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Boll's uses his legs *a lot*. People just focus on the lack of leverage.

You mean the Timo Boll who beat Joo just about every other time they played but that match? I believe Joo has that match up there amongst his biggest wins with his win over Ma Lin in 2003 WTTC higher of course It's okay, we can just agree to disagree. I think Zhang Jike's looping style did...

And you think this kind of arm usage is as effective with the newer balls?

It is crazy to remember how hard ML was to beat back then. That said, one tournament is not a longevity argument. And that ball was crappy in its own way, but it definitely didn't play quite like the ABS balls, but it did take more energy to get moving and encouraged more physical technique.

Wait, a match from the 2011 World cup with the old ball proves what?

Okay, if you want to win on language, feel free to do so. But if you think that ZJK's technique would have made him equally injury free with the current balls, okay, I disagree. Nothing annoys me more than someone taking a very narrow view of what someone else is saying when the substantive...

There are nuances to this. First of all, that was the "poly ball", which is not quite the ABS ball. Secondly, this was the beginning/continuation of many years over which ZJK would have injuries, whether it was the ball, or just congenital issues with his body, I leave to anyone to guess. But...

Do you seriously think the 40+ ball we use today is the same generally as the 40mm ball that was used before 2014 and after 2000? Whether it is the size or the ABS material, this new ball just doesn't play the same.

I wasn't speaking about ML per se, but again, if you watch ML vs Wang Hao or ML vs Zhang Jike encounters with the old ball, ML wasn't that spectacular even with his good backhand. First strike with heavy spin with the older balls were more devastating and defence was not as easy. I am just...

I think the plastic ball actually made it easier to dominate with that style though there are tradeoffs. By reducing the spin dimension, it made lots of backhands that were inadequate in fast attack mode with the older balls far more serviceable because the blocking and countering dimension...

IMHO, ZJK required the smaller ball, his game style wouldn't have survived the larger ball without injury because his forehand didn't have the stable base with the lower body that makes Ma Long and Fan so impressive. His wrist usage is much more active, definitely more spin oriented than Ma Long.

Someone needs to combine threads.

So when I tell people to suck it up in the US, it is because very often in the US, when this stuff haopens in a tournament: 1. There is no guarantee that the umpire will save you because he might be busy with another match or just might not even agree with your assessment as consistently as you...

Had an interesting weekend. I played a local event, U2150 and Open. In the U2150, I was the B player in my group. Thr A player came late so I played the D player first, a guy with pips whose game I was familiar with from friendly matches. Then the C player played the D player and won as...

It's to hide both, both are important. The whole picture contains information, knowing how the racket is travelling into the ball is perfect information, but hiding the ball by definition makes the contact hard to discern. You want go take a mental picture of how the ball was contacted

The angle of the throw is partly what creates the hidden serve (throwing it backwards to a point of invisibility). And there are other things about throwing the ball into the racket but that's not the point. The problem with non vertical tosses is that the forward momentum of the ball from the...

I have seem way more than that, but again, it goes to skill level.

The other point is the skill level of the hidden serves and the follow up of the opponent. Some players don't take major advantage of the hiding and their serves are what they are. But some players actually do make serves that are incredibly difficult to read from the bounce trajectory (good...

Xiao Zhan virtually injured her with his overworking training regiment. She is doing well with Ma Lin and should stay with him

He flipped his paddle to play Liang as well. It is good to bet with house money.