Attacking Long Pip Players like Ni Xia Lian and Zhou Xintong... but at the amateur level?!

[LordPippington]

I'm looking to study players using long pips to attack, preferably with penhols grip.

I see ni xia lian uses curl p1 ox... and doesn't ever seem to play passively! She swats and swats and swats...

Zhou xintong does a lot more "pip-like" strokes and chop blocks.

Do you know of any amateur players who use similar styles - aggressive with lp - and not the more defensive style that manika batra, sreeja akula and the like uses 🤔

 

[NextLevel]

I'm looking to study players using long pips to attack, preferably with penhols grip.

I see ni xia lian uses curl p1 ox... and doesn't ever seem to play passively! She swats and swats and swats...

Zhou xintong does a lot more "pip-like" strokes and chop blocks.

Do you know of any amateur players who use similar styles - aggressive with lp - and not the more defensive style that manika batra, sreeja akula and the like uses 🤔

What do you mean by amateur?

Non-professionals who hit with pips (especially on backhand) are not that uncommon. Dickie Fleisher has done so for a very long time in the USA. I had a friend who was also more offensive, but he has now started chopping so I am trying to convince him to go back to his old style.

Yang Xiaoxin has a lot of videos on pongspace Youtube channel on using pips:

Even players that are offensive mix in defensive techniques a lot. I think there is a guy at WRM-TV that qualifies but I can't find his videos at the moment. Good luck!

 

[LordPippington]

What do you mean by amateur?

Non-professionals who hit with pips are not that uncommon. Dickie Fleisher has done so for a very long time in the USA. I had a friend who was also more offensive, but he has now started chopping so I am trying to convince him to go back to his old style.

Yang Xiaoxin has a lot of videos on pongspace Youtube channel on using pips:

Even players that are offensive mix in defensive techniques a lot. I think there is a guy at WRM-TV that qualifies but I can't find his videos at the moment. Good luck!

Hey, wow! Thanks for that Dickie video -- yeah, I have seen him before with the old videos... I watch Heming as well, once in a while, but didn't catch this match vs Dickie!

Yeah, by amateur... I just mean people who are not THAT good, haha! People who use long pips offensively (aren't they always offensive to people? ), going for winners and not just block block block, oops you missed! style

 

[NextLevel]

Hey, wow! Thanks for that Dickie video -- yeah, I have seen him before with the old videos... I watch Heming as well, once in a while, but didn't catch this match vs Dickie!

Yeah, by amateur... I just mean people who are not THAT good, haha! People who use long pips offensively (aren't they always offensive to people? ), going for winners and not just block block block, oops you missed! style

It is hard to hit a ball with long pips that compares to topspin, especially on video. The attack is just more disturbing because it doesn't spin the way inverted does. Developing the technique is not impossible, but it requires a good and willing hitting partner or a good and patient coach. Because both players need to be willing to open their racket to hit the ball, not just the pips player. And on many shots, unless it is multiball, this will be alien to the inverted player.

 

[blahness]

lol they're everywhere especially at the higher amateur level.....

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

I'm looking to study players using long pips to attack, preferably with penhols grip.

I see ni xia lian uses curl p1 ox... and doesn't ever seem to play passively! She swats and swats and swats...

Zhou xintong does a lot more "pip-like" strokes and chop blocks.

Do you know of any amateur players who use similar styles - aggressive with lp - and not the more defensive style that manika batra, sreeja akula and the like uses 🤔

I am baffled! To me, pipsters are the domain of amateurs. Dime a dozen. Go to any club, if there are many over 40 years-old players, you will probably hit one if you randomly throw a gravel. Two side inverted, on the other hand are the minority in the amateur scene.

 

[Lazer]

In my country they are very very few…
In my club I can’t think of anyone…
We have one short pimple guy, but his style is quite regular. Not much spin reverse… (By the way I think that’s the wrong word for it…)

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

In my country they are very very few…
In my club I can’t think of anyone…
We have one short pimple guy, but his style is quite regular. Not much spin reverse… (By the way I think that’s the wrong word for it…)

Cheers
L-zr

No wayyyyyyyyy! Liar liar pants on fire!

Unless, gasp! You are playing in a bona-fide academy type filled to the brim with school going children training for competitive games. U10 / U13 / U15 / U17 / U19 / collegiate players.

If you are in some social clubs, most likely you'll meet tonnes of pips player. Those who usually does not want to move too much, prefer to stand like a tree in the middle of the table, at most half a step to the left or right only.

 

[Lazer]

No wayyyyyyyyy! Liar liar pants on fire!

Unless, gasp! You are playing in a bona-fide academy type filled to the brim with school going children training for competitive games. U10 / U13 / U15 / U17 / U19 / collegiate players.

If you are in some social clubs, most likely you'll meet tonnes of pips player. Those who usually does not want to move too much, prefer to stand like a tree in the middle of the table, at most half a step to the left or right only.

Nope, I’m in Waldners and Appelgrens club in the senior “hobby players” group. But it’s the same everywhere. I think pips are not used in Europe, more in the rest of the world. Eastern Europe may be different…

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Nope, I’m in Waldners and Appelgrens club in the senior “hobby players” group. But it’s the same everywhere. I think pips are not used in Europe, more in the rest of the world. Eastern Europe may be different…

Cheers
L-zr

meanwhile one of the worlds best short pips players is from Sweden
the long pips womens chopper isn't bad too

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Too many of them. I got trashed yday by a doubles pips players. SP on FH and LP 0x on BH

He was very agressive both sides. With LP he always gave sidespin to the ball contacting the ball on the left side and often aiming to the wide FH

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

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[Lazer]

meanwhile one of the worlds best short pips players is from Sweden
the long pips womens chopper isn't bad too

That’s our pimple player 🤣
Naa, we got some but not many.

Cheers
L-zr

 

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(not exactly "amateurs" obvs)

 

[Lando]

 

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[LordPippington]

Those are some nice videos, excellent! Thank you!

Is there a reason most all of them use the Chinese long pips, such as dawei 388d1 or saviga v? Just accessible in China?

They're cheap, but a lot of versions and variations... so tough to know exactly which one you'll get depending where you order from. I ordered the 388d1 a while back from one spot... and it came with 3 different colored sponges! One purple, one yellow and one white.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

KOJIMA Wataru from WRM

he's horrible to play, i wouldn't get past 2 or 3 points against this guy