Best Rubbers for Fan Zhendong ALC

[NextLevel]

I did say I agreed with you but its a lot easier to test one blade than multiples of the same one, thats all I meant.

But yeah the TT11 guys really hate on Butterfly in that review - which compared with most peoples (and mine of that particular rubber) doesn't make any sense. But I imagine they made that video to sell the other rubbers rather than 09C. So motive always needs to be factored in.

At the end of the day - its upto you to see if it works for you at that particular time. I dont take someones review as gospel - but I do find it interesting to shortlist and narrow down my search.
After trying out the products and watching lots of Dan and Toms reviews I can work out what I might like and what I wont from there new ones.
On paper the Harimoto ALC was exactly what i (thought) I wanted - and after their review I ended up picking one up second hand. It was the opposite, I didn't like it at all. It might just have been a strange version in someway. But I might like it more now if i tried it again as your technique changes and evolves.

Nowadays, it is easy to use phone software to test one of the major vibration frequencies and use that to see whether a blade is similar or different. I find that the differences in blades often shows up in the frequency measurement. I liked one Carbonado 190 and its frequency seemed to be in the low to mid 1200s, but another Carbonado was almost 1400, which is in the higher part of my preferred range. Maybe measuring the frequency of a setup will be educational as well. That said, I encourage people to measure the frequency of their blades and maybe setups to see whether their feeling is largely being influenced by that in deciding what to use or not. Obviously your feeling changes with time so the numbers are just one data point, not everything.

 

[jammmail]

Nowadays, it is easy to use phone software to test one of the major vibration frequencies and use that to see whether a blade is similar or different. I find that the differences in blades often shows up in the frequency measurement. I liked one Carbonado 190 and its frequency seemed to be in the low to mid 1200s, but another Carbonado was almost 1400, which is in the higher part of my preferred range. Maybe measuring the frequency of a setup will be educational as well. That said, I encourage people to measure the frequency of their blades and maybe setups to see whether their feeling is largely being influenced by that in deciding what to use or not. Obviously your feeling changes with time so the numbers are just one data point, not everything.

Do you have any guides - or can describe how you do that?

 

[hclnnkhg]

Do you have any guides - or can describe how you do that?

Table Tennis Blade Frequency (Speed) Compendium

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[NextLevel]

I think the TT11 guys generally prefer a more controllable rubber over a really powerful rubber. If my memory serves me correctly there is another review where most testers prefer tibhar aurus over MXP.

I think there is a lot of room in TT for finding controllable rubbers powerful and powerful rubbers controllable. Is sticky rubber powerful or controllable? Does a rubber that gives you more spin and speed at low to medium impacts more powerful? Or is a rubber that holds the ball and spins it on the table at higher impacts more powerful?

 

[NextLevel]

Do you have any guides - or can describe how you do that?

Blade Speed Comparison Sheet

Given that most of the links are buried in the original thread started by slevin, I wanted to make a...

mytabletennis.net

 

[hclnnkhg]

I think there is a lot of room in TT for finding controllable rubbers powerful and powerful rubbers controllable. Is sticky rubber powerful or controllable? Does a rubber that gives you more spin and speed at low to medium impacts more powerful? Or is a rubber that holds the ball and spins it on the table at higher impacts more powerful?

we need standardize equipment tests

 

[immacupcake]

I use both blades. Actually I find them to be quite different. Both are 87g.FZD + black 09c and reD05 plays super slow compared to TBALC. TBALC feels rock solid on contact, firm.FZDALC is really soft in comparison. It is easier to loop tho. Furthermore, FZD has some really strange vibrations.In conclusion, I would pick TBALC any day and twice on Sunday 🙂 FZDALC is unlike any ALC-based blade I have tried. I do not like it at all.

This is a pretty late reply but you are currently using FZDALC so...

 

[Angerer]

This is a pretty late reply but you are currently using FZDALC so...

I gotta say, the author was right about D09C -- I would say FZD ALC is a bit too slow for D09C. My FZD ALC is slightly softer and less crisp than Viscaria and noticeably softer and less crisp than TB ALC. Imo, FZD ALC has more arc/spin/dwell and less kick.
Imo, FZD ALC plays best with softer rubbers up until 50-51 degrees: Tenergy 19, Tenergy 05, Tenergy 05FX, Glayzer, Dignics 05, all rubbers in the MK Hybrid line-up. They were all excellent and intuitive, but Tenergy 19 is just outstanding on FZD ALC (as somebody had already mentioned).

 

[BobFL]

This is a pretty late reply but you are currently using FZDALC so...

Omnia mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis.

 

[GhostBackhand]

I currently have two Viscaria blades (Chinese and Japanese versions), two FZD blades (Chinese and Japanese versions), and two Timo Boll blades. All of them were tested with Tenergy 80 on the backhand and Dignics 09C on the forehand. Among these, the FZD blade feels the softest and most comfortable overall. It offers excellent control and makes passive blocks quite effortless. However, in attacking play, it lacks the crisp, lively feedback and solid power that the Viscaria or Timo Boll provides. While it’s great for consistency and touch, it doesn’t deliver the same “kick” or penetrating feel when you go for strong loops.