Aliexpress Singles Day Sale 2023

[hclnnkhg]

Anybody tried this Meng Su brand? https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806068690713.html?spm=a2g0o.home.qualitypicks.4.493d2145hwRM4Z&gps-id=pcJustForYouTop&scm=1007.13562.333647.0&scm_id=1007.13562.333647.0&scm-url=1007.13562.333647.0&pvid=3eb19330-78c6-4172-ae06-9e1be308ea80&_t=gps-idcJustForYouTop,scm-url:1007.13562.333647.0,pvid:3eb19330-78c6-4172-ae06-9e1be308ea80,tpp_buckets:668#2846#8113#1998&pdp_npi=4@dis!USD!16.37!10.8!!!116.19!!@2103146c17013644036206964e887e!12000036485401064!rec!US!1644340096!

It looks like a tensor style rubber, but I wonder if it is any good

Relatively popular on Chinese internet, similar caliber as Moon Speed, but I didn't look for anything further since it is not ITTF approved.

 

[riemsesy]

Agreed with you, looks good in pictures and good selling price.

Thank you in advance for your opinion by next Monday.

I had them both with me
both paired with sanwei gear hyper medium soft forehand and backhand.
The Sanwei 75 outer ALC (blue/black handle) best suits me. Considering my level I had the feeling I could control the ball. The balls went where I wanted them to go (more or less)
The Sanwei 75 inner ALC (brown/grey handle) was just uncontrollable for me. It was a day and night difference, of the table, too high, in the net, too hard or too soft. I tried to concentrate on blocking but it just didn't work.
And normally I do not have problems blocking. As soon as I took the outer ALC it just played better, I made less mistakes.
There was a more experienced player and he liked them both, the inner ALC was faster than the outer ALC, he said, and last had more control.
There is someone at our club with a viscaria and T05 / T05fx, I hope I see him Wednesday, maybe I can ask him his opinion.
I keep playing with the outer ALC.

 

[hclnnkhg]

I had them both with me
both paired with sanwei gear hyper medium soft forehand and backhand.
The Sanwei 75 outer ALC (blue/black handle) best suits me. Considering my level I had the feeling I could control the ball. The balls went where I wanted them to go (more or less)
The Sanwei 75 inner ALC (brown/grey handle) was just uncontrollable for me. It was a day and night difference, of the table, too high, in the net, too hard or too soft. I tried to concentrate on blocking but it just didn't work.
And normally I do not have problems blocking. As soon as I took the outer ALC it just played better, I made less mistakes.
There was a more experienced player and he liked them both, the inner ALC was faster than the outer ALC, he said, and last had more control.
There is someone at our club with a viscaria and T05 / T05fx, I hope I see him Wednesday, maybe I can ask him his opinion.
I keep playing with the outer ALC.

Was the inner ALC uncontrollable because it is too fast, or too non-linear, or the arc is extremely high or low?
Also I would be very interested to hear more about the gear hyper, especially how it compares to other rubbers! Many thanks.

 

[TT Lover]

I had them both with me
both paired with sanwei gear hyper medium soft forehand and backhand.
The Sanwei 75 outer ALC (blue/black handle) best suits me. Considering my level I had the feeling I could control the ball. The balls went where I wanted them to go (more or less)
The Sanwei 75 inner ALC (brown/grey handle) was just uncontrollable for me. It was a day and night difference, of the table, too high, in the net, too hard or too soft. I tried to concentrate on blocking but it just didn't work.
And normally I do not have problems blocking. As soon as I took the outer ALC it just played better, I made less mistakes.
There was a more experienced player and he liked them both, the inner ALC was faster than the outer ALC, he said, and last had more control.
There is someone at our club with a viscaria and T05 / T05fx, I hope I see him Wednesday, maybe I can ask him his opinion.
I keep playing with the outer ALC.

Thank you for your opinion sir.

Very wonder to hearing that Sanwei 75 Inner ALC was faster and uncontrollable than Sanwei 75 Outer ALC.

Best regards,

 

[turbozed]

I had them both with me
both paired with sanwei gear hyper medium soft forehand and backhand.
The Sanwei 75 outer ALC (blue/black handle) best suits me. Considering my level I had the feeling I could control the ball. The balls went where I wanted them to go (more or less)
The Sanwei 75 inner ALC (brown/grey handle) was just uncontrollable for me. It was a day and night difference, of the table, too high, in the net, too hard or too soft. I tried to concentrate on blocking but it just didn't work.
And normally I do not have problems blocking. As soon as I took the outer ALC it just played better, I made less mistakes.
There was a more experienced player and he liked them both, the inner ALC was faster than the outer ALC, he said, and last had more control.
There is someone at our club with a viscaria and T05 / T05fx, I hope I see him Wednesday, maybe I can ask him his opinion.
I keep playing with the outer ALC.

That's very bizarre how moving the ALC layer towards the core would result in significantly less control when all else is kept the same compositionally. Did you get a chance to test the frequency of both blades before gluing? Appreciate the review.

 

[riemsesy]

Was the inner ALC uncontrollable because it is too fast, or too non-linear, or the arc is extremely high or low?

wow.. yes, I guess I have to be more experienced to name those differences
let me tell you what happened and you decide what label belongs to it
so with the inner alc: blocking.. it just went over the table. I tried topspin, over the table, and couldn't get the ball to arc down. it all felt too nervous for me.
my training partner and I practiced a backhand drill and managed just to do 4 or 5 strokes.
With the outer and instantly we could do 10 to 20 strokes on the backhand.
As others say.. the inner core should be more slow and controleable?
maybe the structure is the difference, or I have a very springy inner alc racket.
Also the two have different cores. Could that be a difference?

Sanwei 75 inner ALC Structure: KOTO+ Ayous+ ALC+    Ayous+ ALC+    Ayous+ KOTO
Sanwei 75 outer ALC Structure: KOTO+ ALC+   Ayous+  Kiri+  Ayous+  ALC+   KOTO

 

[riemsesy]

Also I would be very interested to hear more about the gear hyper, especially how it compares to other rubbers! Many thanks.

I do not have a lot of experience with different rubbers. I have played with palio ak47 soft and hard, I like them both.
I think Gear Hyper is spinnier/grippier than AK47 and a bit faster and thicker.
I played with blades from people in my group but we all are using beginner or intermediate rubbers.

 

[riemsesy]

That's very bizarre how moving the ALC layer towards the core would result in significantly less control when all else is kept the same compositionally. Did you get a chance to test the frequency of both blades before gluing? Appreciate the review.

What I've read is that the composition isn't the same.
"Ayous is relatively stiff, and harder and a bit heavier than Kiri. "
The inner has a Ayous core (according to a supplier on AliExpress

How to measure the frequency? I have no problem removing the rubbers and regluing them if I can measure frequency.

 

[Dominikk85]

That's very bizarre how moving the ALC layer towards the core would result in significantly less control when all else is kept the same compositionally. Did you get a chance to test the frequency of both blades before gluing? Appreciate the review.

How is the quality control of those bats? Maybe one is significantly heavier or has different thickness in the layers?

 

[TT Lover]

What I've read is that the composition isn't the same.
"Ayous is relatively stiff, and harder and a bit heavier than Kiri. "
The inner has a Ayous core (according to a supplier on AliExpress

How to measure the frequency? I have no problem removing the rubbers and regluing them if I can measure frequency.

What is the weight of your Sanwei 75 Inner ALC blade (WITHOUT RUBBER ON THE BLADE) ?

The weight of your Sanwei 75 Inner ALC might be heavier weight than your Sanwei 75 Outer ALC.

Thank you.
Best regards,

 

[turbozed]

What I've read is that the composition isn't the same.
"Ayous is relatively stiff, and harder and a bit heavier than Kiri. "
The inner has a Ayous core (according to a supplier on AliExpress

How to measure the frequency? I have no problem removing the rubbers and regluing them if I can measure frequency.

Ah, my mistake. I thought the cores were the same Ayous. Ayous is slightly harder and denser than kiri but slightly.

To measure frequency you will want to download an app called "Advanced Spectrum Analyzer Pro" on your phone. Here's some instructions I found:

1. Click on the 3 horizontal lines on the top right
2. Select "Enable Peak Hold"
3. Hit play
4. Bounce the ball on the bare blade a few times
5. Hit pause on the app. Then see frequency with peak amplitude

Here's a long discussion about it: https://mytabletennis.net/forum/topic38419.html

 

[riemsesy]

Ah, my mistake. I thought the cores were the same Ayous. Ayous is slightly harder and denser than kiri but slightly.

To measure frequency you will want to download an app called "Advanced Spectrum Analyzer Pro" on your phone. Here's some instructions I found:

Here's a long discussion about it: https://mytabletennis.net/forum/topic38419.html

So I did some measurements and they contradict my experience 🙃 and confirm what you suspect
Weight:
Outer weighs 92,61 grams
Inner weighs 88,12 grams

Frequency:
Outer 1471
Inner 1441

I weighed the rubbers after I ripped them off, and each pair weighed together 96grams

dunno what I must think of it now.

 

[lodro]

To measure frequency you will want to download an app called "Advanced Spectrum Analyzer Pro" on your phone

Being completely honest, this advanced version to me is as "idiotic" as the standard version. I really do not care about fancy graphics and 100 000 options, All i want is the result displayed in one big number in Hz. 😂

 

[TensorBackhand]

Sanwei 75 arrived

 

[riemsesy]

 

[riemsesy]

 

[riemsesy]

Being completely honest, this advanced version to me is as "idiotic" as the standard version. I really do not care about fancy graphics and 100 000 options, All i want is the result displayed in one big number in Hz. 😂

And for iOS most of these apps are paid for and then I found a free version where the author writes that the software for this technology is free for anyone to use.
Btw no app I found and tried could show me that frequency number like we want. There was one app that had a button “Peak Hold” but it held nothing.
I found freeware for the pc which showed the peak frequency long enough.

 

[riemsesy]

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Sanwei 75 arrived

Happy EJ-ing 😁
Yours is a bit lighter then mine.
You’ll notice that the build quality is very good. Surface of the blade is very smooth. I guess it’s sealed. I didn’t bother lacquering/sealing it. And when I peeled the rubbers of it came of very easily.

 

[turbozed]

Happy EJ-ing 😁
Yours is a bit lighter then mine.
You’ll notice that the build quality is very good. Surface of the blade is very smooth. I guess it’s sealed. I didn’t bother lacquering/sealing it. And when I peeled the rubbers of it came of very easily.

Koto outers are generally safer from splintering. I would still lightly seal any limba outer blades. People have even told me that their unsealed W968 blades have had splintering.

 

[lodro]

And for iOS most of these apps are paid for and then I found a free version where the author writes that the software for this technology is free for anyone to use.
Btw no app I found and tried could show me that frequency number like we want. There was one app that had a button “Peak Hold” but it held nothing.
I found freeware for the pc which showed the peak frequency long enough.

I do have better luck with the standard version of "spectrum analyzer"