Stiga Helix Platinum ( Any review )
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Hell yeah!
I got the blade handed down by someone who wasn´t entirely happy, complete with two DNA Hybrid H. Very good combination, and when I tried Helix M I was expecting an explosive catapult effect compared to those, because Helix M is softer and non-sticky.
But this rubber behaves very well in the short game and feels extremely controlled in relation to the speed possibilities. From practice partners I hear that there´s more spin in my strokes.
I also tried Dignics80 on the Cybershape and the general feeling seemed quite similar to Helix.
The price unfortunately reflects a general trend and seems quite prohibitive. And that´s where everybody needs to ask themselves whether one really needs the hottest stuff with the newest technology or whether a trusted cheaper product might do.
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I’ve just switched to helix platinum xh from dna platinum xh for backhand and I was very disappointed at first. It was so bad I gave up and swapped sides which is when I tried the helix for forehand, and it suddenly made a lot more sense.
It has more spin, less linearity, and slightly thicker topsheet than dna platinum so for most peoples style it should be a big upgrade for the forehand but quite a downgrade for the backhand. I personally have a big brush loop swing on my forehand and more of a block or concise drive on my backhand.
The dna platinum is much much better than the helix platinum for blocking and backhand drives.
I think in the DNA, the rubber topsheet is thinner and the sponge is thicker, so it has a bit of a soft impact but then incredible raw power (without being bouncy). It has incredible speed and spin with small swings where you can press down on the top of the ball, which is harder to do on longer swings I.e. forehand…
On the helix, they made the topsheet more thick (ever so slightly), and the sponge back down to 2.2mm (like a tenergy). So, unless you have a super active block, it is worse than the DNA on the “small linear control shots” such as for driving and blocking. But for the attacking forehand and countertop the helix is a very good rubber and I can see now why Truls said he made the switch because his game has evolved... Especially also as it is slightly more grippy than the DNA platinum.
It has more spin, less linearity, and slightly thicker topsheet than dna platinum so for most peoples style it should be a big upgrade for the forehand but quite a downgrade for the backhand. I personally have a big brush loop swing on my forehand and more of a block or concise drive on my backhand.
The dna platinum is much much better than the helix platinum for blocking and backhand drives.
I think in the DNA, the rubber topsheet is thinner and the sponge is thicker, so it has a bit of a soft impact but then incredible raw power (without being bouncy). It has incredible speed and spin with small swings where you can press down on the top of the ball, which is harder to do on longer swings I.e. forehand…
On the helix, they made the topsheet more thick (ever so slightly), and the sponge back down to 2.2mm (like a tenergy). So, unless you have a super active block, it is worse than the DNA on the “small linear control shots” such as for driving and blocking. But for the attacking forehand and countertop the helix is a very good rubber and I can see now why Truls said he made the switch because his game has evolved... Especially also as it is slightly more grippy than the DNA platinum.
Speed: DNA platinum > Helix > Mantra pro.
Spin: Helix > Platinum > Mantra pro.
Dwell time: Helix > Mantra pro > Platinum.
Throw (High to low) Helix > Mantra pro > Platinum.
Spin: Helix > Platinum > Mantra pro.
Dwell time: Helix > Mantra pro > Platinum.
Throw (High to low) Helix > Mantra pro > Platinum.
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Absolutely agree. Overall a very good balanced rubber from Stiga. IMHO the best one nowadays.
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The helix fits well on the cybershape carbon and it felt good. It is fast kind of like the andro nuzn 55. I like the rubber.
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One could add grip:
Helix > Mantra/Platinum - difficult to compare Mantra and Platinum very different type of rubbers IMHO.
I do not think Helix is slower than DNA Platinum. It could be that when a lot of spin is induced more momentum goes into the spin. However, I feel that the Helix gives more than enough of speed. I have used it on:
Falck Carbon - works very well
Donic Waldner Offensive - fantastic spin machine
The near field game is better than both Mantra Pro and Platinum for me. For me backhand works better with Helix - I have a mix of looping, back hand smash, flats. Maybe backhand flats is Platinum better.
U like the helix more or nuzn 55? And how are they compared to each other ?
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I definitely prefer the Helix as it does everything so well . A well Balanced attacking rubber that I believe is very underrated!! My main problem with Nuzn 55 was the weight as for the Z 03 I couldn't control it in 2.7 and just about 2.5 . I'm now waiting to try Stiga Helix Hybrid, this this could be very interesting!!!
Ooh let me know the difference between the helix plat and hybrid! I like the nuzn 55 but as u said the weight is the problem if im gon use on both sides! But im doin mid pipes on one side now so trying to find a fh rubber that is like nuzn 55 or similiar. I did try k3 it was good but durability was Crap and it slips easily during humid days
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Totally agree about K3 great if you can afford to change your rubbers every month lol 😆 one thing I forgot to mention about the Helix is it has good durability ! Plus I use Med pips as well so find the balance of the blade perfect with the Helix.
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Slower then c55, I would’ve thought a Chinese hybrid would be slower than a European rubber
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I meant that jeykelll and Hyde c55 is a Chinese hybrid and this is a tensor so I would’ve thoght that helix platinum would be boucnier
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That's high praise for any rubber, I never tried any tenergy before but I like Helix Platinum M on my BH very much. Easy to lift back spin, create spin, if you accelerate, the speed is decent, it does it all well and the arc is high which is my preference too.
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I still think Helix rubbers stand out at the moment as the best "non sticky" Tensor rubbers.
But I am also not very surprised that Stiga have introduced a hybrid version also.
But I am also not very surprised that Stiga have introduced a hybrid version also.
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I am testing Helix Hybrid XH right now (I have Helix Platinum XH on another blade) and I don't think it is too redundant to Platinum. On Hybrid the pimples are slightly shorter and the topsheet is mildly sticky, thicker/softer than on Platinum. Hybrid acts how it is named. It acts a bit deader but with higher arc/more safety than Platinum. So far the Hybrid XH is fulfilling my needs for a more casual D09C. Longevity tbd because the Hybrid topsheet looks visually similar to a lot of other modern German hybrid topsheets like J1 and Hugo Trinity and I have only put 2 sessions onto my sheet
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I am trying Helix Platinum XH on backhand and I have to say I really like it too, how do you find the durability?
The discount on the hybrid on tt11 this week makes me really curious, how do you find it in comparison to J1 or first-ten-days-version-k3 (even if I'd probably try the 55 version for forehand)?
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I have a sheet of M, H and XH. Used M the most, H and XH I've been swapping around, I think I have put at least 40 hours on my M and it has yet to develop much of a wear spot (as opposed to a lot of newer Euro hybrids that start showing wear in the sweetspot in like 10-20 hours)
I can't really compare Hybrid XH to J1 because J1 is a step harder, Helix XH is more comparable to J2 in terms of hardness. They do share some similarities but while the topsheet of J2 feels firmer and snappier (better response in terms of spin and penetrating arc to more aggressive contact) the sponge of Helix is definitely 'higher tech' than on J2- Helix sponge holds the ball better and shoots the ball better the deeper you hit into it. J1 is definitely faster and more threatening than Helix XH but it also requires a much stronger impact to really get it going. Compared to K3 I feel Hybrid XH is definitely less explosive but the tradeoff is that it is safer and much steadier. But Hybrid 55 might be a different story
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