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Gucchy is probably the weakest among his team, he has quite a few technique issues... the funny thing is that there were others in the team who coached him and he never fixed them anyway. Hamakawa's reverse pendulum looks nasty af. Even if you know exactly what spin is on it, you don't know how...

Kojima actually attacked quite a few times against backspin with the classic LP attack. I think Kojima's opponent played a bit too impatiently and with not enough spin variation in his loops. LP penhold is indeed nasty stuff. Kojima didn't even need to twiddle to his inverted side to win?!

This is why you should just go to pips/anti, your problems will be solved... Tbh this guy's serve is just OK. There's a lot more nastier serves than that...

Gozo, if you count the points you lost, the vast majority of them is not due to the pips but due to his serve and you misreading his serve. He has a more advanced serve than yours - he uses the body decently + he can do both hook serves + pendulum. And he has the classic elbow lift pendulum...

Had some interesting matches today. I went toe to toe with my practice partner until he was like getting 2-3 nets/edges per game and I didn't...and lost most of the deciders yet again lol. I met a new penholder guy who had an amazing serve game just like mine. Guy could serve 3 types of serve...

Agreed with this

Gozo you gotta fight fire with fire, put some anti or pips on your BH and show them how it's done!

I did a much more detailed slowmo analysis. Although it's a bit of potato quality cam, I think I understand how he is brushing the ball now. Zeio and dingyibvs is correct - it is a sidespin loop but without a lot of topspin component He basically did brush around the side of the ball but very...

I know how to vary the spin and amount of spin myself, but the problem is that it is obvious to the opponent. The way Waldner did it is a lot more subtle and effective imo.

There's differences in the feet for sure, but the type of spin on the ball is determined by how the ball was brushed. If you look at for eg when ZJK or Ma Long hooks the ball the stroke and followthrough looks completely different to what Waldner did here. So the weird thing here is that based...

Is there anyone on the forum who can explain this sorcery?

I think you're not that high level yourself either given the amount of training you've got. Sorry that you're untalented and couldnt make it. You probably never even seen a LP attack or loop before given how you talk.

Ok so according to you every pip player winning against double inverted players is an anomaly since theyre all limited by their "ceilings". Way to disrespect pip players lol. I rest my case.

Lol, so if pips are so shit as per what you say, how did Sun Yingsha world no.1 and reigning World Champion who has the best training environment lose recently to a player who for sure has way worse training environment than her? And how did Ni Xia Lian win a feeder tournament at an age of 60...

Just to be clear, the 3 points I made are: 1) there's no ceiling to pips 2) the reason behind the lack of top 5 pips players is due to simple lack of numbers + suboptimal techniques/physicality/strategies by current pips players 3) even if there is an imagined ceiling, they are so high that it...

But how does he make it disguise so much like a topspin loop from the looks of it? The stroke looks almost identical!

The ratio of sidespin to topspin seems to not fit the stroke pattern and trajectory tbh... what I was expecting to happen was something like 5:12 with this kind of contact. 1:46 looks like the same stroke as 5:12 but is with much lower amount of topspin generated. This is the mystery imo

Boll did a short ish push flick which may have some mild underspin on it. But Waldner was still contacting the back of the ball with a seemingly normal topspin stroke, and yet the ball completely died on Boll's racket when he tried to block it.

I feel like it's not as simple as it being a sidespin loop. Waldner was still largely brushing the back of the ball (I know that can still produce quite a bit of sidespin but that should be accompanied by quite some topspin too, but the way the ball reacted appeared that it didn't have much spin...

No, the 2nd point was brought up as a supporting point to defend the 1st main hypothesis ie there is no ceiling with pips. You don't get to define the term shifting the goalposts - it simply means shifting the criteria which I haven't. "Moving the goalposts is an informal fallacy in which...