Mizutani in the Russian League - Strange performance

sebas-aguirre · Feb 21, 2016

omg!!!
for the first time I feel completely identified with a pro player.....
it's like looking at a mirror

-he serves with bh. too much effort to serve fh, need to move a lot.
-he doesn't go all the way to the middle of the table to dry his hand. it's too far. he dries it in his short.
-5:40 naaaa ball is too far away, give me another one.
-7:17 scratches his back like "this is way too boring, I need some french fries, a coke, a tv and a massage sofa"
-0-2 9-10 -> misses last serve. goes out like a boss.

violoniste18 · Feb 22, 2016

it's seems to be Mizutani's ghost ... not motivated for sure !

TTHopeful · Feb 22, 2016

What tournament was this in?

Dan · Feb 22, 2016

What is going on here does anyone know? Mizutani doesn't even shake his coaches hand or team mates at the end. I don't think this was just a poor performance from Jun, something else must be going on...

TTLondon2012 · Feb 22, 2016

what happening?

violoniste18 · Feb 22, 2016

in French, one says "il a balancé le match", so as a "match junking", he's quite unrecognizable

Takkyu_wa_inochi · Feb 22, 2016

he just earned 10,000$. some stupid broker offered Gusev at winning at 100/1

AlexTax · Feb 22, 2016

Definitely lost on purpose...such a frustating match even for his opponent..

TTHopeful · Feb 22, 2016

Takkyu_wa_inochi said:
he just earned 10,000$. some stupid broker offered Gusev at winning at 100/1

Really? I see your from Japan with your flag maybe you have more news on this maybe there is Japan article about this match?

rokphish · Feb 22, 2016

Dan said:
What is going on here does anyone know? Mizutani doesn't even shake his coaches hand or team mates at the end. I don't think this was just a poor performance from Jun, something else must be going on...

yes, i think there's some problems with him and his team, not only he didn't shake or make any gesture to his coach and mates, they also didn't even look at him or make any gestures at all... either he's being told to lose the game, or he's doing it to spite the team. by the reaction of his team mates, it's not a sudden move, so the problem must have had existed even before the game/event.

TTFrenzy · Feb 22, 2016

lol whats wrong with people nowadays . his opponent was glad for winning a bored mizutani ?Wtf dude !!

Hamasaki_Fanz · Feb 22, 2016

maybe that game doesnt matter anymore, so why spend energy on such match, better save it for multiball session

mvnrhd · Feb 22, 2016

rokphish said:
yes, i think there's some problems with him and his team, not only he didn't shake or make any gesture to his coach and mates, they also didn't even look at him or make any gestures at all... either he's being told to lose the game, or he's doing it to spite the team. by the reaction of his team mates, it's not a sudden move, so the problem must have had existed even before the game/event.

After watching the video, I'm pretty sure that he did this to harm his team. At 6:35 you can see Vlasov and Shibaev trying to encourage him... I guess that there has been a dispute going on between Jun and UMMC. I definitively consider Mizutani capable of boycotting this way, just as he wanted to boycott the World Tour in 2013.

Shuki · Feb 22, 2016

Wish there was more new on this. Mizutani is my favorite player and hate to see him play a match like this.

Shuki · Feb 22, 2016

The way he was touching his back, and the fact that he wasn't willing to pick up any balls... Something tells me his back was hurting but his team made him play anyway.

Shuki · Feb 23, 2016

ttmonster said:
How is this affecting your current play ? Can you please explain. The hooked wrist was in vogue earlier and recently the straight wrist is been expounded. However, I think the straight wrist is used, to build technique by reducing the number or moving parts , giving the player feeling of having a very direct contact with the ball and then later on when the technique is in place letting player use a more loose wrist, so that then can uncock the wrist at the point of contact and as long as you are doing that you should be good and thereby adding the rest of the 10% that comes from the wrist. I haven't noticed in international Pros, anyone using the straight wrist completely. I have seen Fan Yijong from oregon keeping the wrist straight in practice or warm up but letting it go when in actual play. I personally prefer to use a lot of wrist in my loops but then it has pros and cons, pros being you will be able to loop really heavy backspin especially with side spin that going away from your forehand , e.g. super heavy hook or punch serve , however its very easy to lose the timing on your forehand if you are not in constanct practice. Hope this helps ....

Wrong thread

ttmonster · Feb 23, 2016

Thank you Shuki ! I will repost it in the correct thread !

NichoMarpaunk · Feb 23, 2016

wtf new ball every points

Kokain · Feb 23, 2016

Pathetic, Gusev nearly end up beating himself. Jun was trying as hard as possible not to win but this Gusev guy was persistent at making the score tight lel. I liked the 3rd game where the coach was talking to him. "Dude he is not even ****ing trying you have to out-worst him and miss more balls. We know you suck but today you are in good shape and some how putting them more on the table than usual.....go, go Gusev he is waiting for you". Then somehow the score ends up worst and Jun is even more ahead hahahaha By the way, we are lucky Mizutani was serving at the end, he was probably thinking " Jesus H. ****ing Christ, this russian Gusev is trying to boycott my loosing streak. Here is a special serve for you, you prick. Win this!!!!"

p.s This match reminds me when I play against 3rd division players at my club and I try to lose on purpose and sometimes my god I think it's ****ing impossible with all these dickheads around. It seems the less you try, the more the other guys start sucking too. Jun Mizutani should put this moto on his next Butterfly blade " It's Not Easy Losing Sometimes " 7 ply ZLC OFF+

brabhamista · Feb 23, 2016

sebas-aguirre said:
-5:40 naaaa ball is too far away, give me another one.

Shuki said:
The way he was touching his back, and the fact that he wasn't willing to pick up any balls...

NichoMarpaunk said:
wtf new ball every points

That Mizutani isn't picking up any balls has nothing to do with his health/attitude/play/commitment in this particular match. It's just the way the Russian league regulates matchplay: Don't pick up balls, get a new one from the umpire instead. Supposedly it saves time.

It's not a new thing. The Russian league copied the system from the Chinese Superleague who has used this ball system for 3-4 seasons now.

My take on this is that it isn't about matchfixing. Sure, Mizutani throws the match deliberately, but looking at the footage it seems to me he's losing with the intention of hurting the team for some unknown reason. I wonder what's behind all this. It'll surface all in due time, I guess.

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