Chinese Trials for World Championships 2017

[Zaid323918]

XX and ML will definitely get a ticket. The last might go to Zhou Qihao. The reason LGL probably doesn't want to chose the younger players is that they aren't very mentally tough. Even though Lin Gaoyuan won his ticket fair and square I don't think he will get very far in the WTTC due to his inexperience of being on the international stage.

 

[Persistence TT]

Guys let's not forget that FB was on top form in wttc 2015 and won against two injured team mates. His overall results are not convincing enough. He

Do you remember when Yan An made a break through in 2012-2013 ? He posed great problems to all big 3 and people were already talking about the next ZJK and how great he is. His career so far is similar to FB's he basically threw the match against wang hao and Im pretty confident that he could beat a choking ML in the semifinal to reach the final.

After that performance he was not so steady, loss to ovtcharov in the world cup, some loses against choppers and he was quickly replaced by zhou yu and FZD in asian competitions then the injury came and he had to start from scratch. My bet is that LGL always relies on consistent results, ZJK of course is an exception to the rule because he always plays good in tight matches.

Almost same scenario with zhou yu, he beat ma long in internal competitions , was given the chance only to be replaced again

 

[rainneverever]

You are right.
ML lost to Chuang Chih-Yuan in the group stage of 2012 World Cup but he did win the World Cup at last, the first big title of his Grand Slam. FYI, ML won all 19 matches for 3:0 that he played in the group stage and knock-out stage of 2012/2014/2016 WTTC team events.
FZD lost to Singapore's Chen Feng and Li Hu in the group stage of team event of 2014 Asian Games. CNT beated Singapores 3:2 at last. FZD has not played in the knock-out stage of WTTC team events yet.

Team events are more important for the CNT coaches and players, simply because CNT cannot afford a loss to another country in the team event. Wu Jingping (XX's former coach) said that XX has not recovered from his loss to JM in the Rio team final. I guess XX should ask ZJK for more advice.

The last non-Chinese player Ma Long lost to was Chuang Chih-Yuan in the group stage of the 2012 World Cup, in October 2012. So, it has been over 4 years since ML lost to a foreign player. This may be a record - does anyone know for sure?

Also impressive is that, to my knowledge, the last time FZD lost to a non-Chinese player was in the 2014 Asian Games in September 2014 (more than 2 years ago), when he was only 17. Please correct me if I am wrong on this.

 

[NextLevel]

I don't think LJK gets a spot. Liu doesn't choose young aspiring players simply because he believes in them. Liang played very well in the super league and got the chance to play in Qatar, it was okayish but not good. In the first round of trials he didn't meet his expectations

Liang played in last WTTC and is still the top 2 in his generation.

 

[rainneverever]

Breaking news: ML has been threatened and personally attacked by Zhou Yu's fangirls over months! It is not clear if Zhou Yu knows anything about it while Zhou Yu and these fangilrs are in the same social media chatting group.

 

[Persistence TT]

The last non-Chinese player Ma Long lost to was Chuang Chih-Yuan in the group stage of the 2012 World Cup, in October 2012. So, it has been over 4 years since ML lost to a foreign player. This may be a record - does anyone know for sure?

Also impressive is that, to my knowledge, the last time FZD lost to a non-Chinese player was in the 2014 Asian Games in September 2014 (more than 2 years ago), when he was only 17. Please correct me if I am wrong on this.

Actually he also lost to koki niwa in april 2012 which is 6-7 months after the world cup and then he lost to lee sang su in may 2012

 

[rainneverever]

Men's World Cup,28 Sep 2012 - 30 Sep 2012, Liverpool

Actually he also lost to koki niwa in april 2012 which is 6-7 months after the world cup and then he lost to lee sang su in may 2012

 

[Persistence TT]

Men's World Cup,28 Sep 2012 - 30 Sep 2012, Liverpool

OOPs yeah my bad

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

His career so far is similar to FB's he basically threw the match against wang hao and Im pretty confident that he could beat a choking ML in the semifinal to reach the final.

Interesting that you feel Yan An threw that match. It's an interesting perspective.

When I watched the 2013 WTTC, I saw Wang Hao exploit a weakness in Yan An's game and break him down. As I watched I realized he would do the same to ML and get to the finals only to lose to ZJK. ZJK was not subject to that particular weakness.

Wang Hao used the same tactics on Yan An in that 2013 WTTC match as he used on ML in 2011 and as he used in the semi-finals in 2013 against ML.

Or, let me rephrase that. That is how I saw it. To me it did not look like Yan An threw the match. It looked like he was weak at something and Wang Hao made him pay. To me it also looked like Wang Hao broke down ML's game before ML fell apart. But it is true he fell apart under the pressure of the tactics Wang Hao employed.


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[NextLevel]

Interesting that you feel Yan An threw that match. It's an interesting perspective.

When I watched the 2013 WTTC, I saw Wang Hao exploit a weakness in Yan An's game and break him down. As I watched I realized he would do the same to ML and get to the finals only to lose to ZJK. Wang Hao used the same tactics on Yan An in that 2013 WTTC match as he used on ML in 2011 and as he used in the semi-finals in 2013 against ML.

Or, let me rephrase that. That is how I saw it. To me it did not look like Yan An threw the match. It looked like he was weak at something and Wang Hao made him pay. To me it also looked like Wang Hao broke down ML's game before ML fell apart. But it is true he fell apart under the pressure of the tactics Wang Hao employed.


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Wang Hao had one of the best backhands in the world. You needed a really good backhand with good backhand footwork and transition to withstand him, which is why only ZJK could do it reliably.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

I guess, one more detail: I don't think that weakness is there for ML anymore. Maybe Wang Hao was the one who could exploit it. But I am not sure it would work on him anymore. He did fix the holes in his technique. And still, back then, the only person who could really do that to ML was Wang Hao.


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[UpSideDownCarl]

Wang Hao had one of the best backhands in the world. You needed a really good backhand with good backhand footwork and transition to withstand him, which is why only ZJK could do it reliably.

Yep. And as he got older, it seemed more and more, he tried to reserve his A game for the tournaments that counted. In the WTTC in 2011 and particularly in 2013 when it looked like he was starting to fade, he really pulled out the stops and pulled out some tactics that he was not showing in Pro Tour tournaments.

Comfortable in BH to BH rallies and waiting for someone like Yan An or ML to turn for the FH so he could exploit the turn and hammer the ball down the line.


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[Persistence TT]

Interesting that you feel Yan An threw that match. It's an interesting perspective.

When I watched the 2013 WTTC, I saw Wang Hao exploit a weakness in Yan An's game and break him down. As I watched I realized he would do the same to ML and get to the finals only to lose to ZJK. ZJK was not subject to that particular weakness.

Wang Hao used the same tactics on Yan An in that 2013 WTTC match as he used on ML in 2011 and as he used in the semi-finals in 2013 against ML.

Or, let me rephrase that. That is how I saw it. To me it did not look like Yan An threw the match. It looked like he was weak at something and Wang Hao made him pay. To me it also looked like Wang Hao broke down ML's game before ML fell apart. But it is true he fell apart under the pressure of the tactics Wang Hao employed.


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Wang hao is definitely a troll master/jedi mind tricks yoda. Yan an was 7-3 up in the 5th! (wh won 11-8) if you watch the full match again he had the initiative and didnt capitalize/made some stupid mistakes. At least I "categorize" them as "stupid" because he was on the driver's seat. WH leveled 7-7 and then the trolling short game came into play....yan an was not patient as in the past 4 sets but who knows maybe WH was such a good psychologist that actually identified yan an's impatience/nervousness and simply gave him balls in awkard placement to force a bad attack/mistake and that is what actually happened

In th 6th my take is that WH felt safer being 3-2 up and played more freely taking the initiative himself instead of letting yan an attack and destroyed the set 11-2.

 

[ttmonster]

Who knows what goes in the mind of a Jedi !! or rather the mind of a Jedi , goes on what , knows who ?

Wang hao is definitely a troll master/jedi mind tricks yoda. Yan an was 7-3 up in the 5th! (wh won 11-8) if you watch the full match again he had the initiative and didnt capitalize/made some stupid mistakes. At least I "categorize" them as "stupid" because he was on the driver's seat. WH leveled 7-7 and then the trolling short game came into play....yan an was not patient as in the past 4 sets but who knows maybe WH was such a good psychologist that actually identified yan an's impatience/nervousness and simply gave him balls in awkard placement to force a bad attack/mistake and that is what actually happened

In th 6th my take is that WH felt safer being 3-2 up and played more freely taking the initiative himself instead of letting yan an attack and destroyed the set 11-2.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Who knows what goes in the mind of a Jedi !! or rather the mind of a Jedi , goes on what , knows who ?

This definitely gave me a good laugh.


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[panany]

i give u 1 information next years Fang bo will play with UMMC club ( russian club )

 

[Suga D]

i give u 1 information next years Fang bo will play with UMMC club ( russian club )

That would be great, if this is true. Would love to see FB playing in the Champions League

 

[panany]

i think they will talk about him soon

 

[panany]

i have talk with fang bo by my friend... he says 1 part of his bad result is because he hate nittaku ball.... no power... big problem for him...

 

[tropical]

i have talk with fang bo by my friend... he says 1 part of his bad result is because he hate nittaku ball.... no power... big problem for him...

What type of ball he likes?