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I don't understand what you're trying to prove. No one is arguing with you here, and you're the only person criticizing anyone's behavior, like you're somehow entitled to it. Do you really think Ma Long would get as upset about my post as you did? He would probably say "Keep it up!". I also...

1: This was a post about Ma Long's loop, not mine. The coaches in the CNT can't loop like Ma Long or -insert great looper here- so I guess they're full of shit, too. :rolleyes: 2: We're hobbyists trying to learn one particular looping method. We're not trying to develop our own method here...

I am by no means a "Ma Long copy" nor can I "loop like him" but I don't believe in the magic of the stroke, and anyone can learn it as long as they can perform the mechanics with their body. The easiest way to start is to first have Ma Long's body proportions to 98% or closer. The best coaches...

The way I would define a perfect stroke is when the stroke is correctly utilizing everything that can be done to produce the desired result. There have been "perfect strokes" done, with this definition. I don't believe in a 100% mechanically perfect stroke, nor in one ideal stroke for any one...

Although the stroke's not perfect nor is it exactly average by any means (Average is bad, by the way) we need to remember that stroke technique really doesn't matter terribly if the rest of your game's not on point. There are far lower rated players by the hundreds of thousands in the world...