ITTF WTTTC Finals London 2026, 4/28-5/10

[NextLevel]

Dpends if they have a ggood day or not really.

You really needed to watch the matches.

 

[NextLevel]

Matsushima needs to achieve what Oh Junsung has done at ATTC 2024 and WTTC 2026 before he gets ahead of himself.

{补档}【4k修复】浪费机会的人会受到惩罚的
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19sGvzKE41?t=25
其实有的时候
看人就是一两场比赛
不会有太多机会的
老给你机会的人
老把握不住的人是会出问题的
所以我就感觉这么多年下来
就是浪费机会的人
会受到惩罚的
(LGL: In fact, sometimes
It takes only one or two matches to judge a player
There aren't that many opportunities
Those who keep getting opportunities
Those who consistently miss their chances will run into problems
Therefore, I've come to realize that over the years
Those who squander opportunities
will be punished)

Oh, sure, its like the circumstances are comparable and WCQ playing here would notnhave made a difference. Making comparisons like this is why you lose credibility. If you didn't translate genuine news articles from Asian sources, your contributions here would be very questionable self-aggrandization.

I doubt at this stage of their careers Japan would trade Sora for Oh. Just saying.

 

[NetProphet]

To people who said Ly has a legal serve. Look at his pendulum serve in a MLTT match against koyo Kanamitsu.


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Isn't that a ball we're looking at in the picture?
If we can see it then the opponent can see it, right?

 

[NextLevel]

Isn't that a ball we're looking at in the picture?
If we can see it then the opponent can see it, right?

The rules are not about seeing the ball. I am not sure where this interpretation comes from. The rules are about the ball being visible throughout the serve motion and uncontroversially so.

 

[Janard]

LJK's reputation hangs on the balance again now that he is pitted against Moregard lol

Winter against Hashimoto and Hayata versus HY should be interesting!

Did WMY return home? Or just didn't win the lot drawing again

 

[Tyce]

The rules are not about seeing the ball. I am not sure where this interpretation comes from. The rules are about the ball being visible throughout the serve motion and uncontroversially so.

I really don't know how that is different than seeing the ball - completely - in this picture

 

[NextLevel]

I really don't know how that is different than seeing the ball - completely - in this picture

That toss with 100% certainty passed behind the head or body at some point. Visibility at contact is not the rule.

 

[zeio]

WTT Fan Vote
78% vs 22%
MT Grp1
CHN 1-2 SWE
WCQ 3-0 Kallberg (8, 5, 6)
LSD 2-3 Ranefur (-9, -6, 3, 6, -9)
G2 66, 611
G3 13, 113
G4 103, 106, 116
G5 30 TO for SWE, 31, 41, 42, 62, 66, 86, 87, 97, 911
LJK 2-3 Moregard (-7, 9, -9, 3, -10)
G5 10 net for LJK, 14 TO for CHN, 34 Moregard faulted for the 3rd time and got a yellow card for arguing, 35, 55 TO for SWE, 65, 66, 76, 78, 88 net for LJK, 98, 99, 109, 1012
WCQ 3-0 Ranefur (10, 6, 4)
LSD 2-3 Kallberg (-10, 10, -8, -8)

WTT Fan Vote
58% vs 42%
WT Grp2
GER 1-3 JPN
Winter 3-2 Hashimoto (-9, 6, -8, 8, 8)
G4 71, 74 TO for GER, 84, 85 corner edge for JPN, 86, 96, 97, 107, 108, 118
G5 30, 33, 53, 54, 64, 66, 76, 77, 87 Hashimoto missed the loose FH sitter, 88, 118
Kaufmann 0-3 Harimoto (-4, -10, -7)
G1 79 TO for GER, 109, 1010, 1012
G3 93, 96 TO for JPN, 97, 117
HY 1-3 Hayata (-4, -8, -6, -5)
G2 49, 79 TO for GER, 710, 810, 811
G3 56 TO for JPN, 57, 67, 611
G4 02, 22, 27, 37, 38, 48, 49, 59, 511
Hayata looked to have adjusted her jet lag.
Winter 1-3 Harimoto (-6, -4, 7, -7)
G1 05, 25, 26, 46, 47, 67, 611
G3 14 TO for GER, 15, 45, 46, 96, 97, 117
G4 01, 11 dead net for GER, 15, 25, 26, 36, 39, 59, 69 TO for JPN, 610, 710, 711

WTT Fan Vote
87% vs 13%
WT Grp1
CHN 3-0 KOR
SYS 3-0 KNY (8, 4, 5)
WYD 3-0 Park Gahyeon (5, 6, 4)
KM 3-0 Yoo Siwoo (6, 9, 3)

 

[zeio]

In the name of World Table Tennis!

T2

 

[NextLevel]

Thr ball passes behind the head for Kallberg, the referee calls it. It does for Wang, silence. Enforcement is trash.

 

[Janard]

Lmao WCQ in a foul mood - "If there isn't, go find it!"

 

[dewnyc]

WCQ clipped the table with his finger early in the match, might be affected by it. Reminds me of Kristian Karlsson vs Jorgic to a lesser extent.

 

[zeio]

SWE apparently doesn't want to finish top of group. Well, no one does...

 

[NetProphet]

The rules are not about seeing the ball. I am not sure where this interpretation comes from. The rules are about the ball being visible throughout the serve motion and uncontroversially so.

The ball being visible throughout the serve is being able to see the ball.
What interpretation are you actually talking about?
There seems to be much assumption here. I know the rules say visible to the receiver at all times and I'm not disputing that.
So I suppose a picture might not be the best way to give an example because it doesn't seem to show the actual infraction.
It also doesn't show things from the angle that the opponent sees it.
Drawing a line straight up in that picture would indicate the ball passing behind the opponents head from the angle at which the photo is taken but of course the opponents head was somewhere else when he tossed, may have moved to where it is now as teg ball dropped and of course, looks different from where the opponent is actually standing.

To understand the initial point by 'pingpingnerd' I guess I would have to see a video.

Anyway, there should be no issues between us interpreting the rules correct, they are pretty clearly stated.
What's not clear is the angle that the opponent sees things from which I think is why >30° toss gets called far more than the hidden.
It's more difficult for the umpires to really know this because of the position/view they have during service.

 

[pingpongnerd]

How come table 2 is not available ?

 

[dewnyc]

Ranefur takes game 1 vs LSD

 

[dewnyc]

Crazy strawberries by Ranefur

Winter won against Hashimoto in 5

 

[NextLevel]

The ball being visible throughout the serve is being able to see the ball.
What interpretation are you actually talking about?
There seems to be much assumption here. I know the rules say visible to the receiver at all times and I'm not disputing that.
So I suppose a picture might not be the best way to give an example because it doesn't seem to show the actual infraction.
It also doesn't show things from the angle that the opponent sees it.
Drawing a line straight up in that picture would indicate the ball passing behind the opponents head from the angle at which the photo is taken but of course the opponents head was somewhere else when he tossed, may have moved to where it is now as teg ball dropped and of course, looks different from where the opponent is actually standing.

To understand the initial point by 'pingpingnerd' I guess I would have to see a video.

Anyway, there should be no issues between us interpreting the rules correct, they are pretty clearly stated.
What's not clear is the angle that the opponent sees things from which I think is why >30° toss gets called far more than the hidden.
It's more difficult for the umpires to really know this because of the position/view they have during service.

Sorry it is not something I am in the mood to discuss seriously. You can watch the match Wang vs Kallberg and see what Kallberg got faulted for. The point is visibility even when the ball is in the air. It should never at any point be obstructed by the body. This is baked into the rules, if you disagree that is fine. But this is not something that deserves a long conversation.

 

[NextLevel]

How come table 2 is not available ?

The power of the Japanese TV table tennis lobby.

 

[NextLevel]

SWE apparently doesn't want to finish top of group. Well, no one does...

They clearly do, they just decided to put Moregardh at 3 I suspect to guarantee the one point. May not come to that with how Ranefur is playing.