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Just be patient, a friend of mine broke his knee during competition and he couldn't play TT for a whole year.
And when he started playing again, he just played for fun for about 6 months but now he's even better than he was cause during those 6 months, he focused on simple stuff that doesn't require much movement but he would never practice them hard like serve, serve receive, pushing and blocking.
Obviously, this is not your case but sometimes you need to give your body some time to heal. You'll be back soon to your previous level but take your time and don't push yourself too much. In the meantime, focus on stuff that don't require too much movement and energy from you.
And when he started playing again, he just played for fun for about 6 months but now he's even better than he was cause during those 6 months, he focused on simple stuff that doesn't require much movement but he would never practice them hard like serve, serve receive, pushing and blocking.
Obviously, this is not your case but sometimes you need to give your body some time to heal. You'll be back soon to your previous level but take your time and don't push yourself too much. In the meantime, focus on stuff that don't require too much movement and energy from you.
Two thoughts. One is to try coaching for a while. Use your knowledge to train others, and maybe your skills will slowly return. The other thought is to try respiratory therapy. I work with a Doc who believes much of long covid and covid recovery is respiratory based, and it helps a variety of other aspects, like brain fog and concentration. Might be worth a try.
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If you are 22 you will recover from that, just take your time. My recovery from covid takes about 3 months, in which I hitting the gym like a gorilla. After that came back to tt, and I discovered that in some aspects I became even better. But, again, covid affects differently on person to person, so it’s better talk to you doctor, and take it slowly
Right now when you aren't feeling well, just view practice as physical training. If losing annoys you, as it does most people, just do drills and have fun controlling the ball. Rather than focus on power, see if you can control the arc of the ball. Vary the spin, vary the height, vary the speed and play with the ball. This might help your feeling.
You could also just work on your serve and serve return. Almost everyone can loop all day from both sides. What separates people in skill is serve and serve return.
Feel better!
You could also just work on your serve and serve return. Almost everyone can loop all day from both sides. What separates people in skill is serve and serve return.
Feel better!
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A little bit to your better knowledge, -- LP had been an evil creature by a China national coach with the view to get all the imperialistic sharks mad. The core idea behind lp rubbers was foremost to produce a nasty disruptive material capable to destroy all the hostile nations abroad by the force of mean deceive and erratical ball bounce.
LP, known afterwards as long grass material, had appeared at international arena for the first time back in 1975, black rubber on China defender's both sides.
LP material did brough the sport into disrepute a lot, by turning an athletic game into a game of chance, a worser kind of Funfair lottery 🤧🥳😝
A little bit to your better knowledge, -- LP had been an evil creature by a China national coach with the view to get all the imperialistic sharks mad. The core idea behind lp rubbers was foremost to produce a nasty disruptive material capable to destroy all the hostile nations abroad by the force of mean deceive and erratical ball bounce.
LP, known afterwards as long grass material, had appeared at international arena for the first time back in 1975, black rubber on China defender's both sides.
LP material did brough the sport into disrepute a lot, by turning an athletic game into a game of chance, a worser kind of Funfair lottery 🤧🥳😝
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I've been there myself. A couple of summers ago i broke some ribs on holiday and it completely wrote me off. By the time i felt fit to play again I'd lost all my stamina and technique, it took me months and months to get back to where i was, and it hurt when i was losing to players I'd never lost to before.
Like others have said, get your physical fitness back first, get to the gym, and then when you feel fit enough to play table tennis, try and get some gentle one to one training first before jumping back in at the deep end.
Good luck bro, you'll get better trust me.
Like others have said, get your physical fitness back first, get to the gym, and then when you feel fit enough to play table tennis, try and get some gentle one to one training first before jumping back in at the deep end.
Good luck bro, you'll get better trust me.
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Lots of kind and helpful thoughts on this thread so far. I'll add my 2c worth:
I don't think you need to switch to pips, but I do think it may be worth using a more forgiving setup for a while.
Using a Viscaria with T05 both sides requires you to be in the correct position using the correct shot mechanics almost 100% of the time. In other words, it's a setup that requires constant concentration, and the physical capacity to respond appropriately all the time.
In your current condition, playing with a bat like that may just cause more frustration.
You may have more fun just getting the ball on the table more consistently for a while. Not only does that have the advantage of being more fun, it also means you'll spend more time in active play, which will improve your fitness (both physical and mental) more than constantly picking balls up from the floor will.
What I mean by a more forgiving set up is something like this:
- Blade: Any of Butterfly Korbel, Donic Persson Powerplay, Xiom Offensive S, Yasaka Sweden Extra, Neottec Voodoo Classic, or similar.
- Rubbers: Any of Rozena, Rakza 7, Aurus, H3 Neo (Commercial), Vega Japan/Euro.
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Let's be careful out there. Do seek (more/better) medical help. I'm saying this because I have a child that's been going downhill for 10+ years now. It probably started with a simple infection. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis/chronic_fatigue_syndrome)
Sometimes such a simple disease leads to multi-systemic failure. We seem to be in mass denial about it, but especially COVID has produced a substantial amount of sufferers from long-term consequences. Very low energy levels, instant fatigue, the inability to recuperate, post-exertional malaise, neurological damage (and pain) are quite common.
As these things go, we've been pushed by health professionals to apply GET (graded excercise therapy). In parallel tracks, other medical pros wrote the symtoms off as mental health problems. Only when my daughter turned 18 and got access to adult-oriented medical specialists the diagnosis of multisystemic neurological damage that stopped. In the meantime the damages sustained were beyond repair. My child won't be long for this world. If we had not been steered in harm's way, and had applied pacing instead of graded excercise therapy, things might not have turned out so dire.
So be careful in pushing yourself. What makes sense for basically healthy people recovering can be very harmful in other cases. Don't push too hard. And if you're in a bad situation, it's easy to push too hard.
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Chiming in mostly for mental support here.
I won't go into the depths of Post-Covid and Long Covid here, because simply put, I'm not a doctor and I know nothing about your actual medical situation.
I *am* experienced with getting knocked down and back up, and also with not being able to put out the quality you would expect or want to expect. Here's a few points you might want to think about:
- Get yourself a "for fun" setup. Grabbing a different bat might make it easier to switch mentally to playing with less game-stakes and more fun-and-exercise-stakes. Always wanted to fool around with Penhold? Pips? Old skool rubbers? Go for it.
- Play with your off-hand. Same result: it will make it easier to be less fanatic and play more casually.
- Picking up training/coaching might be fun, just don't fall for the caveat of projecting your personal frustrations on your coachee
- Last, if playing easy TT is still too hard, don't do it. It's OK to need a break and pick up something different for your lungs.
Ultimately, wishing the very best in your recovery. I hope we can help with the mental part here.
I won't go into the depths of Post-Covid and Long Covid here, because simply put, I'm not a doctor and I know nothing about your actual medical situation.
I *am* experienced with getting knocked down and back up, and also with not being able to put out the quality you would expect or want to expect. Here's a few points you might want to think about:
- Get yourself a "for fun" setup. Grabbing a different bat might make it easier to switch mentally to playing with less game-stakes and more fun-and-exercise-stakes. Always wanted to fool around with Penhold? Pips? Old skool rubbers? Go for it.
- Play with your off-hand. Same result: it will make it easier to be less fanatic and play more casually.
- Picking up training/coaching might be fun, just don't fall for the caveat of projecting your personal frustrations on your coachee
- Last, if playing easy TT is still too hard, don't do it. It's OK to need a break and pick up something different for your lungs.
Ultimately, wishing the very best in your recovery. I hope we can help with the mental part here.
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I have my previous racket, Intensity NCT, Goldarc 8 and Bluestorm Z3. That should do nicely for now.Lots of kind and helpful thoughts on this thread so far. I'll add my 2c worth:
I don't think you need to switch to pips, but I do think it may be worth using a more forgiving setup for a while.
Using a Viscaria with T05 both sides requires you to be in the correct position using the correct shot mechanics almost 100% of the time. In other words, it's a setup that requires constant concentration, and the physical capacity to respond appropriately all the time.
In your current condition, playing with a bat like that may just cause more frustration.
You may have more fun just getting the ball on the table more consistently for a while. Not only does that have the advantage of being more fun, it also means you'll spend more time in active play, which will improve your fitness (both physical and mental) more than constantly picking balls up from the floor will.
What I mean by a more forgiving set up is something like this:
Wishing you all the best health-wise
- Blade: Any of Butterfly Korbel, Donic Persson Powerplay, Xiom Offensive S, Yasaka Sweden Extra, Neottec Voodoo Classic, or similar.
- Rubbers: Any of Rozena, Rakza 7, Aurus, H3 Neo (Commercial), Vega Japan/Euro.
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Remember that the muscle memory is still there, you just need to activate it, which might take a while.
If you want some proof, there are many ex body builders who started training again after many years, took them say a month to regain lots of muscle that they had before they quit.
If you want some proof, there are many ex body builders who started training again after many years, took them say a month to regain lots of muscle that they had before they quit.
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How the infrared light (about 810nm) helps with neuro-degenerative issues, like Alzheimers, Parkinsons.
It's a bit off-topic, but perhaps it helps someone...
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There is lots of good advice here. I would add: take care of your diet. You need a healthy diet in your case. Reduce sugar consumption to a minimum; eliminate it completely if you can. Diets are a controversial topic and a big can of worms, so I don't want to go into details here, but drastically reducing sugar is a win-win step with any diet. Contrary to popular belief, sugar, or, to be more precise, fructose, depletes your energy.
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I can relate to this a lot. I have autoimmune issues and typically was out for 3 months each year for many of the years in the last decade. It was very hard to put in a lot of effort to kind of get back to where I started, every time I came back to train again it took a lot of time and effort to recover some of my level.
Over many years I felt like all the time I was investing was to barely even maintain a level, let alone to improve. It can feel very discouraging that's for sure.
I just learned to appreciate the chance to be on the table, to try and enjoy playing as much as I can and to remember that playing the game is overall good for my health and staying active.
The main difficulty with table tennis is that it's a very complex sport and it can be a little cruel. If you take a basic sport like pickleball you can take months away from the game and come back and play exactly the same level almost. With table tennis because of all the nuances and complexities it is a sport that you can lose feeling, timing etc for very quickly.
My best advice is to find ways to love the game and make that your priority rather than focusing on always searching for a performance return on investment. You'll also find you put less expectation and pressure on yourself.
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I didn't want to name or tag Matt, as I didn't know how much he wanted his challenges to be known.
but if anyone can talk about illness, and coming back, and illness and coming back, over and over and over again
it is Matt
I fully respect him for overcoming it and still have so much passion in the sport. Table tennis feels more important that his life, so when he is down, he needs to get well, to get back to table tennis
And I can resemblance to "coming back without the level".
Today, I trained with someone higher level than me. Just blocking his fh topspin for 30 mins, my wrist was getting tired. my turn to top spin, 10 mins in, my legs can't move any more.
as I got more tired and body weaker, my quality and consistency drops.
If it wasn't for today's training session (I am getting fit for Nathan visiting next week), I actually didn't realize how much of a terrible state my body is in....
My legs are still weak right now - this is 7 hours after moving like a youngster for only 1 hour and 45 mins.
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Not nice to hear. Try to get outside as much as possible. Take walks under the Greek sun and drink lots of water. Try to maintain your contacts with your teammates in your club at least 2, 3 times a week, with or without training sessions, e.g. just giving or receiving services.
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maybe do just light TT training,maybe a few Serves.
Try to progress slowly but do the shots and light Training you like most,then when you got the "fun" back in TT you automatically gain confidence and start to intensify.
Don´t overdo it just cause you think you "lost it" i played 7 Years in my youth in somewhat "provincial selection and trainings" in Bavaria,i quit when i was 16 (Girlfriend was prio) then started when covid hit after almost 25 years break,i overdid it somewhat with Race Tourney cause i wanted to come back fast and gain somewhat of the skills back.
I Overdid it and had a new Herniated disc,cause i stressed my Body to much.
Remember you had an Illness! then Depresssion,so you got a second Illness.
I feel your frustration,but better to come back slowly then overdo it and you can´t play anymore.
ANd Depression is a Big Hurdle for Motivation,therefore play only practises you really like.
WHat we did way back was play some kind of Tennis with Banderoles as Net and crosshall as court,it was fun as hell.
Gl in your recovery.
Try to progress slowly but do the shots and light Training you like most,then when you got the "fun" back in TT you automatically gain confidence and start to intensify.
Don´t overdo it just cause you think you "lost it" i played 7 Years in my youth in somewhat "provincial selection and trainings" in Bavaria,i quit when i was 16 (Girlfriend was prio
) then started when covid hit after almost 25 years break,i overdid it somewhat with Race Tourney cause i wanted to come back fast and gain somewhat of the skills back.I Overdid it and had a new Herniated disc,cause i stressed my Body to much.
Remember you had an Illness! then Depresssion,so you got a second Illness.
I feel your frustration,but better to come back slowly then overdo it and you can´t play anymore.
ANd Depression is a Big Hurdle for Motivation,therefore play only practises you really like.
WHat we did way back was play some kind of Tennis with Banderoles as Net and crosshall as court,it was fun as hell.
Gl in your recovery.
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