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I have never heard anything reported about Rafael Nadal but I have always felt something was off about him. He is still one of my favorite tennis players. Very disciplined and very intelligent.

There are other examples, because I do remember an umpire ruling against him in a match before it stopped. But in any case, if you want to properly evaluate a claim like this, you should consider watching the match rather than relying on highlights, whatever you think of the claim...

It is so they can confuse you with Confucianism while you near the burden of being transparent and nuanced.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?13276-Is-over-celebrating-a-problem-in-table-tennis&p=150260&viewfull=1#post150260

zeio, Nuance is not for everyone. Have fun being a master debater. Cheers.

Okay, zeio. It's getting nowhere in part because you make it a matter of being right. In your haste to make it clear that I have changed my mind, you forgot this post: So you see my position hasn't changed that much if at all. I think the ITTF, like many sports governing bodies, should have...

Yes, I remembered that some of the ladies used to do it (the girls doubles teams in Japan, including the choppers did it a lot for a while), and after a while a lot of them stopped doing it. Also a lot of juniors don't do it so it isn't a universal thing in that culture. But at one point in...

I have defended your right to post whatever you want on many occassions. And no, I 100% do not believe any of your posts about anybody on the female JNT are motivated by sexism. In case it isn't clear, I called you sexist to help you see how it feels when people cast aspersions on your...

Do you remember when Harimoto used to grunt during his opponent's serve preparation? Was that a natural progression as well?

Ah okay. So you consider (y)our paltry life experience short for discussing Harimoto. I guess I missed that when you stated that (y)our paltry life experience applies when you criticize Harimoto, but doesn't apply when you criticize other players. Thanks for making it clear. One of the...

Nah, this isn't about lineage. This was Harimoto at one time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqLrdv67sdE Many of the supporters of Harimoto don't want to look at how his behavior evolved and how it has changed.

Okay? So you mean that other players don't have bad technique too? In any case, my point is not that you can't criticize Ishikawa. My point is that acting as if someone criticizing a celebrity needs a special permission is just weird. And that if you can't see the double standard, it is...

Gimme a break - Ma Long is easily one of the most flexible players in the world. :D

So Jang Woojin and Lin Gaoyuan are exching chos right now - do you think this is what Harimoto sounds like when he chos?

Sure. When you are a star or celebrity or politician, this comes with the territory. You have been doing it with Ishikawa for years. Very few people here accuse you of malice or ill will for Ishikawa's achievements when doing it, but when a few people here criticize Harimoto for something...

Did he tell him to rock his back and scream at the top of his lungs too? And maybe grunt before the opponent served?

Zeio is offended that people can criticize celebrities. By this standard, his criticism of Ishikawa is just sexist drivel.

Suh isn't popping the ball up on her forehand chop and SYS has to actually use more power - she can't win with 50% loops.

Suh has always had a pretty strong offensive game but her play in this event is her most impressive in years.

Nah, the best player in Europe is Polcanova.