Europe Smash 2026, Malmö, 8/8-16

[NextLevel]

Dima usually loses to Jorgic so the fact he is competitive here is interesting.

EDIT: Made that call too early, was within the usual expectation...

 

[zeio]

After a win, you get a lecture. After a loss, the silence is deafening if there is no deflection...

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And karma for you. Stop acting like a child. I have better things to do than babysitting here.

MS R16
Ovtcharov 1-3 Jorgic (14) (-7, 8, -6, -10)

 

[NextLevel]

And karma for you. Stop acting like a child. I have better things to do than babysitting here.

MS R16
Ovtcharov 1-3 Jorgic (14) (-7, 8, -6, -10)

I dont think is or any one else deserves that language. You usually post long explanations of things when things ho your way and then ask for excuses like the fact a coach was not available. Dima lost, how is that Karma? You mean yhat the fact he can beat Harimoto and zlin Yun Ju and then lose to Jorgic hasn't been apparent?

 

[zeio]

I dont think is or any one else deserves that language. You usually post long explanations of things when things ho your way and then ask for excuses like the fact a coach was not available. Dima lost, how is that Karma? You mean yhat the fact he can beat Harimoto and zlin Yun Ju and then lose to Jorgic hasn't been apparent?

MS R16
Ovtcharov 1-3 Jorgic (14) (-7, 8, -6, -10)

2026/2/8
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...-cup-2026-5–8-february-2026.38866/post-563598

3-time back-to-back winner and 3-time finalist. Leading figure of the interim generation, with little doubt.

Europe Top-16 Cup Montreux 2026, Jorgic F ?-? A. Lebrun, SF 3-1 Duda
Europe Top-16 Cup Montreux 2025, Jorgic F 1-3 A. Lebrun, SF 3-1 Moregard
Europe Top-16 Cup Montreux 2024, Jorgic F 4-1 Moregard
Europe Top-16 Cup Montreux 2023, Jorgic F 4-2 QD
Europe Top-16 Cup Montreux 2022, Jorgic F 4-3 Moregard
Europe Top 16 Cup Montreux 2020, Jorgic F 1-4 Boll

2025/8/21
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...sh-sweden-august-14-24-2025.35820/post-536996

OJS is actually pretty bad even compared to his teammates, but somehow he beat WCQ in MS at ATTC 2024 and ultimately got a bronze medal. The youngest-ever All-Korea TTC singles champion and first-ever WTT SCT singles winner from South Korea.

真正的皇: 吴太子一年半参赛33次，20站一轮游也能堆出排名 (Truly royal: Prince Oh competed 33 times in 1.5 years and despite 20 first-round exits, still managed to rank up)

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9972303671

spxh 靠着父亲的资源拥有疯狂参赛的机会，31次成人赛，20次一轮游(不出线)，5次二轮游，一轮游率64.51%，而且大多数都是支线球挑的低级别比赛。更是创造惊人的连续8次一轮游记录。
今年靠着金奈球挑阵容不行➕绝世运气(晋级路上最强对手为普卡)，水了600分，直接变成前20，世排骗子。也能看出当今积分体系有多荒谬，即使你一轮游概率超过6成，只要刷参赛次数，都能硬生生把排名刷上来
IP属地:安徽来自Android客户端1楼2025-08-21 13:51回复
(Thanks to his father's resources [TL's note: Oh Sangeun], he's had a plethora of opportunities to compete. He's played 31 senior tournaments, 20 of which were first-round exits (out in prelim), and 5 of which were second-round exits, a 64.51% first-round exit rate. Most of these were low-level Feeder and Star Contender tournaments. He's also set an astonishing record of 8 consecutive first-round exits.
This year, thanks to the weak field of Star Contender Chennai and sheer luck (his strongest opponent on the way to the final was Pucar), he inflated his ranking by 600 points and landed in the top 20. What a WR con artist! This also highlights the absurdity of the current ranking point system. Even if your first-round exit probability exceeds 60%, you can still force your way up the ranking simply by increasing your participation)

2026/4/26
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/run-in-between-moregard-and-sbtf.36653/post-572719

Even a former player and a former head coach do not speak highly of Moregard's style. Go convince them.

Same with Hao Shuai, who still views Harimoto and LYJ as the top threats rather than Moregard and Felix as of World Cup 2026.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/wtt-finals-hong-kong-2025-12-10-14.35838/post-555705

MS F
Moregard (4) 2-4 Harimoto (-8, 5, -9, 10, -12, -2)
Former HKG player Tang Kwok Kei and former HKG head coach Chan Kong Wah after G5: 打啲瀟灑波冇用㗎 (There is no use playing elegant shots)

G5 demonstrated neatly the big gap between Harimoto and Togami/Matsushima. Harimoto played 1 more 7-game match as well. A well-deserved title.

 

[NextLevel]

MS R16
Ovtcharov 1-3 Jorgic (14) (-7, 8, -6, -10)

2026/2/8
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/europe-top-16-cup-2026-5–8-february-2026.38866/post-563598


2025/8/21
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...sh-sweden-august-14-24-2025.35820/post-536996


2026/4/26
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/run-in-between-moregard-and-sbtf.36653/post-572719

Okay - someone else may understand how that is a response to my question, but calling Dima a washed up veteran after the evidence shows he has beaten LYJ and Harimoto in the last year and then gloating over his loss is your prerogative, but I don't see the how that is karma.

 

[MatsushimaAlc]

Never seen this TTR implemetation before. Anyone know the rules here? How many % are you allowed to hide?

 

[zeio]

Never seen this TTR implemetation before. Anyone know the rules here? How many % are you allowed to hide?


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No clue. They keep changing it without keeping the fans in the loop but players are supposedly informed as per the handbook.

 

[passifid]

Probably 50% but should be 0%

This is a good game, a proper 2024 game when alexis was best euro player vs chinese and shidong going toe to toe in rallies and doing well

 

[biaxialerzug]

Damn! Massive win for Alexis!

 

[NextLevel]

Never seen this TTR implemetation before. Anyone know the rules here? How many % are you allowed to hide?


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Bobrow said that as long as any part of the ball is visible, the serve is good. I find it ridiculous, but that is the rule.

 

[kindof99]

I think we need to have a private room for zeio and nextlevel to fight things out to have more peace here

 

[kindof99]

Damn! Massive win for Alexis!

Can see that LSD was well prepared with the CNT already, but still not enough.

 

[kindof99]

Remember the time before pandemic, the final was almost always between two CNT members. Those days were gone.

 

[piligrim]

I think we need to have a private room for zeio and nextlevel to fight things out to have more peace here

Or just ban zeio and problem solved )))

 

[Oliverpool]

I think we need to have a private room for zeio and nextlevel to fight things out to have more peace here

I enjoy a lot of the post/links/views from zeio. But I also feel that some of the language and tone from him can be abrasive and rude and even condescending. Am
Not sure why he has
To answer it that way.

I can read and understand Chinese and even though I enioy many of the Chinese views and links as it brings different views and shows that different culture does
And do have different thought process. And we should just accept that. I believe the moderators already allow the Chinese editorials from zeio even though this is suppose to be an English forum. A German TT forum I go
To will warn you and remove any none german language and I would have thought this would be the case here. They allow links to non German site
But anything written has to be in German. I seen people being warned here when they were writing in Russian? Or some other language previously.

But frankly this aggression is getting tiring. I want to read views from all Walks of life and understand table tennis
More as to why some players
Do or do not do something when they are losing. Maybe they just could not pivot as I would like to believe instead of them being jumped on as useless or rubbish. They could be doing the same thing and keep
Losing but at the end of the day they are human and that’s why they are not number 1
Or even in the top 10. But they are human and deserve some
Respect to be playing at this level.

 

[piligrim]

I enjoy a lot of the post/links/views from zeio. But I also feel that some of the language and tone from him can be abrasive and rude and even condescending. Am
Not sure why he has
To answer it that way.

I can read and understand Chinese and even though I enioy many of the Chinese views and links as it brings different views and shows that different culture does
And do have different thought process. And we should just accept that. I believe the moderators already allow the Chinese editorials from zeio even though this is suppose to be an English forum

There is rules and it clearly says:

1. All posts must be written in English.

 

[TTLOVE]

I wonder why the Chinese are no longer able to dominate as they once did. The absence of Fan Zhendong has certainly left a gap that has to be filled by players who are not yet fully developed.

(Previously, members of the old guard used to provide support for the new team: take Wang Hao alongside Ma Long, Zhang Jike and Xu Xin, and later Ma Long and Xu Xin alongside Fan, Lin and the others.)

That said, however, Wang Chuqin and Lin Shidong – the current top two – are struggling against the new players. Why is that?

Are they not on the same level as Ma Long, Zhang Jike and the others?

Has the game changed to favour players outside the Chinese style – see Lebroun, Harimoto, Sora, LJY and others?

Back when the old 40mm cellulose ball was used, and even during the early years of plastic balls – perhaps up until 2019 – I remember that Chinese players always had the upper hand in prolonged rallies and on the counter-attack. Now they almost seem to be at a disadvantage. It seems much easier for non-Chinese players to stay in prolonged rallies, and they even seem to do so with less effort.

It almost seems as though they lack power compared to players from the past.

I don’t know if this might also be down to the equipment – perhaps the H3s are no longer ideal for this modern style of play?

 

[kindof99]

What puzzles me most is to try very hard to cite someone to support your argument. These days, you can not convince anyone based on what others say. But if someone like that, I am totally fine to ignore and skip the posts.

 

[kindof99]

I wonder why the Chinese are no longer able to dominate as they once did. The absence of Fan Zhendong has certainly left a gap that has to be filled by players who are not yet fully developed.

(Previously, members of the old guard used to provide support for the new team: take Wang Hao alongside Ma Long, Zhang Jike and Xu Xin, and later Ma Long and Xu Xin alongside Fan, Lin and the others.)

That said, however, Wang Chuqin and Lin Shidong – the current top two – are struggling against the new players. Why is that?

Are they not on the same level as Ma Long, Zhang Jike and the others?

Has the game changed to favour players outside the Chinese style – see Lebroun, Harimoto, Sora, LJY and others?

Back when the old 40mm cellulose ball was used, and even during the early years of plastic balls – perhaps up until 2019 – I remember that Chinese players always had the upper hand in prolonged rallies and on the counter-attack. Now they almost seem to be at a disadvantage. It seems much easier for non-Chinese players to stay in prolonged rallies, and they even seem to do so with less effort.

It almost seems as though they lack power compared to players from the past.

I don’t know if this might also be down to the equipment – perhaps the H3s are no longer ideal for this modern style of play?

The rest of the world are catching up and CNT has nothing new. I think when FZD and ML were in the team, there were some good competition and learning atmosphere inside the team. And now, it is totally different.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

LSD lose again. If consistently losing like this, then the bosses of CNT should just put him in XD and let him stay there. The least he got a medal chance in XD with KM.