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The point of a Match should be to win the match, not to win every Single set.I personally find this format quite interesting because it puts pressure on the player for dropping a single game, even more so than BO5. It's the lack of incentives (i.e. ranking points) that hurt the players' motivation.
according to MattIs this the first instance of a racket sport implementing the concept of draws for the group stage like in FIFA World Cup?
It makes sense in soccer/football since who knows how deep into extra time a match can go without a score. Penalty kicks are just coinflipping with the illusion of some agency.according to Matt
yes
some genius decided to test it at a world cup, and inform everyone at the last min
no different to that of the "3 game" at mixed teams world cup
world cup seems to be the testing ground
I hate the format as well, but I don't understand the behaviour. Couldn't you play this 'dead' game for the fun of playing? Or for the audience to see something beautiful? Because it is still a fun and beautiful sport, isn't it? Or it no longer is once you become a professional?It makes sense in soccer/football since who knows how deep into extra time a match can go without a score. Penalty kicks are just coinflipping with the illusion of some agency.
But what's the point of this system in table tennis? There were a lot of 4-0 wins which means an extra game was played when it wasn't really necessary. Then you have the utter silliness of playing meaningless games like we saw all of today. I think the ref warned Moregard about behavior simply because he was going for trickshots and turning it into an exhibition. Instead he just dumped balls into the net and served off the table to get it over with.
Whoever came up with this idea clearly didn't think it through deeply enough.
Well Moregard tried to do that but then the ref gave him a warning. So I guess you're not allowed to.I hate the format as well, but I don't understand the behaviour. Couldn't you play this 'dead' game for the fun of playing? Or for the audience to see something beautiful? Because it is still a fun and beautiful sport, isn't it? Or it no longer is once you become a professional?
in a lot of domestic qualifications matching in Taiwan, some times the finals is pointlessWell Moregard tried to do that but then the ref gave him a warning. So I guess you're not allowed to.
Professionals also have to worry about their health and remain injury free. Them getting paid for an exhibition match is one thing, but why risk their livelihood when there are no stakes remaining?
Same thing with Harimoto. He won that 4th game and looked so relieved like he dodged a huge bullet. Then pan over to him 5 minutes later and he's crying on the bench next to the coach.
Surely it isn't possible to change a ruleset mid-tournament, right?no one knows what is going on
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So, it was based on PW/L, which was the case for around 1.5hr
then ITTF change it to highest point, of which Harimoto is higher
If one was the record Point win/loss, then surely PW/L factor should outweigh?
no one knows what is going on.Surely it isn't possible to change a ruleset mid-tournament, right?
Frankly, it's quite embarassing that something like this happens...
Plus, it doesn't seem very fair for Jonathan Groth to be out with a better point win/loss differential!
Same thing with Harimoto. He won that 4th game and looked so relieved like he dodged a huge bullet. Then pan over to him 5 minutes later and he's crying on the bench next to the coach.
In terms of point win ratio, Groth winsI think Harimoto believed the points as a tie breaker only applied to the current match with Groth. He won by more points in their 2-2 tie so he should rightfully win.
But ITTF apparently had the point win ratio apply over the entirety of the group, which seems to makes less sense. Maybe ITTF themselves didn't know which system they were actually using until it became an issue between Harimoto and Groth.
Well that's the thing, nobody seems to know what the ruleset was.Surely it isn't possible to change a ruleset mid-tournament, right?
Frankly, it's quite embarassing that something like this happens...
Plus, it doesn't seem very fair for Jonathan Groth to be out with a better point win/loss differential!
Well, it really is a mess then...no one knows what is going on.
i don't even think the umpire of the match would be clear
as Matt pointless out, world cup group stage players was used as a guinea pig for this new idea
What the hell?! That doesn’t make sense at all. Based on this if you win a game 15-13 it’s worth more than if you win 11-0. Who the hell came up with this??no one knows what is going on
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So, it was based on PW/L, which was the case for around 1.5hr
then ITTF change it to highest point, of which Harimoto is higher
If one was the record Point win/loss, then surely PW/L factor should outweigh?
I probably saw the P W/L that Groth shared.
and everyone, including ITTF media staff, had Groth as winner.
then someone goes and update the draw result.
I wonder if this has ever happened in any sporting world cup.
In terms of point win ratio, Growth wins
in terms of most point win, Harimoto wins