7 Pro
FH Rubber Tacky: 1) J&H C52.5 - 2) Omega 8 China

BH Rubber: 1) Omega 8 Euro - 2) Omega 7 Euro - 3) Omega 8 Pro - 4) Omega 7 Pro

 

[Sp8e00]

Do you the omega 8 or 7 pro on fh is the perfect fit from vega x?

The new Xiom Blades should be widely available within the next 5 weeks.

My choices would be:

Blade: 1) Chrome XAXi (if available), 2) Artemis ALXi (if available), 3) Hugo ALXi Pro, 4) Hugo TMXi Pro

FH Rubber non Tacky: 1) J&H Z52.5 - 2) Omega 8 Pro - 3) Omega 7 Pro
FH Rubber Tacky: 1) J&H C52.5 - 2) Omega 8 China

BH Rubber: 1) Omega 8 Euro - 2) Omega 7 Euro - 3) Omega 8 Pro - 4) Omega 7

 

[chinacurious]

Do you the omega 8 or 7 pro on fh is the perfect fit from vega x?

Not sure. I have not played those rubbers a lot. It's just what I would try coming from Vega X. You could also try Vega Pro. Maybe that one doesn't need a break in period for you.

It's still not clear to me what exactly you want. You wrote you like Dignics 09c and would like a tacky rubber, but then say the shop owner doesn't like tacky rubbers. Maybe make sure what exactly you can get and then we can tell you what might be closest to what you want.

 

[Sp8e00]

Not sure. I have not played those rubbers a lot. It's just what I would try coming from Vega X. You could also try Vega Pro. Maybe that one doesn't need a break in period for you.

It's still not clear to me what exactly you want. You wrote you like Dignics 09c and would like a tacky rubber, but then say the shop owner doesn't like tacky rubbers. Maybe make sure what exactly you can get and then we can tell you what might be closest to what you want.

Ye thanks a lot, there is conflicting opinions between me, my coach and the shop owner what I should get soo it’s quite hard to tell. If I could get c55 on fh I would but it would take a lot of convincing

 

[Sp8e00]

Not sure. I have not played those rubbers a lot. It's just what I would try coming from Vega X. You could also try Vega Pro. Maybe that one doesn't need a break in period for you.

It's still not clear to me what exactly you want. You wrote you like Dignics 09c and would like a tacky rubber, but then say the shop owner doesn't like tacky rubbers. Maybe make sure what exactly you can get and then we can tell you what might be closest to what you want.

What xiom blades and rubbers have u tried and liked?

 

[chinacurious]

I have AJH TMXi Pro, 36.5 ALXi, CDS TMX Pro (all not in production anymore), Hayabusa ZL Pro. Omega 8 China, Pro and Euro. Vega Pro H, Vega Europe H. All of them have advantages and disadvantages.

What does your coach think? His opinion should be the most relevant.

 

[Sp8e00]

I have AJH TMXi Pro, 36.5 ALXi, CDS TMX Pro (all not in production anymore), Hayabusa ZL Pro. Omega 8 China, Pro and Euro. Vega Pro H, Vega Europe H. All of them have advantages and disadvantages.

What does your coach think? His opinion should be the most relevant.

I’m kinda in a difficult position because my coach isn’t an equipment guy but instead just trusts what others say therefore he trusts what the shop owner says. The main thing he said which is true is that I can’t jump from a 5 ply with soft/medium rubbers to a carbon blade with medium hard/hard rubbers. He says this because I’m a cadet playing lots of tournaments and I can’t afford 3 months to get used to something. Although I disagree with this and think I should just throw myself in the deep ends because my friends have done it already and improved loads. The hard thing is with equipment is that it’s a matter of opinion and no one will fell the same way ever

 

[chinacurious]

So you are using the Lebesson blade at the moment and not the Long 5? Also in your first post you say that you don't like bouncy rubbers like Tenergy 05. Are Vega X and FX-S less bouncy? I'm not sure.

Could you clear up any confusion and clearly state what you are using right now and what you like and don't like about the blade, fh and bh rubber you are using right now.

 

[Sp8e00]

So you are using the Lebesson blade at the moment and not the Long 5? Also in your first post you say that you don't like bouncy rubbers like Tenergy 05. Are Vega X and FX-S less bouncy? I'm not sure.

Could you clear up any confusion and clearly state what you are using right now and what you like and don't like about the blade, fh and bh rubber you are using right now.

Ye mb i get mixed up with rubbers and equipment. To clear up confusion, I used lebesson but tried my friends long 5 and love it. Also im using fxs and vega x. From testing, I dont like bouncy rubbers like vega x on the bh

 

[Sp8e00]

Ye mb i get mixed up with rubbers and equipment. To clear up confusion, I used lebesson but tried my friends long 5 and love it. Also im using fxs and vega x. From testing, I dont like bouncy rubbers like vega x on the bh

I like the ease of use on fxs because I can easily generate my own power without launching it off the end of the table. I find it hard to generate power on my bh topspin therefore I know I need to switch to something harder. So if you have a recommendation for a rubber that’s easy to generate your own power but it can spin with power too then that would be much appreciated

On the fh I have vega x and I really didn’t like at at first because it felt like there was a very long break in period which meant I went into tournaments with a stiff rubber and I lost loads of games. After 2 months I finally started to like it a bit but I want to change now anyway because I’ve had it for 4 months. I liked how it wasn’t crazy bouncy like tenergy and I still had the feel and touch. If you could find something similar that doesn’t need a crazy long break in period and maybe it’s a bit harder then that would be appreciated.

For my blade, I use the tibhar lebesson and it’s a good 5 ply blade I will say that but now I need something that will give me more in my shots. Pretty much all the higher ranked people at my age group are using, viscaria, timo boll alc, viscaria super alc etc. But I’ve tried both the dhs ma long 5 and the dimitri ocharov alc and apparently these blades are similar. I loved them both tbh maybe because of them being inner carbon blades so I really want a blade that plays similar to them from xiom. My choices right now are between all the Hugo ones and the hayabusa ones. I will ask the store owner if the new blades will be stocked but for now they are my options

 

[vossi39]

An upgrade vom Vega X would be O7 Pro. Same hardness with a bit more control and speed. For BH if you love FXS you can use Omega 5 Europe. Should not be much difference.
For the blade. I would go with Hugo TMXi as it closest to HL5 from a components (limba out veneer, inner layer carbon) and structure. But this combination will be way faster than your current setup.
In order to keep changes minimal, you might consider only changing blade and use Vega X on FH and something like Vega Korea for BH. The Vega Korea should be a bit less powerful than FX-S but that will be more than compensated by the blade.

 

[Sp8e00]

An upgrade vom Vega X would be O7 Pro. Same hardness with a bit more control and speed. For BH if you love FXS you can use Omega 5 Europe. Should not be much difference.
For the blade. I would go with Hugo TMXi as it closest to HL5 from a components (limba out veneer, inner layer carbon) and structure. But this combination will be way faster than your current setup.
In order to keep changes minimal, you might consider only changing blade and use Vega X on FH and something like Vega Korea for BH. The Vega Korea should be a bit less powerful than FX-S but that will be more than compensated by the blade.

Ok thanks 🙏. Just a note though, the only omega rubbers I can get are 7 or 8

 

[vossi39]

But Vegas you can get as well. don't you? Than stick with with Vegas. Upgrade to the Omegas later, once you got used to the new blade.

 

[Sp8e00]

But Vegas you can get as well. don't you? Than stick with with Vegas. Upgrade to the Omegas later, once you got used to the new blade.

If I change during off-season so you think I would be ok with omegas?

 

[jk1980]

Of you are coming from a all wood blade, the best upgrade would be the Hayabusa ZL Pro which is basically a xiom HAL just with inner construction. It is not that hard so the adjustment will not be that harsh but it still provides more gears with that artificial fiber inner layer

 

[vossi39]

Compared to the Vegas, the omegas are way more sensitive to incoming spin and have more catapult if the ball is hit harder. So you have to compensate for the additional speed of your carbon blade AND the additional speed generated by the rubbers. Since I have no idea how easy you adapt to new conditions, it is hard to tell, if this not too much.
If I were in your shoes, I would keep the changes as small as possible. With the carbon blade you have enough additional power, so sticking with Vegas is not really a drawback.

If you go for the Omega, stay with the 7 series. O8 is wearing off quickly and offers no benefits.

BTW. You may want to ask the shop owner if he has an older Xiom An Jaehyun TMXi Pro. This would be a true marvel as it is very close to a W968 (the professional china national team version of HL5).

 

[chinacurious]

Now that I know you are coming from 5 ply all wood, I would also suggest slightly slower rubbers on the much faster blade like vossi.

I would go Vega Pro FH and Vega Korea BH.

Blades still: 1) Chrome XAXi (if available), 2) Artemis ALXi (if available), 3) Hugo ALXi Pro, 4) Hugo TMXi Pro

 

[Sp8e00]

Compared to the Vegas, the omegas are way more sensitive to incoming spin and have more catapult if the ball is hit harder. So you have to compensate for the additional speed of your carbon blade AND the additional speed generated by the rubbers. Since I have no idea how easy you adapt to new conditions, it is hard to tell, if this not too much.
If I were in your shoes, I would keep the changes as small as possible. With the carbon blade you have enough additional power, so sticking with Vegas is not really a drawback.

If you go for the Omega, stay with the 7 series. O8 is wearing off quickly and offers no benefits.

BTW. You may want to ask the shop owner if he has an older Xiom An Jaehyun TMXi Pro. This would be a true marvel as it is very close to a W968 (the professional china national team version of HL5).

I’ll definitely ask about the an jaehyun blade because that would be the perfect choice. I just don’t know whether the vega Korea would be a good choice for my bh because it’s like 47 degrees compared to an omega 7 Europe at 42.5. I know you said about the sensitivity of the rubbers and the added speed but I’ve tried the Korea as many people I know have it and for me it doesn’t offer me much. It’s really hard this equipment thing lol. Soo subjective

 

[chinacurious]

Korea is 45°. The new blade will be sooo much faster. Slightly slower rubbers will still be a lot faster than your current setup.

 

[KTableTennis]

Is omega 7 Europe or omega 8 Europe a better choice for bh?

im using omega 7 europe on backhand because it is very soft so a ton of control