Butterfly Zyre 03

[pawlott]

I played Zyre for the first time yesterday.
2.7 red on Viscaria Light.
Tremendous kick feeling on small effort.
Hard to control in the beginning definitely.
Push and receive is little bit tricky, ball goes upward and long.
No way to passive block, but aggressive and active block is really good. Counter is easy, just go forward.
If you play active the pressure is really big for opponent.
I' didn't play faster rubber before. Feeling is different.
It's not similar to eu hybrids in my way (metal feeling).
It's more like really heavy boosted Hurricane but sometimes like really hard Tenergy. Kick is special.
I think players like Gerassimenko, Alexis Lebrun, and Hugo would make great use of this rubber in the 2nd and 3rd zones. It's very easy to transition from defense to attack, and high lobs are really powerful. It's a bit ridiculous.
I think 2.5 will be more familiar for us amateurs.

 

[IB66]

What if it lasts twice as long ?

Xiom Omega 8 H seems fair well regarding durability compared to Xiom J&H H52, the sheets I have show no real signs of wear after a good number of months. With the J&H after 4 - 8 weeks the top sheet clearly showed signs of use, and the grippyness faded on the areas of wear.
O8H is not likely to be as durable as BTY rubbers, but is not doing badly at the moment.

 

[vvk1]

My clubmate who's one of the better players in the top local league division has switched from D05 FH/BH to Zyre03 FH/BH about 3 weeks ago. He's a two-winged looper. 3 practice sessions and a tournament after, he says it's bit harder to use at the table/in short game due to the rubber being more lively than D05, however he really prefers Zyre03 over D05, mainly because of the extra speed and spin away from the table.

 

[pawlott]

My clubmate who's one of the better players in the top local league division has switched from D05 FH/BH to Zyre03 FH/BH about 3 weeks ago. He's a two-winged looper. 3 practice sessions and a tournament after, he says it's bit harder to use at the table/in short game due to the rubber being more lively than D05, however he really prefers Zyre03 over D05, mainly because of the extra speed and spin away from the table.

That's what I feel too. Away from the table is more powerful than every rubber.

 

[kindof99]

Xiom Omega 8 H seems fair well regarding durability compared to Xiom J&H H52, the sheets I have show no real signs of wear after a good number of months. With the J&H after 4 - 8 weeks the top sheet clearly showed signs of use, and the grippyness faded on the areas of wear.
O8H is not likely to be as durable as BTY rubbers, but is not doing badly at the moment.

How about the durability of O8 China?

 

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[IB66]

How about the durability of O8 China?

Both O8 China and Hybrid seem to be pretty durable compared to to J&H H52 and maybe J&H C55.
I still have 08 China on BH for both of my match bats. On the FH one has O8H the other Z03
After 3-4 months they still play well, when you use a bat it can be hard to ‘realise’ how the rubber has changed. They are both still slightly tacky, especially after cleaning, they have the same level of tackiness as when new.

 

[merlin el mago]

Guys if you feel the rubber bouncy for sort game isn't the rubber, the problem is that you can't use the rigth technique so don't use the arm and forearm, first move the body to the ball goes so you will be in position to return the ball using fixed arm & tonearm and with an small slow movement of your body you can return the ball low & short.

 

[IB66]

My clubmate who's one of the better players in the top local league division has switched from D05 FH/BH to Zyre03 FH/BH about 3 weeks ago. He's a two-winged looper. 3 practice sessions and a tournament after, he says it's bit harder to use at the table/in short game due to the rubber being more lively than D05, however he really prefers Zyre03 over D05, mainly because of the extra speed and spin away from the table.

Hi vvk1, what blade is he using?

 

[NextLevel]

Guys if you feel the rubber bouncy for sort game isn't the rubber, the problem is that you can't use the rigth technique so don't use the arm and forearm, first move the body to the ball goes so you will be in position to return the ball using fixed arm & tonearm and with an small slow movement of your body you can return the ball low & short.

I feel the rubber is bouncy for everything, I just can't get any extra time to play shots that I could play and control comfortably with D05, D09c or any rubber I remember. Tronix ZGR was the last rubber that made me feel like this lol.

 

[vvk1]

Hi vvk1, what blade is he using?

He switched from D05/D05 on BTY ZJK SZLC to Zyre03/Zyre03 on BTY Viscaria.

 

[IB66]

He switched from D05/D05 on BTY ZJK SZLC to Zyre03/Zyre03 on BTY Viscaria.

I can see why the short game is harder, doesn’t appear to be the case with all wood blades.
I have noticed some balls sliding off the rubber, just on FH flick when you don’t commit properly. A technique issue.

 

[mamedium]

second time playing Z03 on 968 BH. the stability is just making my BH so much safer and yet still giving pressure to my opponent. I beat my practice partner 9-0 after 3 matches and he is considering getting the rubber next week

 

[NDH]

Just to add some context to all of this Z03 discussion….. Because I really do believe that “ability” is massively overlooked when discussing equipment.

For clarity, me (far side, large human), is playing with an inner carbon ALC blade and D09c on both sides.

Near side has a ZJSALC (yes, super!) with a BOOSTED Z03 forehand rubber.

I’ve used it, it’s quick, and too reactive for me personally.

But everyone has this impression that D09c is slow, or useless away from the table, and somehow Z03 is the answer.

Technique matters. A lot. And you can see from the very short video that even a boosted Z03 on a fast blade can be controllable (my playing partner was pretty consistent considering it was the first time he’d used it!) and D09c can be a weapon from away from the table if needed!

For what it’s worth…. The reason I moved to D09c was to get that safety - Just look at the arc, the ball bounces 50-75% down the other side of the table, and it’s quick ENOUGH.

It’s not a rocket, nor as quick/direct as D05 or Z03 but it’s puts the ball in the table much more….

And yes, this is the only clip I have from the match (he recorded), because who doesn’t want to see a backhand winner down the line to go 2-0 up….. 😂

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

I played Zyre for the first time yesterday.
2.7 red on Viscaria Light.
Tremendous kick feeling on small effort.
Hard to control in the beginning definitely.
Push and receive is little bit tricky, ball goes upward and long.
No way to passive block, but aggressive and active block is really good. Counter is easy, just go forward.
If you play active the pressure is really big for opponent.
I' didn't play faster rubber before. Feeling is different.
It's not similar to eu hybrids in my way (metal feeling).
It's more like really heavy boosted Hurricane but sometimes like really hard Tenergy. Kick is special.
I think players like Gerassimenko, Alexis Lebrun, and Hugo would make great use of this rubber in the 2nd and 3rd zones. It's very easy to transition from defense to attack, and high lobs are really powerful. It's a bit ridiculous.
I think 2.5 will be more familiar for us amateurs.

What is Viz Lite?

 

[Arkady]

Tried Zyre yesterday doing a few drills, with a ZJK Super ZLC of a friend mine.
Didn't like it all. The only advantage it has is that it's very fast and excels at blocking

Otherwise, it's definitely less spinny that Dignics 05 or 09C. The topsheet grips the ball, but somehow it's not able to generate as much spin, even with full body swing. Didn't like long pushes with it at all but I didn't test short game.
The arc I would say it medium.

All in all, definitely not worth the hype and it's more a BH rubber than FH

 

[latej]

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[Gozo Zyreruna]

Just to add some context to all of this Z03 discussion….. Because I really do believe that “ability” is massively overlooked when discussing equipment.

For clarity, me (far side, large human), is playing with an inner carbon ALC blade and D09c on both sides.

Near side has a ZJSALC (yes, super!) with a BOOSTED Z03 forehand rubber.

I’ve used it, it’s quick, and too reactive for me personally.

But everyone has this impression that D09c is slow, or useless away from the table, and somehow Z03 is the answer.

Technique matters. A lot. And you can see from the very short video that even a boosted Z03 on a fast blade can be controllable (my playing partner was pretty consistent considering it was the first time he’d used it!) and D09c can be a weapon from away from the table if needed!

For what it’s worth…. The reason I moved to D09c was to get that safety - Just look at the arc, the ball bounces 50-75% down the other side of the table, and it’s quick ENOUGH.

It’s not a rocket, nor as quick/direct as D05 or Z03 but it’s puts the ball in the table much more….

And yes, this is the only clip I have from the match (he recorded), because who doesn’t want to see a backhand winner down the line to go 2-0 up….. 😂


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How did you just BH so effortlessly? It's unreal!

 

[merlin el mago]

I feel the rubber is bouncy for everything, I just can't get any extra time to play shots that I could play and control comfortably with D05, D09c or any rubber I remember. Tronix ZGR was the last rubber that made me feel like this lol.

Please let me know what blade, the rubber of the other side & total weight of your racket.

Also a video of you playing.

TIA

 

[sebi]

How did you just BH so effortlessly? It's unreal!

Very nice point but i don´t think the technique is clean.
Backhand also needs good hip accelaration if thats given, you can hit shots like that or even better no problem.