Rubber change recomendations for Nittaku H2

[Nick80]

Hello guys! Im asking to help me to choose right rubbers for me!
So I have a HINA Hayata h2 blade with rubbers
Hurricane 3 National Blue Sponge MA LONG FOREHAND thickness-2.1, hardness-42
Hurricane 3 National Orange Sponge MA LONG Backhand thickness-2.1, hardness-37

The problem is that this racket has a direct linear behaviour and the setup does not forgive mistakes. It is like a katana that will send the ball exactly where you directed it with almost no arc and it
is very demanding on choosing the right angle of the racket when doing top spin.
Another drawback is the insufficient feeling of the ball during the hit. The harder rubber has a better feeling of the ball, but still not enough.
With 37 deg RUBBER, when goes in rubber, it feels like the ball hits jelly.
Therefore, I want something that would provide me with a greater feeling of the ball, more control. I feel like I would benefit from a evenharder rubber, thinner sponge and a higher and shorter arc. But im not sure, im not an expert in this question.
I tried a ping pong paddle and really liked the clear feel of the ball hitting the rubber.
Before this setup, I tried D05, D09C and G09c and they are not suitable for this blade at all.
The ball bounces on them 3 times longer, than on the hurricane rubbers.
So I need advice from those who understand this nuance so that I don't buy another tensor? or other rubbers, that are incompatible with this blade

I have my eye on the nittaku g1 rubber, which I have never tried, with a 1.8 sponge thickness and I wonder if the arc with this rubber will also be low due to the 1.8 thickness?
I will take any advice with pleasure)

 

[Rastaman]

Hello guys! Im asking to help me to choose right rubbers for me!
So I have a HINA Hayata h2 blade with rubbers
Hurricane 3 National Blue Sponge MA LONG FOREHAND thickness-2.1, hardness-42
Hurricane 3 National Orange Sponge MA LONG Backhand thickness-2.1, hardness-37

The problem is that this racket has a direct linear behaviour and the setup does not forgive mistakes. It is like a katana that will send the ball exactly where you directed it with almost no arc and it
is very demanding on choosing the right angle of the racket when doing top spin.
Another drawback is the insufficient feeling of the ball during the hit. The harder rubber has a better feeling of the ball, but still not enough.
With 37 deg RUBBER, when goes in rubber, it feels like the ball hits jelly.
Therefore, I want something that would provide me with a greater feeling of the ball, more control. I feel like I would benefit from a evenharder rubber, thinner sponge and a higher and shorter arc. But im not sure, im not an expert in this question.
I tried a ping pong paddle and really liked the clear feel of the ball hitting the rubber.
Before this setup, I tried D05, D09C and G09c and they are not suitable for this blade at all.
The ball bounces on them 3 times longer, than on the hurricane rubbers.
So I need advice from those who understand this nuance so that I don't buy another tensor? or other rubbers, that are incompatible with this blade

I have my eye on the nittaku g1 rubber, which I have never tried, with a 1.8 sponge thickness and I wonder if the arc with this rubber will also be low due to the 1.8 thickness?
I will take any advice with pleasure)

What rubbers have you choosed for your Hayata blade?

 

[MOJOJOJO-74]

Hello guys! Im asking to help me to choose right rubbers for me!
So I have a HINA Hayata h2 blade with rubbers
Hurricane 3 National Blue Sponge MA LONG FOREHAND thickness-2.1, hardness-42
Hurricane 3 National Orange Sponge MA LONG Backhand thickness-2.1, hardness-37

The problem is that this racket has a direct linear behaviour and the setup does not forgive mistakes. It is like a katana that will send the ball exactly where you directed it with almost no arc and it
is very demanding on choosing the right angle of the racket when doing top spin.
Another drawback is the insufficient feeling of the ball during the hit. The harder rubber has a better feeling of the ball, but still not enough.
With 37 deg RUBBER, when goes in rubber, it feels like the ball hits jelly.
Therefore, I want something that would provide me with a greater feeling of the ball, more control. I feel like I would benefit from a evenharder rubber, thinner sponge and a higher and shorter arc. But im not sure, im not an expert in this question.
I tried a ping pong paddle and really liked the clear feel of the ball hitting the rubber.
Before this setup, I tried D05, D09C and G09c and they are not suitable for this blade at all.
The ball bounces on them 3 times longer, than on the hurricane rubbers.
So I need advice from those who understand this nuance so that I don't buy another tensor? or other rubbers, that are incompatible with this blade

I have my eye on the nittaku g1 rubber, which I have never tried, with a 1.8 sponge thickness and I wonder if the arc with this rubber will also be low due to the 1.8 thickness?
I will take any advice with pleasure)

For your H3 42°, you definitely will need to boost it with multiple layers due to that hardness, like I've boosted it with 3-5 layers because of the hardness. For the H3 37°, you can try out Wang Chuqin or Liang Jingkun's backhand rubber since it's 1 degree harder and that can help with the jellyness.

The reason you see the ball bounce much more from 09c, 05, G09c is because the sponge is not dead like Hurricane or Chinese rubbers are with the sponge and tackiness they have.

If you would like to stick with rubbers that have pro player's names or are associated with them, then you should consider the Donic Bluegrip J series since Zhang Jike helped with its development. It's easier and faster to play with than Hurricane since you say Hurricane is very demanding for you. I had tried J3 for RPB and I liked it and felt easier than H3 37, just know you won't get the same amount of tackiness that you would with Hurricane. You can buy it on Megaspin or TableTennis11, and TableTennis11 did a video on the Zhang Jike equipment so it can give you an idea of how different levels like or dislike certain things of the rubbers/blades, hope this helps!

 

[Rastaman]

For your H3 42°, you definitely will need to boost it with multiple layers due to that hardness, like I've boosted it with 3-5 layers because of the hardness. For the H3 37°, you can try out Wang Chuqin or Liang Jingkun's backhand rubber since it's 1 degree harder and that can help with the jellyness.

The reason you see the ball bounce much more from 09c, 05, G09c is because the sponge is not dead like Hurricane or Chinese rubbers are with the sponge and tackiness they have.

If you would like to stick with rubbers that have pro player's names or are associated with them, then you should consider the Donic Bluegrip J series since Zhang Jike helped with its development. It's easier and faster to play with than Hurricane since you say Hurricane is very demanding for you. I had tried J3 for RPB and I liked it and felt easier than H3 37, just know you won't get the same amount of tackiness that you would with Hurricane. You can buy it on Megaspin or TableTennis11, and TableTennis11 did a video on the Zhang Jike equipment so it can give you an idea of how different levels like or dislike certain things of the rubbers/blades, hope this helps!

I like J3 on H" blade have it on backhand. J2 On forhand but because my FH is bad im thinking of NUzn 48 on Forhand or Maybe Nuzn 45, or do you think Nuzn 45 be to soft for the H2 blade?

 

[MOJOJOJO-74]

I like J3 on H" blade have it on backhand. J2 On forhand but because my FH is bad im thinking of NUzn 48 on Forhand or Maybe Nuzn 45, or do you think Nuzn 45 be to soft for the H2 blade?

Unfortunately I don't have any experience using Andro rubbers, but what you could do is try using your J3 rubber on forehand to see if it feels better than J2? I prefer hard Chinese rubbers, but J3 I liked when I had used it a year ago.

 

[Nick80]

What rubbers have you choosed for your Hayata blade?

I sold H2 blade, and bought xiom hal. I like it much more. On H2 you dont understand where the ball will land. You can not get enogh precizion to play this blade.

 

[Rastaman]

I sold H2 blade, and bought xiom hal. I like it much more. On H2 you dont understand where the ball will land. You can not get enogh precizion to play this blade.

What do you mean? I think the H2 have tons of control and placement is good. Do you think the HAL is even better in placement and control then?

 

[Nick80]

h2 has good control in short game, but on fast shots ball flies without clear understandig where it will land. It is my subjective experience. It also became slower after 6 months of play, so i sold it. With hal i can place the ball where i want much easier. I only dont like its softness, so i plan to try something harder in future.