China Super League 2014 (CTTSL)

[TableTennisDaily]

Round 10 Men's Schedule 1st July 2014

Ningbo vs Shandong Weiqiao
Shanghai vs Sichuan
Shandong Luneng vs Guangdong
Bayi vs Bazhou Bazhou
Jiangsu vs Tianjin

 

[janus]

Ma long vs Dimitrij Ovtcharov http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/wK1KTzlulN4/
Ma long vs Cui Qinglei http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/-MBKfQ2KVK8

Thanks!!

# Ma Long Vs Ovtcharov Dima [private rec/no sound!]

# Ma Long Vs Cui Qinglei [private recording/no sound!]

 

[TT4Life]

Thanks sir

 

[zjkfanforever]

2014 CTTSL Men's Individual Ranking after Round 9

Rank	Player	Club	Win	Loss	Poits
1	Ma Long	Ningbo	13	3	266
2	Zhang Jike	Shandong Luneng	11	4	247.25
3	Shang Kun	Shanghai	8	9	231.125
4	Yan An	Ningbo	12	5	223
5	Xu Xin	Shanghai	9	4	221.667
6	Fan Zhendong	Bayi	15	3	217.5
7	Ma Lin	Shandong Weiqiao	8	6	207.75
8	Zhang Chao	Jiangsu	11	3	182.125
9	Hao Shuai	Shandong Luneng	9	4	169
10	Wang Hao	Bayi	2	3	167.935
11	Liu Jikang	Guangdong	7	8	162.125
12	Zhou Yu	Bayi	8	5	156.125
13	Cui Qinglei	Jiangsu	5	5	138.542
14	Lin Gaoyuan	Ningbo	6	2	135.868
15	Dimitrij Ovtcharov	Jiangsu	5	4	128.719
16	Xu Chenhao	Bayi	5	2	127.863
17	Chuang Chih-Yuan	Tianjin	3	6	111.3
18	Ma Te	Tianjin	5	6	105.156
19	Fang Bo	Shandong Luneng	6	4	102.908
20	Jiang Tianyi	Shandong Weiqiao	6	2	98.2312
21	Zhai Chao	Bazhou	4	8	97.5
22	Li Ping	Tianjin	7	5	95.5
23	Xu Ruifeng	Sichuan	5	9	90.6597
24	Cheng Jingqi	Bazhou	4	11	90.5
25	Lin Chen	Jiangsu	6	2	90.0521
26	Yin Hang	Guangdong	4	9	86.0257
27	Zheng Peifeng	Sichuan	3	6	84.0271
28	Ren Hao	Shandong Weiqiao	4	7	83.3264
29	Chen Xi	Sichuan	3	4	82.1569
30	Zhu Linfeng	Sichuan	5	10	82
31	Zhao Zihao	Shanghai	2	10	75.75
32	Kong Lingxuan	Tianjin	5	9	70.5
33	Joo Sae Hyuk	Ningbo	2	1	65.8
34	Fan Shengpeng	Bazhou	2	11	65.1389
35	Liu Yanan	Guangdong	2	8	63.1403
36	Liang Jingkun	Bazhou	1	2	59.7333
37	Timo Boll	Shandong Luneng	1	3	46.2222
38	Liu Yi	Shandong Weiqiao	1	3	39.6667
39	Yu Ziyang	Shandong Weiqiao	2	1	38.4417
40	Zhang Yudong	Shandong Weiqiao	1	2	31.4167
41	Lai Jiaxin	Sichuan	0	2	27.309
42	Liu Weiheng	Guangdong	0	3	26.4965
43	Wang Yang	Guangdong	0	4	25.4132
44	Lyu Xiang	Ningbo	1	0	24.9792
45	Wu Hao	Shandong Luneng	1	0	24.9792
46	Chen Zhiyang	Shanghai	0	2	23.1076

 

[bricephan]

I dun quite understand this individual ranking table.. Yan An and Shang Kun have played same number of match, and YA got more win but less point than Shang Kun? Likewise, Fan Zhendong got more win and less loss but still result in less point @@ Those are just few examples at first glance when I saw it. Im pretty sure if I scan more deeply there will be more illogic (in my opinion) here

 

[ping pong ding dong]

so the next game is going to be streamed live her? I'm new here

 

[John18]

I dun quite understand this individual ranking table.. Yan An and Shang Kun have played same number of match, and YA got more win but less point than Shang Kun? Likewise, Fan Zhendong got more win and less loss but still result in less point @@ Those are just few examples at first glance when I saw it. Im pretty sure if I scan more deeply there will be more illogic (in my opinion) here

Yeah, there is a coefficient for each player so a victory can bring back different points for 2 different players. Surely, it's quite unfair...
If someone know the coefficient for the players (men and/or women) and how they are calculated ?
Thanks

 

[zjkfanforever]

so the next game is going to be streamed live her? I'm new here

CTTSL Official Site Shandong Sports Channel will provide live stream for July 1's match between Shandong Luneng vs Guangdong at 20:00.

CTTSL Live Stream:http://2014cttsl.sports.cn/video/v.html

Shandong Sports Channel Live Stream: http://v.iqilu.com/live/typd/

 

[ping pong ding dong]

thank you, lengthening

 

[Dan]

I have a question @Zjkfanforever. Now the top China players such as Ma Long, Xu Xin, Zhang Jike and Fan Zhendong are representing their teams in the China Super League, do they train each day with their teams or head back to the National Training Centre?

What does Liu Guoliang do now during this period? Does he rest or still work hard with his National team players?

 

[Optik]

I dont really understand the ranking system in the chinese league but its nice to know who is on top

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I have a question @Zjkfanforever. Now the top China players such as Ma Long, Xu Xin, Zhang Jike and Fan Zhendong are representing their teams in the China Super League, do they train each day with their teams or head back to the National Training Centre?

What does Liu Guoliang do now during this period? Does he rest or still work hard with his National team players?

CNT players are back at clubs for super league/jia a etc
CNT A players only gather back (together) for "closed" training or world tour preparations (not always)
They are not together all 12 months, to put it that way.

The closed training is around twice a year, around 80 days combined or 3 months
Super league is only 2 to 3 months.
And then international competition is around 3 months (or more)
And other training is the balance of the year.

What is LGL doing now
I actually don't know.

Let me add, CNT B team are together more than CNT A team, as A team as more matches, while B team focus more on development and training

 

[Dan]

CNT players are back at clubs for super league/jia a etc
CNT A players only gather back (together) for "closed" training or world tour preparations (not always)
They are not together all 12 months, to put it that way.

The closed training is around twice a year, around 80 days combined or 3 months
Super league is only 2 to 3 months.
And then international competition is around 3 months (or more)
And other training is the balance of the year.

What is LGL doing now
I actually don't know.

Let me add, CNT B team are together more than CNT A team, as A team as more matches, while B team focus more on development and training

That makes a lot of sense thanks So I guess during this period players can rest a little more and spend bit of time with friends etc. it would be great to get training hall videos from the province teams of the China Super League. In China are you allowed to watch province A teams practice?

I know your not allowed to enter and watch in National Team but province teams would be cool.

 

[John18]

OK, I post here because it seems that there are some "experts" on the CNT .
Anybody has some informations on the recent Xu Xin's coach change (why ? What are the technical differences ? Wu Jingping replaced Qin Zhijian).
I read somewhere that he was unhappy because Qin Zhijian focused more on Ma Long.
Thanks

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

That makes a lot of sense thanks So I guess during this period players can rest a little more and spend bit of time with friends etc. it would be great to get training hall videos from the province teams of the China Super League. In China are you allowed to watch province A teams practice?

I know your not allowed to enter and watch in National Team but province teams would be cool.

Super League is actually not provincial A team.
Super league is more commerical clubs, while provincial teams members are squatted throughout many clubs in different divisions.
So in other words, you get provincial team and then super league team.
ie, the national games will be based on provincial team.

Provincial team training - this is more closed, but of course insiders can take video.
Some times you will find some videos on the internet.

Super league training - more like "warming up"/"keeping fit", some videos also circulate on the video.
Nowadays, its more the players sharing them, than the fans

If you go to the venue early, you can catch players training, but other than that, it is not free entry to watch most trainings - unlike some other team sports like football/soccer

 

[zjkfanforever]

OK, I post here because it seems that there are some "experts" on the CNT .
Anybody has some informations on the recent Xu Xin's coach change (why ? What are the technical differences ? Wu Jingping replaced Qin Zhijian).
I read somewhere that he was unhappy because Qin Zhijian focused more on Ma Long.
Thanks

It's coaching staff's decision, not Xu Xin's, for him to change coach. According to an article published in Table Tennis World, during closed training for Tokyo' WTTTC, the coaching staff also contemplated on the potential line-up for 2016 Rio Olympics, and decided that one elite coach will focus on one elite player only. Hence, Liu Guoliang asked Qin Zhijian, who is the coach for two elite players, i.e. Ma Long and Xu Xin, to give up one among the two. Qin decided to give up Xu Xin. As a result, Xu Xin was assigned to Wu Jingping, who is very experienced in training penholders.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

OK, I post here because it seems that there are some "experts" on the CNT .
Anybody has some informations on the recent Xu Xin's coach change (why ? What are the technical differences ? Wu Jingping replaced Qin Zhijian).
I read somewhere that he was unhappy because Qin Zhijian focused more on Ma Long.
Thanks

Each coach has 2 main players and a few (2 to 4) "extra" players.
Wu Jingping, has had 2 top penholders under his wing for the past decade, until Ma Lin retired. Wang Hao is also coming to the end of his career too.
I don't think it is "unhappy", but a clever move so Wu Jingping can focus more on "the best penholder" in the world now.

 

[zjkfanforever]

That makes a lot of sense thanks So I guess during this period players can rest a little more and spend bit of time with friends etc. it would be great to get training hall videos from the province teams of the China Super League. In China are you allowed to watch province A teams practice?

I know your not allowed to enter and watch in National Team but province teams would be cool.

As suggested by Tony's Table Tennis, national team players will train with their club teammates during super league season, but sometimes their respective national team coaches will go to the super league games to check on them, as it happened with Wu Jingping on Xu Xin, Qin Zhijian on Ma Long, and Xiao Zhan on Zhang Jike recently.

Xiao Zhan at Shandong Luneng Club's home court on July 1.

Xiao Zhan and Zhang Jike on June 24.

Xiao Zhan with Timo Boll on June 24.

Qin Zhijian went to super league to check on Ma Long during Ningbo vs Shandong Luneng's games on June 21.

 

[janus]

PLAYLIST with all existing videos of cttsl-matches till now (period May 17 - June 25)

• https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbdXhTbmweTo2_i6RHx6zxxLLFLkAkqsB

 

[Dan]

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Qin Zhijian went to super league to check on Ma Long during Ningbo vs Shandong Luneng's games on June

Thanks for all the updates guys thats helped me a lot.

Ma Long's coach Qin Zhijian looks so chilled out I saw him at WSA but handnt realised he was coach of Ma Long. Dam! I would love to interview him!