Deciding on equipment from viscaria... please help..

[KenBone]

Hi, it has been a while since I posted anything on this forum. I have been using the viscaria for the past few months now, and although I love it, I do not think that it is helping me learn the strokes as quickly as I wanted to, because of the huge sweet spot. I use viscaria with H3 NEO provincial (boosted) and energy 80 on my backhand; although, this combination is highly sought after, I think that (truthfully), it may be too advanced for a player who would like to develop as quick as possible. By no means am I saying this blade is bad, I just want a blade that can help me improve and develop my strokes instead of it doing most of the work for me.

Could anyone help me in deciding whether the STIGA EBENHOLZ NCT V, is noticeably different than my current setup? I will be using the same rubbers, and applying the same 'Chinese technique'. If maybe you could compare the sweet spot, speed and dwell, that would be extremely helpful. Is it worth the change, or should I just focus on developing with my current setup?

Sorry for the long post.

 

[rokphish]

I vote with stick with it.
Don't boost the H3.

 

[Shifu]

Maybe get a stiga clipper. That's what so many Chinese use with H3 before they go for a faster blade.

 

[KenBone]

Hi, is the ebenholz harder than the viscaria? I am really confused right now, on whether to change or not...

 

[QWERTY Spin]

Do you plan on moving back to the viscaria after a while or do you want a change in general? i dont think switching to ebenholz is worth it for stroke development. its not a safe choice for a easier to play blade. and really expensive. you should try such a blade before changing.

 

[KenBone]

Most likely I will change back to viscaria after my technique has developed, but it depends on how I play with the ebenholz, if I play better with it, i would change.

 

[Paul Hanbyul Yoon]

if u are interested in developing your stroke, get an off- blade like infinity or better yet an osp blade. The feeling you will get will be very good and it will be flexible

 

[QWERTY Spin]

If you want to change back to viscaria after a while i would suggest to go for something slower, a little bit softer but with somewhat similar feeling. Probably something like the offensive classic or infinity vps. Dont take my word on them though. I havent played them extensively. Just for a session. The ebenholz blades are a little bit more unique since the outer ply is not used that often. its fast and expensive. so not really what you are looking for in terms of stroke development.

 

[ttmonster]

Did you consider ZJK ALC ? I mean the most basic and the cheapest of the line up of ZJK blades... I have been using it for some time and it has helped me develop my strokes , it plays almost like Viscaria , but a little less crisp and smaller sweet spot ... it should play will with the rubbers you are using ...

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Yeah, don't get an Ebonholz. It would be a mistake. It wouldn't be much different than getting another Viscaria and expecting it would be a better fit.

One of these blades would be better for you:

1) Tibhar Stratus Power Wood
2) Butterfly Petr Korbel
3) OSP Virtuoso+
4) Nittaku Acoustic
5) Stiga Offensive Classic
6) Nittaku Violin
7) Butterfly Primorac Off-
8) Yasaka Sweden Extra

Any of those blades would help you with developing technique much better than the Ebenholz or the Viscaria.


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[Raylazyfo]

Hi, it has been a while since I posted anything on this forum. I have been using the viscaria for the past few months now, and although I love it, I do not think that it is helping me learn the strokes as quickly as I wanted to, because of the huge sweet spot. I use viscaria with H3 NEO provincial (boosted) and energy 80 on my backhand; although, this combination is highly sought after, I think that (truthfully), it may be too advanced for a player who would like to develop as quick as possible. By no means am I saying this blade is bad, I just want a blade that can help me improve and develop my strokes instead of it doing most of the work for me.

Could anyone help me in deciding whether the STIGA EBENHOLZ NCT V, is noticeably different than my current setup? I will be using the same rubbers, and applying the same 'Chinese technique'. If maybe you could compare the sweet spot, speed and dwell, that would be extremely helpful. Is it worth the change, or should I just focus on developing with my current setup?

Sorry for the long post.

Maybe change to Butterfly Korbel and get Tenergy 80 fx on BH instead
Funny, what you're using right now is almost exactly what Zhang Jike uses

 

[KenBone]

Thank you UpsideDownCarl, Raylazyfo, QWERTY spin, as well as others for taking your time to help me. Could I ask, what is the difference between an EBENHOLZ NCT V and a viscaria? Could someone please tell me if it is harder or if there is any distinguishable difference? Just curious.

 

[KenBone]

Also, I think I'll just stick with the viscaria until I have enough money to buy the Stiga Classic Offensive as many of you suggested

 

[Rajah*]

Hi there. Am not gonna ask any further questions and i also would not recommend an ebenholz nctV coz the feeling will be diffrent coming from a viscaria. However i would also vote like just Carl also suggested, Petr Korbel would be a verygood choice if you really plan to focus on skill executions.

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[Der_Echte]

Ken, you will have to hit with firsthand to know, that is why when at a club, if I see another player has a blade or rubber I never tried, then I ask for a 2 minute hit. TT players are proud to show off their gear, usually agree.

Another route is to slow the blade down, and use a rubber that has a top gear at high impact.

I had often used composite blades OFF or so, then played a little better with an all wood OFF- to OFF blade. When my main blade goes down, I revert to the Nexy LISSOM, an ALL+ blade with Nexy Karis M+ on FH. Both the rubber and blade are strongly in the CONTROL class, but on a big impact, that sucka can really make it fly on a power shot. I get good touch on my middle shots and receive. Keeping that area of your game tighter gets you more points anyway.

Just something to think about... there are many paths in TT.

 

[siestakey]

Thank you UpsideDownCarl, Raylazyfo, QWERTY spin, as well as others for taking your time to help me. Could I ask, what is the difference between an EBENHOLZ NCT V and a viscaria? Could someone please tell me if it is harder or if there is any distinguishable difference? Just curious.

Viscaria has Koto outers + 2 carbon layers , Ebenholz V has Ebony outers + no carbon . Viscaria is 7 ply + Ebenholz is 5 ply !

 

[tropic1]

Ken,
Personally I would stick with the Viscaria and stay with same non-boosted rubber sheets that you will eventually choose while being formally trained.

 

[KenBone]

Thank you for your responses, but now, I would just like to know the difference between Ebenholz NCT V and viscaria in terms of speed, hardness, etc...