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Miwa is really cute. She's going to be a big star in Japan
 
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Feel bad for LGY. The man was crying.
Blame himself. He convincingly beat WCQ and was leading 3 sets against ML. He also lead in the 4th game and everyone thought he about to win his 1st World Cup. But he choked again! Too much respect to his opponent, IMHO.

I'm so happy ML won the match. I can watch his game if he lose before the final in tournaments but so heart breaking to see if he's losing in final.
 
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王艺迪这是对🇯🇵有心理阴影了吧 (Is WYD suffering from PTSD with 🇯🇵?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8984335934
汗耗鸟 17年都被降到二队了,全运会逆袭进4强,不仅重回一队又在新周期晋升五大主力,还拿了三个世界冠军,可以了,本身就没有top3级别的实力,被强行拔高到这个程度也没用,努力过就好,争取在后面某次比赛里打个漂亮仗然后见好就收退役吧
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After being relegated to the B team in 2017, she counterattacked and reached SF in the National Games. Not only did she return to the A team, she was promoted to the top 5 main players in the new cycle, and she also won 3 world titles. That's good enough. She doesn't have the top-3 level strength, and it’s useless to be forcibly promoted to this level. It's fine to have worked hard, and strive to have a good fight in a certain tournament later on, and then retire on a good note.

我亲爱的Mima啊 (My dear Mima)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8983639577
小嘟嘟酱 伊藤美诚把机会让给木原,给木原当教练吧 (Just give the opportunity to Kihara and become her coach, Ito Mima)
IP属地:新疆来自Android客户端4楼2024-04-17 20:09收起回复
孙颖莎(巴黎奥运冠军: 石川退役把机会给了美和,伊藤美诚退下来,木原就有更多机会参加限4比赛 (Ishikawa retired and gave Miwa the opportunity. Once Ito Mima retires, Kihara will have more opportunities to participate in 4 per NER competitions)
2024-4-17 20:13回复
咒術少校: 這次我同意 (I concur this time)
2024-4-17 20:18回复

風起时 伊藤无了?……很难评 (No more Ito?…Hard to comment)
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孙颖莎(巴黎奥运冠军: 跟谁都55开了,内战外战都是55开 (It's 50-50 against everyone, even in civil and foreign wars)
2024-4-17 20:14回复
風起时: 回复 孙颖莎(巴黎奥运冠军 :可别,你应该说打野鸡五五开, (No, you should say it’s 50-50 against the common pheasants [TL's note: Those who didn't receive formal trainings])
2024-4-17 20:15回复
孙颖莎(巴黎奥运冠军: 回复 風起时 :伊藤美诚估计打桥本销球都不行了 (Ito Mima probably won’t be able to beat chopper Hashimoto anymore)
2024-4-17 20:18回复
孙颖莎(巴黎奥运冠军: 回复 風起时 :伊藤美诚退役吧,越来越多翻身了,斯佐科斯估计下次也能翻身伊藤 (Just retire, Ito Mima. More and more players are turning the tables on her. I guess Szocs will also be able to turn the tables on Ito next time.)
2024-4-17 20:18回复

咒術少校 難以評價 實在 丟臉 (It's hard to evaluate and really embarrassing)
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Leah111 退吧!奥运打不了!联赛打不了!别玩了! (Just retire! No Olympics! No T.League! Just quit!)
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Lmao, ITO, FZD, LGY, WCQ,... please retire you all
Well, ML considered retiring after losing to WH 3 times in WTTC and ZJK at World Cup 2014. So you can't blame them.
 
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And now suddenly FZD is in trouble in the 2024 Race to Paris.
That's not the Chinese selection ranking list. And he is still ahead of all foreign players. So is he in some trouble, yes if Felix or Lin overtake him and there is no separation by association but right now he is still due for a top 2 seed at the Olympics and that is all he needs.
 
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That's not the Chinese selection ranking list. And he is still ahead of all foreign players. So is he in some trouble, yes if Felix or Lin overtake him and there is no separation by association but right now he is still due for a top 2 seed at the Olympics and that is all he needs.
True, but I do believe the World Cup is one of the tournaments that carries some weight in China's internal rankings so it'd be interesting to know how close FZD and ML are internally. Saudi Smash starts next week so we'll soon see what FZD's state is.
 
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Post-Match Interviews
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ML on 4-3 LGY
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaNIWv4rT
SYS on 4-3 WMY
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaMTYvyrQ

SF
Harimoto on 0-4 LGY
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaDXba0wz
LGY
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaDWh1skx
CM on 2-4 SYS
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaDGu3xAW
SYS
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaDBfAgZa
ML on 4-0 WCQ
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaD4flEGL
WMY on 4-2 Harimoto
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaCJlAtbd

QF
WCQ on 4-1 JWJ
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oauu9fL3W
SYS on 4-2 CIC
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oau8ukA4M
FZD on 2-4 LGY
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OatGzFUM5
LGY
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OatDG1yeL
WMY on 4-1 Hayata
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oat9xb8iw
CM on 4-0 Hirano
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OarBGEdnH
ML on 4-2 Togami
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OarpjhUSU

R16
WCQ on 4-2 Calderano
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oal7wrGP3
SYS on 4-1 CXT
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OakhFut6t
FZD on 4-3 LSD
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OakfilesL
WMY on 4-1 Szocs
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OajGifFjx
CM on 4-0 S. Sawettabut
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oai5QrThy
ML on 4-2 F. Lebrun
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OahjZALv1
LGY on 4-2 Jorgic
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OagYpgAlB

Day 3 of Grp
LJK on 4-0 Karlsson
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OabHFvhwF
SYS on 4-0 CSY
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OabhFAH3i
FZD on 3-1 WCT
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaaVv1qNH
CXT on 2-2 Paranang
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaajZciyf
LSD on A. Lebrun
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oaa5irzr0
WMY on 4-0 Batra
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oa9P13Gzl
LGY on 4-0 CCY
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oa94b0b1l
KM on 2-2 JJH
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oa8CmcRbe
WCQ on 4-0 Gerassimenko
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oa8nkkwCi
CM on 3-1 Akula
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oa81Xu8uN
ML on 4-0 Edward Ly
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oa7D7mOHx
WYD on 2-2 SXN
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oa7cdjGes

Day 2 of Grp
KM on 4-0 Lay Jian Fang
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oa1yD9dnK

Day 1 of Grp
WCQ on 2-2 AJH
https://weibo.com/7556183438/O9SPSqkRa
CXT on Liu Hsing-Yin
https://weibo.com/7556183438/O9SB6aw4H
WMY on 4-0 Diaconu
https://weibo.com/7556183438/O9S36mpZR
SYS on 4-0 ZCZ
https://weibo.com/7556183438/O9RIfnyLH
LJK on 4-0 Nicholas Lum
https://weibo.com/7556183438/O9RqDroDo
LGY on 2-2 Pucar
https://weibo.com/7556183438/O9QRZwyfv
WYD on 3-1 DHK
https://weibo.com/7556183438/O9PXqBrw0
LSD on 4-0 Alberto Mino
https://weibo.com/7556183438/O9PJ03Lry
FZD on 4-0 Duda
https://weibo.com/7556183438/O9PsgFML2
ML on 4-0 Aditya Sareen
https://weibo.com/7556183438/O9OLYwhae
CM on 4-0 Bajor
https://weibo.com/7556183438/O9OwBqRFn
 
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Thought matches against other Japanese players didn't count? You really ought to keep your story straight.

Also, expecting your thoughts on the Hirano loss. Change course based on new accuracy or preserve your fragile ego? Looks like you're grasping at straws right now with the whole injury thing. Absolutely zero talk about it yesterday or indication of it during the match today. Maybe wait for some confirmation before pushing that angle.

And who's nagging? You're the guy with the elephant memory who can't seem to let go of old arguments. I just want to chat happily about the action going on in an event but you keep coming in with digs and I gotta respond to your antisocial obsessiveness. This is like, what, the 5th or 6th thread where you've necro'd that old argument after I've already forgotten that you exist?

I had thought you'd have reversed course on your 'player X will never win because they've disappointmed me and I'm done with them' argument when Hayata herself broke a double digit loss streak to CM just a month or two later. Apparently you're slow on the uptake so I'll keep engaging if you keep proddding. Funny thing is I actually agree with you on Hirano mostly. But if you're going to go so hard on some these players for their bad short term results, then you should accept the same criticism when your favorite also goes down and your personal narratives are weakened. Don't be surprised when people are overly critical of you if you're constantly overly critical of everybody else.
Getting back to this as I didn't have time to dig up. Hayata gave the reason behind losing to CIC at WTT SCT Goa 2023 and then Sawettabut at Singapore Smash 2023. Reproducing below for future reference so I don't have to keep digging it up when someone else decides to act like an ass.

Hirano and Hayata barely getting past JJH and SYB and then losing to CM and WMY in similar fashion here is really nothing to write home about for either of them as I have foreshadowed. In fact, one could argue Hayata has fared worse after WTTC 2024 as she came down with a fever at Singapore Smash 2024 and now playing like this at World Cup 2024. Also know that Mizutani is more impressed by Hirano's play at WTTC 2024, so your comparison of Hayata beating CM and Hirano losing to CM have little bearing here.

https://web.archive.org/web/2024012...ytabletennis.net/forum/topic91479_page22.html (03/14/2023 at 1:53am, 03/14/2023 at 3:13pm)
Hayata's comment after 3-1 Alhodaby. She couldn't play as imagined at WTT SCT Goa because of the fatigue from Zennhion Takkyu in January...

That's a very creative excuse.

https://rallys.online/topic/international/230312singaporesmashhayata/
WTTスターコンテンダーゴアでは思うようなプレーが出来ず、まだ1月の全日本選手権の疲れが残っている部分があります。今は自分の卓球をまた取り戻すために、徐々にプレーを作り直している段階です。

大会が続き、自信を持って試合に臨める程のトレーニングは積めていませんが、今後このような状況でも、試合に勝たなければいけない状況があると思います。

そのため今大会では、できるだけ自分のコンディションを整えて、100%の状態に持って行って試合ができるように頑張っていきたいと思います。
 
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Zeio, whilst I greatly appreciate how much effort you put into your posts, everything all referenced and content sourced from various non-English message boards, but... Why is it that you always seem to be involved in about four heated arguments that have crossed the line of friendly debate?
 
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Zeio, whilst I greatly appreciate how much effort you put into your posts, everything all referenced and content sourced from various non-English message boards, but... Why is it that you always seem to be involved in about four heated arguments that have crossed the line of friendly debate?
waiting for Zeio's retire all players lists
 
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Zeio, whilst I greatly appreciate how much effort you put into your posts, everything all referenced and content sourced from various non-English message boards, but... Why is it that you always seem to be involved in about four heated arguments that have crossed the line of friendly debate?
Don't ask me. Ask them. There's nothing groundbreaking with my views, and I've backed them up with comments from Tieba/Douban, 5ch/Yahoo JP, even the players.

I post my views and they have a problem (no attempt to back themselves up for the most part) and I keep getting ridiculed besides the name calling. What's the problem when I exercise the right of self-defense?
 
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Don't ask me. Ask them. There's nothing groundbreaking with my views, and I've backed them up with comments from Tieba/Douban, 5ch/Yahoo JP, even the players.

I post my views and they have a problem (no attempt to back themselves up for the most part) and I keep getting ridiculed besides the name calling. What's the problem when I exercise the right of self-defense?
what makes you think the voice of forum users in asia is worth more than the voice of forums members from the western world?
 
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what makes you think the voice of forum users in asia is worth more than the voice of forums members from the western world?
Didn't follow all the thread, so I'm not sure if you talk about the ethnicy of this forum, but it is reasonable that the asian audience is more involved asian players.

As would western audience be more invested into western players. I think it's a relativity thing and not about which audience voiced what.
 
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More Tieba comments for World Cup 2024.

最终,小胖成了马龙传奇的背景板…… (In the end, Xiaopang became the backdrop of Ma Long's legend...)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8987428143
魔王天下001 生不逢时 小胖巅峰期都过了还没等来未来是他的时候 感觉可以比马龙先退役了 (Born at the wrong time. He has passed his prime and still couldn't wait out for his turn to come in the future. It feels like he can retire before Ma Long does)
IP属地:上海来自iPhone客户端2楼2024-04-20 20:40收起回复
马超50abc: 确实,这俩谁先退役不一定,至少谁先失去冠军实力,不好说 (Indeed, it is not certain which of the two will retire first, at least it is hard to say who will lose title-competing strength first)
2024-4-20 23:22回复
贴吧用户_JQWtPAC: 小胖要是出现在现在会有多牛逼 (How awesome would Xiaopang be if he appeared now?)
2024-4-21 09:26回复
六眼飞鱼不是鱼: 先退也挺好的,总感觉2025年,胖子就跑路了 (It’s good to retire first. I always feel that in 2025, Fatty [TL's note: LGL] will sneak away)
2024-4-21 21:14回复
思念遥不可及: 回复 六眼飞鱼不是鱼 :说实话,巴黎结束后,估计退役了。。。 (To be honest, he'll probably retire after Paris...)
2024-4-24 22:40回复

继忆依旧 楚圣今天晚上感受到了小胖的绝望 (Saint Chu felt Xiaopang’s despair tonight)
IP属地:福建5楼2024-04-20 20:44收起回复
想当个天才: 小胖大多数3比4每次都差点,楚圣今天被零封估计得懵了 (Xiaopang was mostly 3-4, just a little bit short every time. Saint Chu was probably stunned by being shut out today)
2024-4-20 21:10回复
这那7: 不对不对!还没开始绝望就结束了!晚上梦里绝望吧。 (No, no! It was over before he started to despair! Depair in your dreams tonight.)
2024-4-20 21:27回复
玫瑰蓓蕾燃不开: 那能一样吗 小胖每次基本上都是有希望 总在最后关头输给马龙 昨天是直接横扫 直接给骰子打的找不着北了 (Is it even comparable? Xiaopang basically has hope every time. He always lost to Ma Long at the last minute. It was a shutout yesterday, where he swept Dice [TL's note: WCQ] to the point the latter couldn't find his way)
2024-4-21 06:47回复
九波05881: 难道不是里约科? (Isn't it Rio Ke [TL's note: ZJK]?)
2024-4-21 09:45回复
横打不会: 回复 九波05881 :里约科那会儿本来就是残血了,而且好歹大满贯了。 (Rio Ke was already half-crippled at that time, and at least he was a Grand Slam holder.)
2024-4-21 11:28回复
随便取个昵称: 回复 横打不会 :马龙零封张继科又何止只有里约科。 (It wasn't just Rio Ke that Ma Long beat Zhang Jike in straight games.)
2024-4-23 01:36回复
火海兼修: 回复 九波05881 :里约科还好,16年状态已经下滑很多了,能守半区就是完成任务了。而且当时也已经大满贯了,属于最后一舞了 (Rio Ke was still decent, where his form had declined a lot in 2016. He accomplished his mission by defending his half of the draw. And he was already a Grand Slam holder. It was the last dance)
2024-4-24 16:29回复

铭在剑上的誓言 马龙:如果没有我在,不知有几人称王,几人称帝 (Ma Long: If I weren’t here, who knows how many persons have laid claim to the throne)
IP属地:安徽来自Android客户端7楼2024-04-20 20:50收起回复
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wu条悟: 说实话,没有龙在,就只有胖称帝啊,那几个不是硬捧上来的吗,东京周期就该他们接班,太拉胯硬生生拖到巴黎周期才勉勉强强捧上班的 (To be honest, if there were no Long, only Chubby would become the emperor. Weren’t those few made to take over by force? It was their turn to take over in the Tokyo cycle, but they sucked so bad that it dragged on until the Paris cycle and were propped up to barely accede)
2024-4-23 19:41回复

关南啊 换种说法,樊振东能在马龙时代拿到现在的成就也很强了,去掉一个含金量不行的世锦赛也有四个世界杯和一个世锦赛,属实是既生瑜何生亮了 (To put it another way, Fan Zhendong was able to accomplish his current achievements in the Ma Long era. Even excluding that one WTTC that lacks gold content, there are still four World Cups and one WTTC, a prime example of Zhou Yu and Zhuge Liang)
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夜yu0 骰子不是背景墙了? (Isn’t Dice a backdrop?)
IP属地:陕西来自Android客户端18楼2024-04-20 21:18收起回复
无敌的金箍棒: 他的成绩连成为背景板的资格都没有吧跟马龙同时代的运动员,也就张继科、樊振东有资格成为背景板,许昕都勉勉强强 (His results don't even qualify him to be a backdrop. Among athletes of Ma Long's generation, Zhang Jike and Fan Zhendong are the only ones who are qualified to be a backdrop, even Xu Xin is hardly qualified)
2024-4-20 21:23回复
夜yu0: 回复 无敌的金箍棒 :说的也是,今晚我真没想到赢,看高远比赛了 (That's true. I really didn't expect him to win tonight. I went to watch Gaoyuan's match)
2024-4-20 21:35回复

枫锤咖啡 小胖其实已经打的很好了,两个世乒 , N个世界杯, 除了大满贯的最好成绩了,也就大力的三世乒能和小胖掰掰 (Xiaopang has actually played very well, with two WTTC and N World Cups. Best results apart from the Grand Slam holders. Only Da Li's [TL's note: WLQ] three WTTC can compare with Xiaopang)
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无敌的金箍棒: 马龙,谁还没有三世乒啊 (Ma Long, who hasn’t had three WTTC?)
2024-4-21 08:58回复
嘻嘻哈哈: 个人觉得樊振东的成绩和地位不比某科低。一是一个奥运会抵不了那么多冠军之和,二是樊振东对国乒的贡献、功劳苦劳(如承担团体一单次数)远超某科。所以樊的成绩要比某科高。既然某科都比得过,刘孔这些大满贯就更不在话下了。 (Personally, I feel that Fan Zhendong's results and status are no lower than a certain Ke. First, one Olympic Games cannot be worth the sum of so many titles. Second, Fan Zhendong's contribution and hard work (such as the number of 1st singles in team event) to CNT far exceeds that of a certain Ke. So Fan’s results are higher than a certain Ke. Since he can compare with a certain Ke, Liu/Kong's Grand Slams are not out of the question.)
2024-4-21 09:16回复
贴吧用户_G2U3te4: 回复 嘻嘻哈哈 :不太好说,东拿个奥运就稳压,如果没有多俩世界杯少一个奥运,休斯顿拿的还有争议,赌到底凑了一整套,要是巴黎拿不下来不好比得过赌,世界杯含金量明显还是比那俩低的 (It’s hard to say. If Dong wins an Olympics, he will be greater by a margin. If there were not two more World Cups and one less Olympics, his Houston’s win is still controversial. After all, Gamble has collected a complete set. If he couldn't take it in Paris, then he is not greater than Gamble. The gold content of the World Cup is obviously lower than that of those two)
2024-4-23 00:46回复
嘻嘻哈哈: 回复 贴吧用户_G2U3te4 :樊比张多的不止世界杯啊,还有洲际赛、全国赛、公开赛、世一时长等一大堆啊,这一堆东西加起来还比不过一个奥运吗 (Not like Fan only has more World Cups than Zhang, there is also intercontinental competitions, national competitions, Opens, World No.1, etc. Are all these things combined not as good as one Olympic Games?)
2024-4-23 01:03回复
有限之卡尔德: 回复 嘻嘻哈哈 :比不了,奥运至高无上 (No comparison, the Olympics are supreme)
2024-4-23 02:54回复
枫锤咖啡: 回复 嘻嘻哈哈 :主要是很多人有大满贯默秒全的概念,其实小胖荣誉不比jk少 (The main reason is that many people have the concept of "Grand Slam overrides everything" by default. In fact, Xiaopang’s honor is no less than that of JK)
2024-4-24 21:07回复
欧拉: 回复 嘻嘻哈哈 :不光是奥运,胖的第一个世乒赛占了ban山的便宜 (Not only the Olympics, Chubby took advantage of Mountain Ban [TL's note: ML skipping WTTC 2021] in his first WTTC)
2024-4-25 15:18回复

醉雪wfin 这下变成未来是林诗栋的了 (Now the future belongs to Lin Shidong)
IP属地:澳大利亚来自Android客户端26楼2024-04-21 00:42回复

因幡天为 你觉得第二圈大满贯从谁手里拿的?还最终 (In the end? From Whom do you think he got the second Grand Slam?)
IP属地:江苏来自Android客户端35楼2024-04-21 11:43回复

liaoyl008 马龙算大器晚成的球员,27岁拿第一个世乒赛,28岁拿奥运男单金牌。小胖同年龄段所取得的成绩比马龙强很多,现在说背景板为时尚早。两位都是伟大的球员,不要为了捧一个而踩另一个。 (Ma Long is considered a late bloomer. He won his first WTTC at the age of 27 and the Olympic men's singles gold medal at 28. Xiaopang's achievements at the same age are much better than Ma Long. It's too early to label him a backdrop. Both are great players, don't step on the other just to praise one over the other.)
IP属地:广东来自Android客户端38楼2024-04-21 23:54收起回复
零度blood: 话说回来有“背景板”的言论也不是空穴来风,马龙在小胖身上拿了一圈大满贯…… (Having said that, the remarks about "backdrop" are not groundless. Ma Long won a Grand Slam on Xiaopang...)
2024-4-22 18:05回复
liaoyl008: 小胖比马龙小9岁,马龙当年做过多少人的背景板? (Xiaopang is 9 years younger than Ma Long. How many people did Ma Long serve as the backdrop for?)
2024-4-22 23:50回复
豌豆加菲: 回复 liaoyl008 :呵呵呵,马龙22岁就拿了第一个世界杯一56连胜了,樊振东如果不靠教练组什么时候拿第一个世乒赛很难说,怎么好意思说同年龄取得的成绩比马龙强很多的? (Hahaha, Ma Long won his first World Cup at the age of 22 [TL's note: 23.9] and has a 56-game winning streak. It is difficult to say when Fan Zhendong would win his first WTTC without relying on the coaching staff. How can he have the nerve to say that he has achieved much better results than Ma Long at the same age?)
2024-4-23 15:05回复
liaoyl008: 回复 豌豆加菲 :小胖23岁就已经4个世界杯冠军了,怎么比? (Xiaopang has already won 4 World Cup titles at the age of 23. How can he compare?)
2024-4-23 22:51回复
豌豆加菲: 回复 liaoyl008 :是世界杯冠军不是全世界杯好嘛?怎么不比别的?那这么说马龙12岁就东亚杯冠军了呢,怎么不比 (It’s the World Cup holder, not the whole World Cup, all right? Why not compare the others? Then Ma Long is the East Asian Cup champion at the age of 12, why not compare that)
2024-4-24 08:00回复

Yyyyyyyeah 小胖确实是国乒顶尖中的顶尖了,但说实话从休斯顿事件那一刻已经成了马龙背景板了无论之后成绩再多么强 (Xiaopang is indeed the top of the top in CNT, but to be honest, from the moment of the Houston incident, he has become Ma Long's backdrop, no matter how strong his subsequent results are)
IP属地:山东来自Android客户端56楼2024-04-24 10:33回复
 
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Didn't follow all the thread, so I'm not sure if you talk about the ethnicy of this forum, but it is reasonable that the asian audience is more involved asian players.

As would western audience be more invested into western players. I think it's a relativity thing and not about which audience voiced what.
Well, over time, you can follow and read and see that zeio quotes asian forums in a way that the western users must agree with because its how many users says so in these Asian forums.
This logic to me just seems silly and I will try and explain.

Give you an example.
zeio has been calling for players to retire, because they are just not good enough. but so is everyone else that isnt the champion…..
Now, zeio and his fake pals, gather together and they all calling for the same player to retire, and they all excited because they back each other up.
Mean while, the real world, people are not that childish, and do not call for that player to retire, in fact the true fans out number these sour fans, but not everyone has time to be on forums, so this is closing in on as bullying or harassment in a way by minority and over time, it has actually become ridiculous and silly.

Well asian forums has this problem, as western people dont really come online and wish for the diminishment of other people, maybe call this maturity if you want. But that is the case for table tennis.

So back to this forum, and as you can see zeio response to sofa, it is clear that he sees himself in greater authority on a western forum where he quotes asian forum members views and supposely that justifies that he has or will win the debate.

There are many TTD users that are also on asian forums, but only 1 user needs “backup” from there if we can call it that.

So this is why I ask, why he thinks that quoting them will supersede all these western forum members, whom to me, are very logical too.

Some things on asian forums are logical, the retirement of players is just too childish. A bunch of couch potato who probably are low levels trying to bully a pro player to retirement….. its like zeio and those minority trying to teach a Michelin star chef to cook.

Regarding the action of quoting threads of asian forum content on here. Maybe some people might find it entertaining. For me, ttd user input is more important than quoting 3rd parties. Imagine if 10 people do this and just quote other forums full time…..
 
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