Butterfly Zyre 03

[rbtitco]

Anybody play Zyre 2.5 yet?

 

[neon]

It will be interesting to see which company will introduce a replica of the Zyre 03.

 

[mikeytt]

It will be interesting to see which company will introduce a replica of the Zyre 03.

TSP in the 1980s apparently 😅

 

[Tiber1337]

this hurts my shoulder just thinking about it. i was surprised by how much of a difference i felt on my 2.15 h3n compared to the 2.10 h3n (same hardness)

what do you mean? what was the difference?

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

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Does Mima Ito still use it as well?
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Yes, Mima still uses G1.

 

[po-stit]

Anybody play Zyre 2.5 yet?

I haven't but i've already tested the 2.7. It has a weird but really nice feeling.

It's like Tenergy, Dignics and Dignics 09c had a baby. A lot of power (i would say at least as fast as Tenergy 80), a lot of arc and a lot of spin.

Feeling closer to Tenergy (loved it), bounciness close to Dignics and arc similar to 09c.
The arc is something ive never experienced. If you give more power the arc gets bigger but it really drops when its closer to the edge of the table. Its a really pronounced arc and not just throwing the ball higher.

At least that was my impression during the short time i tested it on a friends blade.

 

[Jslick89]

what do you mean? what was the difference?

dont wanna derail the thread because i dont know if this is true for the new butterfly rubber, but with hurricane, a thicker sponge, even just .05 is significantly harder to hit through and engage the sponge. i much prefer the thinner sponge over the thicker, even if the thicker sponge has a higher top end for spin and speed.

 

[Zezima]

would this rubber be too fast on a W968 national blade?

 

[Sriver1]

would this rubber be too fast on a W968 national blade?

Yes. Too fast.

 

[joshmak10]

Yes. Too fast.

That’s subjective

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

It will be interesting to see which company will introduce a replica of the Zyre 03.

its the other way around
Zyre 03 is a "replica" of many other ESN rubbers that has thin topsheet, thick sponge

 

[sebi]

Yes. Too fast.

To fast is only an issue of technique and personal lvl. It will be to fast for most Hobby players as we are described by Aruna. But for Semi Pros and Pros it will not be, maybe the occasionally extraordinary Hobby player can even tame it

 

[disaster3]

I'm really curious who it was made for? I'm always 1st to check the "hot cake" and but this time I'm stopping my inner EJ. Tenergy were really demanding... when Dignics was introduced, Tenergy became user(amateur) friendly, Dignics was for Pro's and really good amateurs.... now Zyre is for Pro, and Dignics is for amateur.... lol.
Based on all descriptions and so far tests on YT, it seems that Zyre-03 is somehow updated/tweaked T05h with Dignics Body.... if this is the case, for us mortals it will be difficult to forced this rubber to present everything it was made for. It will be more demanding than D09C, you will need to really hit hard, have good footwork and to be in position everytime to do proper shot..... hehehe Good Luck....
That's why I..... one of the many biggest EJ'er's on this forum has not yet ordered it yet
Before it was available I was in the starting blocks waiting to pull the trigger (my CC) but then realized what side/which rubber I currently play it might replace? Common sense kicked in.
Seems of course just from description of course narrowing to BTY products, if someone was playing D09C on BH will stay with D09C as Zyre-03 is completely different in characteristics. if someone was playing D05 on BH it might give it a try but still more likely will stay with D05, the only thing is for those who were playing T05H on FH where Zyre-03 seems to be natural upgrade.... of course in Pro or semi-Pros it might be a big group but on amateur level, I know nobody who plays T05H, nobody... so it will be only for those who would like to satisfy inner-curiosity.... but it will be expensive test... going forward, that's why I still don't have it

 

[mamedium]

I'm really curious who it was made for? I'm always 1st to check the "hot cake" and but this time I'm stopping my inner EJ. Tenergy were really demanding... when Dignics was introduced, Tenergy became user(amateur) friendly, Dignics was for Pro's and really good amateurs.... now Zyre is for Pro, and Dignics is for amateur.... lol.
Based on all descriptions and so far tests on YT, it seems that Zyre-03 is somehow updated/tweaked T05h with Dignics Body.... if this is the case, for us mortals it will be difficult to forced this rubber to present everything it was made for. It will be more demanding than D09C, you will need to really hit hard, have good footwork and to be in position everytime to do proper shot..... hehehe Good Luck....
That's why I..... one of the many biggest EJ'er's on this forum has not yet ordered it yet
Before it was available I was in the starting blocks waiting to pull the trigger (my CC) but then realized what side/which rubber I currently play it might replace? Common sense kicked in.
Seems of course just from description of course narrowing to BTY products, if someone was playing D09C on BH will stay with D09C as Zyre-03 is completely different in characteristics. if someone was playing D05 on BH it might give it a try but still more likely will stay with D05, the only thing is for those who were playing T05H on FH where Zyre-03 seems to be natural upgrade.... of course in Pro or semi-Pros it might be a big group but on amateur level, I know nobody who plays T05H, nobody... so it will be only for those who would like to satisfy inner-curiosity.... but it will be expensive test... going forward, that's why I still don't have it

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[Tony's Table Tennis]

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this part is "true" somewhat

"Tenergy were really demanding... when Dignics was introduced, Tenergy became user(amateur) friendly, Dignics was for Pro's and really good amateurs.... now Zyre is for Pro, and Dignics is for amateur.... lol."

like they just dropped the tier, but it isn't like the players also improved a tier

 

[NDH]

when Dignics was introduced, Tenergy became user(amateur) friendly,

Don't confuse price with ability.

I personally think Tenergy is a much more difficult rubber to use for most people (compared with Dignics).

It's typically much more reactive to incoming spin, very bouncy and makes short touches and "feel" much harder.

Dignics might be more expensive, and you might need better technique to use it..... (although this is debatable), but I also think it's better suited to amateurs.

You get a better feeling, slower, less reactive rubber if playing passively (as many amateurs do).

 

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[po-stit]

Don't confuse price with ability.

I personally think Tenergy is a much more difficult rubber to use for most people (compared with Dignics).

It's typically much more reactive to incoming spin, very bouncy and makes short touches and "feel" much harder.

Dignics might be more expensive, and you might need better technique to use it..... (although this is debatable), but I also think it's better suited to amateurs.

You get a better feeling, slower, less reactive rubber if playing passively (as many amateurs do).

Completely agree with you. Dignics isn't as easy to impart spin and speed like tenergy is, but it's more forgiving in other aspects of the game. Tenergy 19 is to me the outlier on the Tenergy line.

Zyre 03, from my short test with it seems to borrow the "good" from both sides. Easier to get speed and spin and not bouncy and spin sensitive. While i think its easier to play for the amateur i think it will also be dificult to tame. The arc and speed are really huge and many people (me included) will probably struggle to land the ball on the table consistently, mainly because everyone and his/her grandma seem to play with a fu***** fast carbon blade.

 

[Migzkulit]

Fortunately here in the Philippines, there's a lot of T05hard users and dignics 05 users. A lot of them women, which appeals to most of their playstyles.
Unfortunately, I placed the zyre on a non-carbon blade, but it was still too fast for my taste.
It was also put on a 5 ply wooden blade, Petr Korbel, it was still incredibly fast.

 

[AndySmith]

Don't confuse price with ability.

I personally think Tenergy is a much more difficult rubber to use for most people (compared with Dignics).

It's typically much more reactive to incoming spin, very bouncy and makes short touches and "feel" much harder.

Dignics might be more expensive, and you might need better technique to use it..... (although this is debatable), but I also think it's better suited to amateurs.

You get a better feeling, slower, less reactive rubber if playing passively (as many amateurs do).

Are you talking about all Dignics rubbers, or 09C specifically? I can get behind either of these to be honest, I find D05/80/64 to be smooth over the table (compared to Tenergy), but D05's top end is a bit violent. I think D64 is something of an unsung hero.

For Zyre, it looks like it's not going to be my kind of thing. Lots of comments about the speed being really high.