ITTF-ATTU Asian Championships Tashkent 2026, 10/18-25

[Janard]

Down to the second singles on both sides to clinch the goldware lolll

 

[pingpongnerd]

I will never understand how Hayata is such a freebie for CNT, every times she played a CNT player it's like they already got her in their palm before the match even start. Almost as bad as Hirano during Tokyo Olympic cycle

There is a thrase " Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
The Japanese team has definitely fallen into this trap by persisting with hayata too long. By all mean play hayata against other teams, but in the final against the chinese, play some one like Sato or Odo. They can't do any worse than hayata.
Had they played Sato in the 3rd single spot tonight, they would have already won 3:1

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Men's JNT lost because of a chopper but fortunately Women's JNT has Hashimoto

 

[pingpongnerd]

Men's JNT lost because of a chopper but fortunately Women's JNT has Hashimoto

The Japanese womens team should have picked Sato as well

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

Honoka is the hero of the day!

 

[zeio]

WT F
CHN 2-3 JPN
CY 0-3 Hashimoto (-9, -9, -5)
G1 20, 21, 51, 54, 64, 65, 95, 98 TO for CHN, 911
G2 22, 25, 45, 46, 56, 57, 67, 68, 98, 911
G3 02, 12, 13, 43, 45, 55, 511
JNT: CNT "gaslighting" me?

WYD 3-2 Harimoto (-7, 9, 7, -12, 8)
G3 36, 56 TO for JPN, 76 slight net for WYD, 77, 117
G4 94, 99, 109, 1012
G5 31, 34, 44, 45, 75, 76, 106, 108, 118
WYD: You get back up from where you fall down.

KM 3-0 Hayata (7, 2, 4)
G1 41, 45, 65, 67, 117
G2 80, 81, 91 sideline edge for KM, 92, 112
G3 30 TO for JPN, 40, 41, 61, 62, 102, 104, 114

CY 0-3 Harimoto (-6, -8, -5)

WYD 1-3 Hashimoto (-10, -3, 6, -7)
G1 41, 42, 62, 64, 84, 86, 106, 109 TO for CHN, 1012
G2 05 eleven in a row, 15, 18, 28, 210, 310, 311
G3 30, 31, 41, 42, 52, 53, 63, 65, 95, 96, 116
G4 02, 12, 13, 43, 44, 54 side, 64 epic save by WYD, 69, 79, 711

Hashimoto becomes the 2nd player after Miwa to get 2 points off of CHN after ATTC 2024.

Many Tieba users wanted to see Hayata benched...

亚锦赛女团中日对决
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/11124947214
贴吧用户_QyyyWMS 感觉早田三单，张本一单，桥本二单
IP属地:广东来自Android客户端17楼2026-10-22 09:42收起回复
(It feels like Hayata will play 3rd singles, Harimoto 1st, and Hashimoto 2nd)
白丽薇: 早田最好都别出面，让长崎试试
2026-10-22 10:43回复
(It’s best if Hayata doesn’t step forward; let Nagasaki have a try)

JTTA: Should we amend the selection criteria again, or perhaps grow a backbone?
CNT: Hayata for LA28!

2025/10/15
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...s-2025-bhubaneswar-10-11-15.37489/post-545753

No Hirano, Hayata and Ito for LA28 will be the right thing to have for JNT.

2025/12/14
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/thread-about-japanese-players.38013/post-555503

It's in JTTA's best interest after WTT SCT London/Muscat 2025, XTWC 2025 and WTT F Hong Kong 2025. Doubles will be the main battlefield even though WR will be the major selection criterion.

Of the 3,
Hirano could remain somewhat competitive if she gives it another push given her sturdy body type (here and here) and to my surprise she will play WD with Kihara at Zennihon Takkyu 2026;
Hayata's injury- and disease-prone body type is just unsettling, and 3 years down the road?;
Ito's solo personality and the limit of her playing style and stubby body type are frankly out of tune with XT.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

lol no huge celebrations for 🇯🇵 Japan

Hashimoto didn’t even raise her arms or shout anything after her (tough) win

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Had they played Sato in the 3rd single spot tonight, they would have already won 3:1

Hard to say that for sure when both Hayata and Sato lost their recent encounters to Kuai Man narrowly in the decider and there are other factors at play but yeah probably would've been worth a shot.

Losing to a Chinese team without SYS and WMY would've been unfortunate.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

lol no huge celebrations for 🇯🇵 Japan

Hashimoto didn’t even raise her arms or shout anything after her (tough) win

I mean, everyone is aware of the elephant in the room...

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

I mean, everyone is aware of the elephant in the room...

A title is a title

 

[Janard]

ZQH totally unbothered by the chops on both his FH and BH

Proven wrong as usual

 

[zeio]

lol no huge celebrations for 🇯🇵 Japan

Hashimoto didn’t even raise her arms or shout anything after her (tough) win

No SYS and WMY. No fun. A title just a little more meaningful than the one at ATTC 2021 which CNT skipped. Pales in comparison with ATTC 2024, where WMY was missing as well.

Also, Hashimoto doesn't want to serve as a "pawn" for WT only.

 

[zeio]

MT SF
KOR 3-1 JPN
Kang Dongsoo 3-0 Shinozuka (8, 7, 17)
Park Ganghyeon 0-3 Harimoto (-12, -9, -6)
Park Gyuyeon 3-0 Matsushima (4, 8, 9)
G1 10, 12, 102, 104, 114
G2 64, 66, 76, 77, 107, 108, 118
G3 01, 31, 33, 43, 44, 74 TO for JPN, 76 TO for KOR, 77 big net for Matsushima, 97, 99, 119
Kang Dongsoo 3-1 Harimoto (2, -12, 0, 8)
G1 40, 41, 61, 62, 112
G2 20, 22, 32, 35, 45, 49, 69, 610, 910 TO for JPN, 1010 corner edge for KOR, 1011, 1211, 1214
G3 90 sideline edge for KOR, 110
G4 02, 12, 13, 63, 64 TO for KOR, 74, 75, 85, 86, 106, 108, 118

MT F
KOR 0-3 CHN
Kang Dongsoo 1-3 ZQH (-8, -5, 9, -9)
Park Gyuhyeon 0-3 LSD (-11, -8, -6)
Park Ganghyeon 1-3 XP (-12, -7, 9, -7)

A pleasant surprise for KNT, even considering their tradition of producing upsets. There's no telling they could produce more of them in XT at LA28.

 

[zeio]

Finally at that point 8 years later.

早田可以下了吧 (Can Hayata be dropped now?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/11127994193
古手步 直接美和带双削呗，你说奥运会有双打最多只能带一个削，问题是早田双打也就那样啊，伊藤平野都能下，凭啥早田不行，竞技体育还是成绩说话，颜值也不能换奖牌回来啊
IP属地:湖北来自Android客户端1楼2026-10-22 22:35回复
(Just Miwa and double chopper. You might argue that for the Olympics, you can only bring one chopper for the doubles events, but let’s be honest: Hayata’s doubles performance is nothing special anyway. If Ito and Hirano can be dropped from the lineup, why can’t Hayata? In competitive sports, results are all that matter; you can’t exactly trade good looks for Olympic medals)

宝宝金水 理论上洛奥要上双削，必须有一削稳稳把早田踢下二号位，另一削拿推荐位，且双削保持竞争力？
IP属地:广东来自iPhone客户端5楼2026-10-22 22:44收起回复
(Theoretically, to field double chopper for LA Olympics, one of them would need to definitively displace Hayata from the number two spot, while the other would have to secure a nomination—and both would need to remain competitive, right?)
孤星坠落6K: 应该就是这种解法了，桥本佐藤其中一个踢掉二号 然后另一个靠双削女双拿推荐位，不然一个都去不了
2026-10-22 23:12回复
(This seems to be the only viable solution: have either Hashimoto or Sato knock out the No. 2, and then secure a recommendation spot through their performance in women’s doubles—otherwise, neither of them will make it)

2025/8/27
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/wtt-contender-almaty-2025-sep-2-7.37711/post-538218

Miyazaki already made it clear in his book from 2018. We saw that "philosophy" at work for the ATTC 2024 selection trial where Sato and Hashimoto lost to Odo and Yokoi ultimately got selected for the WD event.

That's probably what Sato was talking about by "running away from facing reality". Therefore, both Hashimoto and Sato (yet belonging to different teams) need to be successful to even have a decent shot (even more so now that Olympic WD is back). They are beneficial to the so-called team (JNT) yet get eaten alive by their teammates that are not quite real teammates. Not much different from China (who comes clean about the reality), but Japan has the gall to throw the term "fairness" around and many ignorant fans in Japan bash China for that, yet aren't even aware of their own double standards.

2026/10/10
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/china-smash-2026-beijing-10-1-11.39809/post-591533

JTTA needs to give Harimoto/Hashimoto another try and Harimoto/Sato as well as Hashimoto/Sato a try. This rigidity is getting them nowhere. If finishing as the finalists only is their goal, then Kihara/Nagasaki have done way better than Harimoto/Hayata.

 

[JackJohnson]

There is a thrase " Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
The Japanese team has definitely fallen into this trap by persisting with hayata too long. By all mean play hayata against other teams, but in the final against the chinese, play some one like Sato or Odo. They can't do any worse than hayata.
Had they played Sato in the 3rd single spot tonight, they would have already won 3:1

I suggested that for the WTTTC Final vs China that Japan should not have selected Hayata for 2nd singles. She lost both her matches against SYS and WMY and they lost the overall match 3-2. At the time would have been better to select Rin Mende as the China players rarely played with her or not at all compared to Miyu Nagasaki. Unfortunately Sato was not selected for this event.

I was told that by not selecting Hayata it will affect the team morale but the same thing keeps happening again where she loses to every Chinese player in a team match.

I hope Japan try and selects both Hashimoto and Sato in future events as I feel like their chances of winning against China when SYS and WMY are on the team are greater with these 2 players along with Miwa than continuing selecting Hayata and expecting the same outcome over again.

 

[zeio]

Finally ran into a Tieba post where Hayata is described as cancer cells...

日本女乒啥时候能把双削抬上来？ (When will the JNT bring double chopper to the forefront?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/11128160868
超级大鸡排 应该早点把早田希娜踢开了，这货就是毒瘤。张本美和也应该专注单打了，松岛和张本美和的组合也应该拆了，浪费时间浪费精力，日女双削打双曼组合应该有一点赢面，早美组合看不到希望。
IP属地:广东来自Android客户端1楼2026-10-23 00:19回复
(They should have gotten rid of Hayata Hina a long time ago; she’s nothing but a malignant tumor to the team. Harimoto Miwa ought to focus on singles, and the pairing of Matsushima and Harimoto Miwa should be broken up—it’s just a waste of time and energy. JPN women double chopper might actually stand a chance against double Man pair, but the Haya[ta]/Mi[wa] pairing is a dead end.)

2025/10/16
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...s-2025-bhubaneswar-10-11-15.37489/post-545814

If the XTWC format is used for LA28, XT will only need 1 singles player for each gender. And assuming 3 players per NOC is still the limit, Ito will become the 3rd wheel with Harimoto, Hashimoto and Odo for XT. Harimoto and Hashimoto or Odo for WS, Harimoto/Odo or even Hashimoto for WD and Harimoto/Matsushima for XD are currently the best combinations given the outlook.

Ito and Hayata are now the "cancer cells" in the team that not just care about themselves only but are eating away at team morale by suppressing their teammates while they can't do jack against the CNT, something that CNT is eager to see continuing. Harimoto/Hirano simply doesn't work (they didn't even work on WD) and the lineup is built around the XT rather than WS.

p.s.
From the standpoint of results against CNT, Harimoto/Kihara (Asian Games 2022) and Kihara/Nagasaki (WTGF 2019) have both defeated SYS/WMY in WD. The problem is Harimoto/Kihara then lost to SYB/JJH in the SF. SYB and Ryu Hanna will likely be the WD pair plus another in XT for LA28. Odo/Yokoi lost to that pair at WTTC 2025. A favorite pair for the podium without a doubt, and sticking out like a sore thumb for JNT.

Given all that, Harimoto/Kihara/Nagasaki could also theoretically get the job done, where a podium finish is a little less certain but can make CNT sweat bullets.

 

[NextLevel]

I suggested that for the WTTTC Final vs China that Japan should not have selected Hayata for 2nd singles. She lost both her matches against SYS and WMY and they lost the overall match 3-2. At the time would have been better to select Rin Mende as the China players rarely played with her or not at all compared to Miyu Nagasaki. Unfortunately Sato was not selected for this event.

I was told that by not selecting Hayata it will affect the team morale but the same thing keeps happening again where she loses to every Chinese player in a team match.

I hope Japan try and selects both Hashimoto and Sato in future events as I feel like their chances of winning against China when SYS and WMY are on the team are greater with these 2 players along with Miwa than continuing selecting Hayata and expecting the same outcome over again.

So a couple of things that people need to remember when they make these posts about getting rid of Hayata.

The first is that neither SYS or WMY came. We saw the last time WMY played Sato, who has better WTTC results than Hashimoto this year.

The second thing is that HH played the only player on the CNT who will likely be on the main team, and a player who after SYS and WMY matches up with her pretty well. So she didn't just play anyone on the CNT, she played the best player on the CNT at this event, who was probably put in the slot because the CNT was hoping she would play Hashimoto, which probably says a lot.

Finally, Hayata is not *selected*. Hayata qualifies by ranking. And even for this match, she played outside her slot, which means she agreed with the team agenda. Maybe she was hoping for Chen Yi but she got Kuai Man regardless. In any case, she is not going to win easily vs the CNT, she has been the dominant non-CNT player since after the Tokyo Olympics until the emergence of Miwa Harimoto.

All of which is to say that for a country like Japan, it sets a bad precedent if you start with the argument that a player who is playing better than their teammates in just about every measurable way should not be allowed to play. Remember, Hayata did not play Wang Yidi or Chen Yi and she may very well have lost to them, but neither of them are likely to be on LA 2028, She played the only player who is likely to be in LA 2028. She did what she does but it clearly wasn't good enough. But the ramifications of saying that a player who qualifies to play should not be selected to play based on objective measures has ramifications that even China cannot fully avoid in modern times. As long as you can come up with a qualification criteria that is reasonable and objective and that allows everyone to understand its basis, whether it be weighting heavier for all players losses to CNT players etc., that is better than just targeting Hayata because it is the cool thing these days. Even in China now, they pick the players that win the internal trials or the ones that qualify by WR or even when the rules were changed to remove Wang Yidi, the new standard ended up hurting Wang Manyu. So it wasn't just remove WYD, it was a new points system that was applied and when WMY failed it, it wasn't adjusted to only target WYD.

So it is not just *team morale*, it is the team concept of meritocracy that gets affected when you drop a player who has outperformed their peers. Such things ruin countries. It requires more than just targetting one play, and it is much easier for an event like this when you have 5 players on a team and harder for events like the Olympics when all 3 players are required.

 

[zeio]

I suggested that for the WTTTC Final vs China that Japan should not have selected Hayata for 2nd singles. She lost both her matches against SYS and WMY and they lost the overall match 3-2. At the time would have been better to select Rin Mende as the China players rarely played with her or not at all compared to Miyu Nagasaki. Unfortunately Sato was not selected for this event.

I was told that by not selecting Hayata it will affect the team morale but the same thing keeps happening again where she loses to every Chinese player in a team match.

I hope Japan try and selects both Hashimoto and Sato in future events as I feel like their chances of winning against China when SYS and WMY are on the team are greater with these 2 players along with Miwa than continuing selecting Hayata and expecting the same outcome over again.

Some Tieba users agree.

一个削球，打的世界女乒闻风丧胆
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/11127950504
胡杨cu 日本打团体应该放弃早田
张本，大藤，双削
从这4个人中，任选3个
那么国乒即使全主力也不会轻松
IP属地:湖南来自Android客户端7楼2026-10-22 22:23收起回复
(For the team event, Japan should drop Hayata
Harimoto, Odo, and double chopper
Pick any 3 from these 4
Then even if CNT fields its full-strength lineup, it won’t be an easy match)
🐺藏獒: 打国乒，确实该放弃早田吉祥物，跟平野伊藤一样了，双削+美和打海产不在的中国女团，几乎可以说是稳赢了。 除了海产，国乒其他人打削球都看运气
2026-10-22 22:26回复
(Against the CNT, they really should drop mascot Hayata, who is much like Hirano and Ito. With double chopper plus Miwa, they’d have a near-guaranteed win against the CHN WT without seafood [SYS and WMY]. Aside from seafood, the rest of the CNT basically has to rely on luck when facing choppers)
做个可爱的人: 大腾也不太行
2026-10-22 22:45回复
(Odo isn't that great either)

 

[kindof99]

Men's JNT lost because of a chopper but fortunately Women's JNT has Hashimoto

I did not see a Japanese national men's team there. Only three Japanese players who care less than us about winning.

 

[kindof99]

lol no huge celebrations for 🇯🇵 Japan

Hashimoto didn’t even raise her arms or shout anything after her (tough) win

Everyone is getting used to it, like you and me