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I usually don't agree with Zeio but yea, Hina is not good enough against China.
Well, you have to point out who is then. It is not like any player out there is that much better. China is China. That is reality.
 
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@zeio maybe knows what Ma Lin and CXT said to WMY during TO?
I was out for dinner watching with the sound off, so here goes...

MLin told her to serve to the middle on serve-n-attack/3rd ball, how it's fine however she saw fit when receiving. Couldn't make out what CXT said due to the noise.

LIVE! | WT Finals | KO | ITTF World Team Table Tennis Championships Finals London 2026
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Not much pressure for WMY to play against Hayata. All the pressure was on SYS when she played against Miwa at match 4.
Two reasons:
1. WMY just lost to someone who never beat her, hard to recover psychologically
2. WMY was playing the last match bearing the burden of the last person who lost the whole team competition and the fame of someone who lost two in a row and singlehandedly the culprit of the team's loss.

SYS, OTOH, carried the tail wind of just winning her first match. Plus, to be honest, SYS is just a much better player than WMY with all the tools and confidence needed to handle any challengers. Of course, SYS also under great pressure because she simply couldn't afford to lose. But, by the formidable form she was in, there is just nobody could remotely challenge her at the moment.
 
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For all the people beating up on Hayata - lets look at the alternatives and some of the nuances being overlooked:

1. It is not Hayata's fault that Rin Mende won the Japanese trials for an automatic spot. Usually, someone like Kihara or Nagasaki or Odo should have won such a spot. But Odo didnt play and Nagasaki lost to Rin.

2. Miu Hirano, who is technically sounder in some ways, didnt do well at Japanese Champs nor did she play the trials - stayed out in SC Chennai and got back late after losing to Odo.

3. Odo skipped the trials and assumed that ahe would be picked. But what she did not count on was Rin Mende winning the trials. And then losing the coaches pick to Nagasaki.

4. No one on the JNT, including Miwa, has a good record against the CNT. Miwa's victory today was a gift.

I write this so that all the issues are in one place. Sure, put it on Hayata, but you still have to explain who else is doing better against the Chinese. Korea? Germany? Hong Kong? Taiwan? Romania? Poland?

You can say now that Odo should have been picked and Hayata should have been benched. But know how all this happened so that you don't think it is a matter of incompetence. In fact, the biggest opponent of Hayata eas juat arguing last week that Nagasaki was more valuable than Odo. These things are legitimately complicated.
 
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I usually don't agree with Zeio but yea, Hina is not good enough against China.
Hayata's form has been rather poor throughout so no surprise there. Trailing 0-2 against Winter made it abundantly clear. Hashimoto has also not played at her best. If JPN were not the ABC team, it could've ended in 0-3.

Given that, Nakazawa's plan was to have Hashimoto catch KM and have Harimoto get 2 points against WMY and SYS, but in anticipation of that, KM locked Hashimoto in the 3rd singles and SYS showed them the Great Wall of China.

Maybe they could've fielded Mende instead of Hayata (rather than Nagasaki having just recovered from her injury)...

2025/1/26
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...rors-empresss-cup-1-21-1-26.36396/post-505109
Though I'm afraid it is too late now. I've always said Smart Hayata is the way to go after WTTC 2022 but now she is only doing it out of fear of getting injured again (and ending her career for real). Her top gear is no longer there when she needs it and she will definitely need it against the CNT.
2025/2/23
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...n-cup-2025-shenzhen-2-19-23.36119/post-510055
For me, KM is taking over the role of SYS in the Paris 2024 cycle, whereas WMY is taking over the role of CM. It's becoming clear after Paris 2024 and ATTC 2024 that SYS is starting to struggle to keep up in multiple events.
2025/2/26
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...n-cup-2025-shenzhen-2-19-23.36119/post-510675
No, I mean 3 events. The critical factor will be Harimoto. It's difficult for SYS and WMY to hang around until Brisbane 2032, when KM will be 28 and Harimoto 24. KM will need the Olympic singles experience if no one else comes through and it's very clear the CNT is honing KM to handle 3 events. Couple that with my prediction that ZYL's style could make a comeback.
2026/2/9
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...or-wttc-finals-2026-2-16-17.35128/post-563682
JTTA/Nakazawa have gotta come up with something for their players versus KM, who is developing into a player even more difficult than SYS and WMY to deal with in certain aspects.
 
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I was wrong, I guess LJK's body will allow him to play two matches.
This is surprising yet at the same time it's not.

Banking on LSD to beat Togami who has never beaten him before is an incredible idea by WH. Togami is inevitably will implode at one point in a game against China At the same time he's good against LJK, nearly deafeating the man before his implosion. Best case scenario is to pit him against LSD.

LSD's records against Harimoto is just not there. He's like CNT Man Hina Hayata at this point - a free point for JNT.

At the same time, Harimoto is bad against LJK. He was up 2-0 or was it 3-0 and blew it! So I suppose WH would like to take advantage of that.

WCQ is the breadwinner in CNT. Sure he lost last time against an inspired Sora but I doubt the second time would happen here. Even then, it's doubtful he can take on LJK.

My take:

Harimoto vs LJK - LJK but I'd like Hari to win.
Sora vs WCQ - WCQ obviously.
Togami vs LSD - LSD.
Sora vs LJK - Sora
Harimoto vs WCQ - WCQ.

Likely it's gonna be 3-0, a complete wipe out by the Chinese.
 
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Two reasons:
1. WMY just lost to someone who never beat her, hard to recover psychologically
2. WMY was playing the last match bearing the burden of the last person who lost the whole team competition and the fame of someone who lost two in a row and singlehandedly the culprit of the team's loss.

SYS, OTOH, carried the tail wind of just winning her first match. Plus, to be honest, SYS is just a much better player than WMY with all the tools and confidence needed to handle any challengers. Of course, SYS also under great pressure because she simply couldn't afford to lose. But, by the formidable form she was in, there is just nobody could remotely challenge her at the moment.

This is surprising yet at the same time it's not.

Banking on LSD to beat Togami who has never beaten him before is an incredible idea by WH. Togami is inevitably will implode at one point in a game against China At the same time he's good against LJK, nearly deafeating the man before his implosion. Best case scenario is to pit him against LSD.

LSD's records against Harimoto is just not there. He's like CNT Man Hina Hayata at this point - a free point for JNT.

At the same time, Harimoto is bad against LJK. He was up 2-0 or was it 3-0 and blew it! So I suppose WH would like to take advantage of that.

WCQ is the breadwinner in CNT. Sure he lost last time against an inspired Sora but I doubt the second time would happen here. Even then, it's doubtful he can take on LJK.

My take:

Harimoto vs LJK - LJK but I'd like Hari to win.
Sora vs WCQ - WCQ obviously.
Togami vs LSD - LSD.
Sora vs LJK - Sora
Harimoto vs WCQ - WCQ.

Likely it's gonna be 3-0, a complete wipe out by the Chinese.
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This is surprising yet at the same time it's not.

Banking on LSD to beat Togami who has never beaten him before is an incredible idea by WH. Togami is inevitably will implode at one point in a game against China At the same time he's good against LJK, nearly deafeating the man before his implosion. Best case scenario is to pit him against LSD.

LSD's records against Harimoto is just not there. He's like CNT Man Hina Hayata at this point - a free point for JNT.

At the same time, Harimoto is bad against LJK. He was up 2-0 or was it 3-0 and blew it! So I suppose WH would like to take advantage of that.

WCQ is the breadwinner in CNT. Sure he lost last time against an inspired Sora but I doubt the second time would happen here. Even then, it's doubtful he can take on LJK.

My take:

Harimoto vs LJK - LJK but I'd like Hari to win.
Sora vs WCQ - WCQ obviously.
Togami vs LSD - LSD.
Sora vs LJK - Sora
Harimoto vs WCQ - WCQ.

Likely it's gonna be 3-0, a complete wipe out by the Chinese.
Have you really checked the facts before posting?
 
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Well, you have to point out who is then. It is not like any player out there is that much better. China is China. That is reality.
Anyone but Hayata.

Miwa has a horrible record against WMY but she powered through to take the point when it matters.

Given that if Miwa with her horrible record could actually push it against WMY, there shouldn't be any reason why Hina couldn't. Losing out to Sun Yongsha is fine but WMY had her armor nicked by Miwa. It was Hina's time to go for glory.

Have you really checked the facts before posting?
I checked nothing. I pulled it out of memory on their recent matches. Feel free to point out my mistake there.
 
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LJK make a great comeback yday but its more Alexis losing than LJK winning IMO.
LJK proved his resilience and mental abilities but his overall level seems lacking

its a big mistake to expose LJK to potentially 2 singles losses. as we know that WCQ is vulnerable to Sora.

I think Harimoto will win easily to LJK and if Sora is on fire, we will have Japan ahead 2-0 and China under extreme pressure, and Japan will take the title

Looks like China is shooting itself in the foot.
 
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LJK make a great comeback yday but its more Alexis losing than LJK winning IMO.
LJK proved his resilience and mental abilities but his overall level seems lacking

its a big mistake to expose LJK to potentially 2 singles losses. as we know that WCQ is vulnerable to Sora.

I think Harimoto will win easily to LJK and if Sora is on fire, we will have Japan ahead 2-0 and China under extreme pressure, and Japan will take the title

Looks like China is shooting itself in the foot.
It was shocking tactical failure by Alexis more than a mental break but the narrative won't be this probably.
 
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LJK tends to be a slow starter but I like that Harimoto doesn't always gets into the fast and furious rallies lest LJK gets all warmed up, I think.
 
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