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  1. This why I don't complain illegal serves

    I don't know him at all. Quoting his video was just for convenience and content as YouTube dumped lots of his video to me.
  2. Xu Xin is back, so is his behind back shot

    I assure you, it's just you.
  3. Xu Xin is back, so is his behind back shot

    In the 2024 China National Championship, one of the most entertaining player, Xu Xin is back in action representing team Shanghai. The cloud walker didn't disappoint, in the team semifinal against FuJian, he showed his magic touch again with a clean and fantastic behind back shot that delighted...
  4. Xu Xin is back, so is his behind back shot

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  5. This why I don't complain illegal serves

    The above video posted by the popular table tennis net personality EmRatThich captures a match in the latest Europe Championship between two female players. The refs for the match probably was a hero in the eyes of our some forum members. The first serve the Romania player did was immediately...
  6. This why I don't complain illegal serves

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  7. Moral Question Here…

    5 years old and your grandpa actually advised you serve short so the poor kid couldn't reach? :) Well, I don't pass the moral judgement on you or your grandpa. However, I won't do that. I would just serve regularly or even easier so the kid could get the ball back. I like winning table tennis...
  8. This why I don't complain illegal serves

    The AI approach should be able to solve the issue. Reducing the human fact and let the machine be the judge. If such an AI system (technically feasible just extra expense) exists today, it might fault many pros, how they gonna react? I think if the majority of pros are faulted, they will cry...
  9. This why I don't complain illegal serves

    That basket exists in many other sports as well, football, basketball, baseball, etc... The basket in table tennis is relatively very small compared to others.
  10. 27th ITTF-Asian Table Tennis Championships 2024, Astana, 10/7-13

    LSD had great BH to BH fast exchanges resulting he came up on top vs. Ma Long in China Smash. In ATTC the shots was just not there or downgraded. I think seamless ball may have something to do it and he just was slower to adapt. A more reasonable explanation is he simply just too tired, not just...
  11. 27th ITTF-Asian Table Tennis Championships 2024, Astana, 10/7-13

    LOL! For most countries, winning silver in table tennis feel like a winner; for Chinese silver means a loser in shame. Winning, especially winning a lot can really spoil your psychology
  12. This why I don't complain illegal serves

    Assuming ITTF can acquire enough fund to improve service rule mess. Here is a possible tech solution using AI, specifically CNN nets to solve the problem. Installing a camera(low to medium res suffice) behind each player so the serve's motion will be captured to emulate receiver's view. A fast...
  13. This why I don't complain illegal serves

    Well, if majority of pros are serving illegally, it's not the players fault, rather, the system (rule) itself is at the fault, which is exactly my point.
  14. This why I don't complain illegal serves

    One simple but extreme rule change can remedy the illegal serve once for all. How about restricting serve with spin? In that case, you take away the main incentive of hidden serve: disguise the spin on the ball. Now, only speed, depth and placement will be part of serve game. Just for the fun...
  15. This why I don't complain illegal serves

    Most times, like a warm up drill. Of course, sometime, I do serve and serve return drill.
  16. This why I don't complain illegal serves

    How about... is I propose, not meant anyone else.
  17. This why I don't complain illegal serves

    The difference between you and I is although we both recognize illegal serve is a big issue, you put main blame on players and call them cheaters and I blame the rule itself for its difficulty or impossible to enforce UNDER THE CURRENT REF SETTINGS. Fan complain, pros complain, doesn't make...
  18. This why I don't complain illegal serves

    How about only allowing no spin serve like practice play? How about having a robot shoot the ball? :) Seriously, for many hard nosed fans, spin is one of the most attractive parts of the game. Taking that part away, table tennis is just not fun anymore.
  19. This why I don't complain illegal serves

    You need to be a good reader. Did I mention financial cost is one of the main factors preventing the rule change? Game flow is another, you don't want a game frequently interrupted by refs' discussing, video reviewing... which certainly would drive audience away.
  20. This why I don't complain illegal serves

    The above is a pic I borrowed from a forum member and it perfectly illustrates why current service rule, especially about hidden serve rule is unenforceable. If you stand on the back of the receiving player in the pic, it's quite obvious the server's shoulder was blocking the contact point when...
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