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It's a slippery slope. If that is allowed then am I allowed to completely hide the ball with my entire body and then rotate my bodt all out just before contact so that the opponent only sees the 100ms of contact? Isn't that not that different from the classic hidden serve?

No, you can lean into the ball and time it so that your head goes beyond the ball after the ball has passed your head, thereby not blocking the view from your opponent. Truls Moregardh does this all the time and his serves are mostly clean.

The problem is deciphering the spin. It is just becoming a guessing game in terms of deciphering the spin (sidetop, sideunder?) with so much information hidden from the receiver...

Hawkeye with a challenge system is most probably the right way to go. The tech is already there.

Yes, it is a simple af rule. The ball must be visible at all times (not just contact!!) from the perspective of both net posts. It's just never enforced properly.

Yes - half long serves will be even more powerful than it is now, but it would just mean that the advantage will go firmly to chiquita + BH dominant players (who dont have the problem of the table in the way). It is also a disadvantage for shorter players because there is less reach to go for...

This is starting to look like a clown fiesta with the scoring system

Clear edge. Not sure why but the umpires were blind.

Wtf is this system?!

With this kind of format, might as well decide the winner with a coin toss - these super short formats are basically full of RNG...

Spin recognition and dealing with spin + length variation is the kryptonite for many juniors. My guess is that they train against standard balls all day long, but once you put some strangeness in the balls, then they start to struggle. The best juniors know exactly what spin the opponent is...

I found the WCQ - An Jaehyun match funny af. So 1st 2 sets WCQ won easily due to An completely misreading his hidden serves. Then An decides that enough is enough, and responds with his own brand of hidden hook serves with blatant throwing of the ball into the body and contacting near right ribs...

If you can do it consistently low, short and very spinny aka Timo Boll esque of course those are always a threat. But those are incredibly difficult to execute tbh and imo requires very good eyesight and timing. And your opponent can adjust by simply moving closer to the table and then just...

This is the hard part about chiquita. I think of it as a sliding scale where I use increasingly more components the longer it is. Super short serves i pretty much focus on thumb+index finger action to supinate around the ball (anything more and my unforced errors go up like crazy). Medium short...

i usually use the BH, contact a bit to the left (not too much) and open racket accordingly depending on underspin component. But the main problem is that positionally, it will curve towards your FH if it lands more to the middle so it is super easy to get jammed if you try using BH. It is way...

Yep, too easily blocked. Also despite popular opinion, loopkills have the highest amount of spin, not slow spinny loops. This is why they're really difficult to block - there's huge spin + speed on them.

Saw his name put out by Tony, I think this is a very promising style. Guy has a very fast harimoto esque close table inverted BH plus all the nasty LP shots (green side). He looks to have decent technique on the inverted wing too!

if they were concerned about audiences they would have fixed the stupid WTT viewing angle... i dont think it's high on their list

It's not rocket science. What he really means is if you brush loop without sufficient normal force (ie thin brush) it is really easy to miss the ball and miscontact the ball. But if you do a thick brush (ie brushing contact but with a lot more normal force), it actually improves consistency, and...