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Just play in a different place or switch sports. Badminton or soccer should be quite fun!

I can see the appeal lol

BYD is even better and more economical than Tesla, especially with really sweet novated lease pricing here....

Yep, finger and wrist movement is extremely crucial in terms of spin creation (as well as disguise).

The other advantage is with ball toss. Basically there is a weight shift from left to right foot during the ball toss, and then right foot back to left foot during the service. The weight shift to power ball toss makes it way more energy efficient and consistent so you can get better contact.

Both are using wrist, but ZJK's stroke structure is much better than his student's, you can see how stable it is and the acceleration from the dip of the ball. This is because he uses his left hip and rotates the upper body - the student is using the old outdated method of doing down to up with...

Yep, and also if you use weight shift in your service movement, the serve can be a lot spinnier with an even smaller movement.

Basically fast recovery is only possible if you shift weight from right to left foot during the service ball contact and then ride that rotational momentum to directly go to the ready position with the right foot. Otherwise it is just too slow. From observation all the top pros pretty much do it...

There is a super easy way to force the BH-BH rally if the penholder directs the loop to FH side of the shakehander, ie either a FH block or loop down the line to the BH and there is no solution. If you step around it leaves the wide FH open. TPB punch is a liability against heavy topspin...

My practice partner is a high level LP/inverted penhold so I know the style quite a bit. I personally tried shakehand anti BH and FH inverted some time but imo that is still not as powerful as the penhold LP/inverted style. There are just too many possibilities with LP/inverted penhold and imo...

Penholder's main problem is the topspin to topspin game which they just cant really compete with shakehand. I will admit that penhold is superior when the spin is complicated especially with underspin type balls. But now with chiquita, there is simply no stopping a shakehander from forcing the...

The meta now in amateur table tennis in order of importance... 1. Good serves - this is the no.1 point winner. Plus points if you can serve very heavy short sidetopspin, low short no spin, fast long sideunderspin and aim them as you please to the nastiest locations. 2.Good spinny deep pushes...

Yep of course twiddling is not difficult but at least can be trained at home without a table easily. But double inverted penhold especially inverted RPB, I really rarely see players managing to master it at levels equal to shakehand BH at an amateur level. The reason why LP/inverted works so...

Calling such a style "LP penholder" is simply wrong. The correct way to refer to it is a LP/inverted penholder. Tbh long pips penhold is an addition to the existing inverted penhold play. For this style to work you need a strong inverted penhold game as a base. This is why it is not a bad idea...

Tbh i'm not too happy to see his playstyle at the moment, because he relies too much on the LP attack rather than developing a super strong penhold inverted game (for eg FH loopkill). Even the serves are like a bit half baked....

The 'meta' at the amateur level is simply not the same as at the pro level. What top 10 players use has 0 bearing of which styles are most effective at the amateur level. Coming back to penhold - have you seen a 2nd Felix Lebrun or Wang Hao? Basically it takes an extraordinary amount of...

I think you didnt understand my point at all. I am describing a twiddling LP/inverted player. Such a player has full access to all the inverted range of shots. It is not just as simple as "Penh9ld LP"

I'm not sure if it is limiting if it allows an amateur to defeat a national team member here. In reality, without a correct and intense training environment, 2x inverted will fare far worse in terms of absolute ceiling. And i never heard of a 2x inverted amateur defeating even a semi pro.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/pro-lp-inverted-penholder.38323/

the trick is that having one side inverted and one side OX LP you can use both instead of just 1. The variation can be killer. There are many penholders out there at amateur level who use this very effectively and Ive played with many of them. There was one who even beat national team member...