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Quite probably all the classic rubbers. Should a Coppa or Mark V still be 40 Euro list price after being on the market for so long? They have their audience and that´s fair enough, but development and marketing should no longer be part of the price.

Yes, but I can´t see how more people will watch "normal" table tennis if you slow it down and take spin out, because those forms already exist.

Might be, but the same would go for yours ;)

But we agree here, I do want this sport to evolve, and not new rules introduced to correct how it has evolved. It´s faster and more athletic, that´s progress for me, and it comes with a more serious approach on higher levels and better material. On low levels, it doesn´t really look different at...

Hardbat and click ball. Slower and pretty much devoid of spin. Closer to what so many people play in gardens, garages and offices. And: Nobody´s watching.

But does the quantity of those justify doctoring with the sport? Casual watchers understand garden level table tennis. As soon as spin is playing a role they´re lost - like some of the lower league players, too ;) Even many table tennis players aren´t really interested in seeing other people...

This I doubt very much. She´s been generating "that" forehand power with lesser rubbers over the years, out of the box. But she might of course get selected versions.

There was some work done on 48 and 45 for sure to make them playable for lower levels and also more affordable.

Andro actually started this earlier with Rasanter (without EC), everybody else followed.

He does. https://www.donic.com/DONIC-COTON-RELEVANT/100270010 Try finding out what makes it 5 Euro more expensive than the Relevant without his name ;)

I think it´s a matter of positioning and target group. Rasanter still is the top "non-hybrid" product line and R45 is the soft version that makes the power of this series (especially the Energy Cell sponge versions) more controllable, while this new one is aimed at "ambitious allround players"...

Indeed. I also find it hard to imagine how a 95 gram blade plus rubbers should ever be sufficiently accelerated with the training effort usually associated with that rating level, but people are different and some have no issues with such heavy blades.

Maybe some of them let you play with it, so you can get your own impression. Generally, if you want to play fast, use fast material. But also generally - without having played with this particular blade but way enough similar constrcutions - even though it´s a carbon inside constrcution, for a...

The descriptions are confusing. The sponge is a combination of both technologies according to some German information. They way they put it, it would seem that there are different options. As for the "High-grip to slightly sticky", this refers to what they´ve tested over the years, still...

... would make them a new rubber altogether, rather than a further development. ;) This corresponds with what an insider had to say about them in 2021, when he was kind enough to also post pictures of the MX-P version a German forum "But the Infinity rubbers are definitely not a successor or...

This is especially true for lower levels. People admit to their weaknesses and use pips/anti, and all of a sudden they have an advantage over people who have their weakness playing against pips/anti. The higher the level, the more you actually have to have an idea of how to play with the...

https://ttc-bietigheim-bissingen.de/tsu They have a third league team of their own and good contacts. Could be a place to start. https://www.topspin-sport.de/home/performance-tt-academy/ Head coach Tom Wetzel, former first league player and coach of Bavarian association, very experienced

I think K.K. is right. There is a distinctive "Japanese" feeling, and then there is the Butterfly feeling. It´s all hard to pin down, but numerous t05 players stick to their rubber because it gives them that particular feeling. Also, after such a long time, they know exactly how much of what to...

For me, Helix is currently the top non-Hybrid ESN rubber. There wasn´t much of a development in that field during the last few years, as everybody was going hybrid for all player levels. It seems Stiga benefits from a player who wants to stick to "normal" so they have to push the level there ;)

Blades might be less of a task than finding rubbers that a) rival the performance of tenergy rubbers b) provide an equal feeling to that of tenergy rubbers For European rubbers, a) is not a big problem, while b) still is Chinese rubbers should be even further away when it comes to the feeling.