boosting .. when again

[riemsesy]

So when and how do you notice that the quality of the boost is disappearing?
I am not very experienced with boosting, but the effect will be less in time. How do you notice when that effect gradually goes away? Don't you get used to the lesser boost effect?
Or do you replace the rubber at a fixed time?

 

[mcfly]

i’ve said it before and im saying it again: you reboost after losing

 

[Attitude]

Objective factors:
Your shots start to land closer to the net or fall into it more often.
Your shots produce a lower arc.
Timefactor (depending on who you ask and maybe what booster you used)


Subjective/feeling factors:
Your rubber cant grip the ball as it used to
You feel you create less spin
There is no decent bounce from your shots
you feel the time has come

It depends on many factors.
Usually to make sure i changed rubbers after 2-3 months.
Currently i am trying to stretch that and not reboost because our god @God-scrubplayer said so 😅
Im curious if the breakin will reduce the need to reboost enough.

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

You'll know. And if you can't feel a noticeable effect that changes the way your shots come out, then you are in luck

 

[netdriver]

Objective factors:
Your shots start to land closer to the net or fall into it more often.
Your shots produce a lower arc.
Timefactor (depending on who you ask and maybe what booster you used)


Subjective/feeling factors:
Your rubber cant grip the ball as it used to
You feel you create less spin
There is no decent bounce from your shots
you feel the time has come

It depends on many factors.
Usually to make sure i changed rubbers after 2-3 months.
Currently i am trying to stretch that and not reboost because our god @God-scrubplayer said so 😅
Im curious if the breakin will reduce the need to reboost enough.

i personally dont reboost

i did it three times (reboosting three different rubbers once) and everytime i boost the rubber a 2nd time it feels mushy af

only one thin layer of booster ofc

maybe thats why people go for harder sponges like 41? but the 729 battle max pro i had was 41 degrees and still felt like mushy garbage like the other reboosted rubbers i had right after reboosting it

 

[dingyibvs]

So when and how do you notice that the quality of the boost is disappearing?
I am not very experienced with boosting, but the effect will be less in time. How do you notice when that effect gradually goes away? Don't you get used to the lesser boost effect?
Or do you replace the rubber at a fixed time?

After the boosting effect wears away the H3 is still fairly playable. The glue also hardens after a couple months though, so it may be time to reboost after that. Don't reboost a lot, I use just enough to make the rubber flat again. After the 2nd reboost the rubber feels rather mushy. You can still play with it, but as a decent level amateur it's probably best to just get a new one. If you can get 3-4 months out of a sheet that's already a better deal than D09c.

 

[Tyce]

Since you're basically stretching out the sponge internally, it's going to be flubbery at some point. Think about a balloon that's already been inflated once, it's much easier to do it a second time, and the third, but keep doing it and it will pop because it's been weakened too much.

There's a couple of factors here:
- how much do you boost? The harder you stress the sponge the quicker it will wear out. Using a thin layer, maybe two at most, you can expect at least one reboost to still work.
- how good is the sponge? If it's brittle, don't expect much from a reboost.
- more dense sponge (from the same material) will react slowly to boost, but also retain the effect longer.
- lots of temperature changes will have an adverse effect on boost retention.


Now, your question also was, how do I know if I need to reboost?
- if you use light amounts, the fade will be very gradual and hard to notice. It's pretty much going to be a case of feeling if you notice a bit of pop missing from the rubber.
- if you use larger amounts of booster, the effects will be easier to feel. Your rubber will miss springiness
- any lasting effect of booster will only be a softer, stretched, weaker sponge. Meaning the rubber will still be easier to engage, but the top end will be lacking as booster wears off. Basically, if your harder shots start coming up short, slow and out of spin, the boost has left the sponge.

 

[thisisit]

i get about 1.5 months worth of play with 2-3 sessions/week before the booster effect disappears.

i'm fairly certain i can feel the effect decay after about 2 weeks but it's sure as hell not there anymore after 6.

 

[Angerer]

As someone said above, you should re-boost after you feel the arc becomes lower and the ball lands right under the net or into it.

For me, the terms are the following:
- Falco Long - 2-3 months or forever.
- Haifu National - 2-4 weeks.
- Kailin - 7-10 days.

 

[Aizen]

You can measure rubber hardness by a cheap durometer,

I usually re-boost within 2-3 months, initial re-boost is 1-2 layer depending on hardness. (trying to match D09c hardness)
then again after 2-3 months 2nd reboost happens.

It all depends on your liking and playing hours, storing paddle etc. But it's almost loses %80 of boosting effect in 3 months with Seamoon and H3 blue prov.

 

[Zezima]

You can measure rubber hardness by a cheap durometer,

I usually re-boost within 2-3 months, initial re-boost is 1-2 layer depending on hardness. (trying to match D09c hardness)
then again after 2-3 months 2nd reboost happens.

It all depends on your liking and playing hours, storing paddle etc. But it's almost loses %80 of boosting effect in 3 months with Seamoon and H3 blue prov.

You boost butterfly rubbers?

 

[Aizen]

No, I boost H3 to make similar hardness with D09c. Not boost D09c.

But of course, I've boosted worn out non-Chinese rubbers as well for just testing.

 

[riemsesy]

You boost butterfly rubbers?

No, I boost H3 to make similar hardness with D09c. Not boost D09c.

But of course, I've boosted worn out non-Chinese rubbers as well for just testing.

@Aizen I understand his question because you have Dignics in your profile.
That was my thought too, when I read your answer

 

[Aizen]

Thanks, I thought so, my bad I should've start with that.

Currently using D09c but until 3-4 months ago, I've used use H3.

 

[riemsesy]

and you prefer H3N over D09c now?

 

[Aizen]

and you prefer H3N over D09c now?

No, still using D09c, I may go back to H3 but D09c is so convenient no need to boost, reboost, glue etc. also more resilient to humidity.

 

[Jslick89]

I reboosted after i felt like too many of my shots were going into the net. took about 5 or 6 months...but i have two paddles that i use kinda equally so maybe 3 months if you only use one paddle?

 

[Zezima]

No, still using D09c, I may go back to H3 but D09c is so convenient no need to boost, reboost, glue etc. also more resilient to humidity.

where do you buy it and for how much? on Prott it seems cheaper. But maybe I gotta pay additional fees when it comes to my country I heard?

 

[Aizen]

where do you buy it and for how much? on Prott it seems cheaper. But maybe I gotta pay additional fees when it comes to my country I heard?

H3 blue and seamoon booster from tt11
D09c from butterfly.nl (which is dandoy)

Prott.vip seems cheaper but shipping :/ also it charms me to buy w968

 

[BlueInGreen]

I play ~12h/week and use normal Haifu Seamoon. In my experience, it takes around a month for the reduction in the booster's effect to become noticeable enough to make me consider reboosting. It is definitely a gradual process, but at some point the signs become too obvious to ignore:

- Looping underspin becomes more difficult, and more shots go into the net.
- The same usual mechanics yield lower-quality shots, and you have to hit extra hard for the shot to feel right and produce a "click" sound.
- You simply feel less kick/catapult effect from the rubber, and short swings become less and less viable.
- I tend to leave a bit of overhang so that re-aligning the rubber doesn't become too difficult when I re-glue. As the booster evaporates, it appears to me that the rubber somewhat shrinks (even before peeling it off!) and the overhang looks smaller than before.

I also find myself way more sensitive to changes in the rubber's playing properties on the BH side compared to FH. I'm quite a big-hitter with my FH, so I have less trouble producing high-quality shots even with a barely boosted rubber. BH is a different story though — especially on softer inner carbon blades — and thus I feel like I have to rely more on the rubber for that extra zip. Sometimes I would leave the FH rubber on the blade, and just reboost the BH side.